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Time to complete the trilogy Axl

if bach's comments on the song is anything to go by, the general will be something totally different never heard before. His descriptions ain't exactly the most credible.

Nø way, feels like 08 all over again. Obviously this' the final depth of the iceberg

stick it on illusion with 'axl trademark voice' and nobody would bat an eye

Good song, fits in with the catalogue just fine. Best of the 3 so far

1 minute ago, oneway23 said:

You're absolutely right.  Axl's voice hasn't changed in any way over the past twenty-five years.

the quality of the music itself is indifferent, or the justification of it

If everything wasn't spoiled already, you would have no clue as to whether said songs were recorded yesterday or 20 years ago, this isn't something uniquely pertaining to gnr.

22 hours ago, ChrisW said:

No one at Dr. Pepper woke up one day and decided to make an ad about some old band releasing an album.  Either Axl did it himself or (more likely) someone with authority to speak in his name, Geffen or Brazil.  They called Dr. Pepper and they worked out a way to promote an album that was ready to be released.

Best Buy was probably the same thing.  In theory, it might have been a scam, but Geffen (or whoever) wanted to try bringing back some of the money they'd spent and suckered Best Buy, but it was probably a private deal.  'You'll lose a lot of money here but make it up over there.'

And this is why Axl wanted to be in charge, so everyone else has to run around trying to do something for him.  He doesn't need to do anything.  The Chinese Democracy sessions didn't start in 1998, Axl's employees had been bringing in new music since 1994 and he rejected it.  It hadn't become the eventual "Chinese Democracy" album but that is when the sessions started.  Axl just had to keep replacing employees over and over until Geffen finally told him enough, the album was done.

Axl doesn't want to create music, he wants to give orders.  Other people sit around, recording over and over, they have no idea if anything will be done with their work and it's fully owned by Axl's company.  Notice that when Slash talks about working on a new album, he mentions how many songs they have and gives details on pre-production and production, but when he's talking about new G'n'R music, he had no details at all, not even how many tracks there are.  Like everyone else, he's an employee who is not permitted to say anything, and that's why there's no new music.  There's not even any more old music.

Since the news came out, I'd been checking their wikipedia page to see if "Perhaps" had been added to the list of releases, which other bands do.  The page never got changed.  Whoever's in charge is just seeing who will believe there's actually a new song coming out and who will still pay lots of money to hear "It's So Easy, so fuckin easy, It's so easy, so damn easy, It's so easy, so fuckin easy, It's so easy, yeah it's so easy, It's so easy, so fuckin easy..."

unironically very informative post.

Nobody, maybe that's why some are still here.

the world is not ready for these songs, I'm afraid

Leftovers trumps new music anyday, even with subpar performances.

87-93 consensus answer, prolly 91 personally, just the right chemical imbalance.

Congratulations on the release, keep going!

they're alright, is there something going on with copyright issues? Albums keep getting taken down

Pixies - Bossanova (personal fave)

Melvins - Honky

Ditto with the Sabbath album/Never Say Die

Goats Head Soup

FNM - Album Of The Year

Following trends, to me is not the same as naturally evolving within a band, chameleon behaviour right there, that's a desperate act trying to stay relevant, but I guess you can always phrase it to whatever narrative fits the eye of the beholder.

Snake oil salesmen; fake persona, fake image. That right there is the entire operation, if only they could release music.. (ghostwriters anyone?) Being incompetent (with team Brazil) has given them unlimmitted ammo as far as excuses go it shouldn't work in any corporate world, but here it does. 

Your final point I agree with, I just want to rephrase one thing. They got the bag and that magically rendered them unable to create, funny how that works, like Axl speaks in Coma (surely must've been about himself at this point) something about hunger.

one thing to note, I'm talking the entire career here, time is working against them in this case. Yes absolutely a chameleon act if I've ever seen one, time tells the tale.

14 hours ago, Nintari said:

As opposed to a band that knows when to call it quits and stays quit. Or bands who, through no fault of their own, ended in their prime.

I'd rather have five years of genius and nothing else than five years of genius, fifteen years of mediocrity, and fifteen years of embarrassment.

But that's just me.  

Agreed. As time passes this 'band' will only solidify what the illusion tried to keep up for so long, which is that this 'band' is nothing more than a bunch of chameleons, snake oil salesmen at their finest, who knew huh. What you are seeing and coming to terms with is GNR's true, and not its final form. Also no need to try and sell me on the narrative; but but, salsh and mckduff release music..

Aside from the one obvious thing.. It wouldn't be the lack of communication, it has never been more clear what the message is, things happen for a reason, at this point, things should only get worse and linger on like the longest fart. Cat is out the bag, it's a lose lose situation if they decided to release an album with the current lineup, for a lack of better word, it is lacking something oh so needed that seems to have left the band since the closest incarnation of this lineup disbanded. Doing my lil axe impression, he's smart enough to just dance around the truth, and gravy biceps gets filled through touring.

Civil War
14 Years
Yesterdays
Right Next Door To Hell
Get In The Ring
Don't Damn Me
Dead Horse
Pretty Tied Up
Locomotive
You Could Be Mine
Breakdown
The Garden
Estranged
Coma

something like it

Metallica should've stayed dead in the late 90's like GNR, and now they've forgotten how to play what made them relevant in the first place. Truly one of the bands of all time.

not in order and might be forgetting, lastly adding to what have been posted somewhat..

Surfer Rosa

Mr. Bungle

Gluey Porch Treatments

No Mythologies To Follow

Absolutego 

Bucketheadland

Pretty Hate Machine

The Velvet Underground and Nico

In The Court Of The Crimson King

Album - Generic Flipper

Well bba, I haven't listened to GNR in a long time, except when they inevitably are on the radio. They are a bygone phase for me, as is usually the case with most bands, not that, that's a bad thing.

That's what I thought, never change Beattle stans, enjoy the hive I guess.