BreakDown2014

Great thread! Thank you.

I became a GNR fan around 2006 and Chinese Democracy was the first album I ever bought. Been on GN'R forums since 2007 and those were very interesting times. In 2010 I got to see them live for the first time and it was probably the greatest GN'R show i've ever seen, Axl was incredible (DJ Ashba not so much).

Chinese Democracy still is to this day my favourite GN'R album and one of my favourite albums of all time. A huge thank you to all the musicians and people that made it possible.

It says "New GNR Album Perhaps taking over vegas". It's probably just a mistake.

I love Perhaps but to my ears the overall production is horrible. I thought my speakers and headphones were broken, but apparently I'm not the only one.

¿Your thoughts? Absurd and Hard Skool are compressed af but don't have so many clipping issues imo.

1 minute ago, gunsnchalupas said:

 

Oh My God does have clipping. Also, I assume that the mastering may have been done out-of-house because it was for a soundtrack. I would have to either listen to the End Of Days soundtrack and/or rip a few songs. I don't know enough about how soundtracks are put together, but I assume that there is some basic mastering done to equalize the volume across multiple songs that are recorded separately.

If CD was released in 1999-2001, it would almost certainly suffer from brickwalling. There are some exceptions, but almost every major rock and pop album was mastered that way. We got very lucky that CD was released as dynamically as it was. Which isn't to say the mix is bad, good, or whatever, but at least we can hear it properly. 

There can still be clipping on individual tracks that doesn't show up on the complete waveform. So if people can hear clipping on a specific song but the waveform seems dynamic, it is still possible that one of the instruments or tracks in the song is causing it. That's a bit different though than an entire song getting brickwalled where it is fairly obvious and exhausting to listen to. 

Thank you for your post!  I didn't know the term "clipping" before.

To my ears, Perhaps has some clipping issues, even if the waveform seems dynamic. Happens with the guitars and some vocals. I wonder if it happens to anybody else (maybe my ears are too messed up).

On 9/18/2023 at 5:32 AM, rumandraisin said:

What's the source for this or do you have a quote. If it's from Dave is it possible he misremembered, I always remember reading it was a song Robin bought in, a riff he'd come up with rather when he returned so after late 2000. 4tus then added parts for the chorus. 

So when the album came out in 2008 and you heard it, did you recognize a lot of the stuff you worked on?

"Not a thing, the only thing were the titles, but at that point, I had already been off for 10 years, so I couldn't remember any of the loops. I remember 'I.R.S.', 'Oklahoma'... 'Better.' kind of remember some of that."

That's from the interview. We also have the Three Dollar Pyramid leak which was supposedly recorded in 2001. Don't know if we have any other source to support that the song already existed before that.

6 minutes ago, Gnrcane said:

What time stamp?  I didn't catch that.

3:23

Axl's performance on SOD reminds me a little bit of his singing style during 01' and 02'. Sounds great!!

9 minutes ago, Old_school_gnr_fan said:

It’s not bad. I have no idea what it represents, though. The only thing I can recognize is the roses forming the St. Louis arch. Don’t know what the monster is about.

Maybe it's the Soulmonster 

What does everyone thinks of Perhaps' mixing and mastering?

To my ears it's better than Hardskool and Absurd, but still sounds bad. Chinese Democracy sounds way better. At some points of the song my earphones/speakers always get saturated and Axl's vocals are a bit buried in the mix I think.

I still love it though, but it's a bit frustrating that even after 25 years of production they weren't able to release a proper mix.

Great job by Slash on the solo! Sounds like he cares

Does anyone else still thinks The General might be a (maybe heavily) reworked version of "Strate of Grace"? I do.

Axl sounds great, this song really suits his 2023 voice! And he will probably keep getting better

Robin's bend still gets me every time

I'm glad I learned how to record sound directly from the computer. I'll listen to it on repeat all night. 

The piano at the end sounds amazing. That was SICK

Duff's bass is SICK. Sounds fkn great

HAY HAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Just now, axlsalinger said:

all things considered ... this is a pretty cool idea. perhaps gnr was right. 

hey hey

These are the moment I love the most on GNR forums. After all the "Spotify Theory"  threads and all ther other stuff, this feels like we finally got out from a very long psychiatric treatment. Cheers!

The vocals sound amazing, much better than the demo 

Hope to see it on streaming platforms sometime soon 

Tommy's solo stuff is as good as Going Down or even better. If you liked the song you should definitely check Village Gorilla Head

I't's huge news having Perhaps soundchecked.

Still, I have to say I feel a little bit disappointed that all new music so far are reworked CD era songs, and all of them are songs we already had with full vocals....  

It obviously is better than nothing and I look forward to the day the song gets played live or released on streaming platforms, but it gives mixed feelings... specially considering I love the VIillage Sessions versions of Hardschool, Silkworms and Perhaps.

Erik is a wonderful singer! Nice to hear a GN'R cover, he certainly does it justice