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2 hours ago, W. Axl Kev said:

Totally agree on the second quote.

I don't follow the first one though. In what world would Axl or his management allow an AI quote on his behalf? I completely agree it looks like the sort of thing a machine would come up with, but the link to the website is now in his Twitter bio. Surely that required some quality control on his behalf?

The only explanations is that either the quote is not AI, or..that he has never actually visited his website to check it out and just added the link to his bio

7 hours ago, Voodoochild said:

Nightrain's outro solo was way shorter, tho. And it's one of my all time favorite Slash's solos, so I think I prefer the AFD even with the fade-out.

A random live performance on a tuesday where Slash was probably drunk, compared to a studio take where he knows this is for eternity, is always going to be different of course, and I think it would have still inspired the same performance if they kept that arrangement. We would have gotten the same song, except longer.

I've said it in the favourite Axl notes thread aswell, but just check out the way Axl ended Nightrain in those 1986 gigs. How badass is that? That last vocal run, when the arrangement they had with the song was ending it with the chorus. Fuck I wish they kept that for AFD..it's so great. The best one is still from the Music Machine 86 gig on Youtube, just perfect. But it's good on this one aswell.

The entire arrangement of that song, from the intro up to the outro was more powerful in my opinion, every other song from AFD was improved, EXCEPT Nightrain. Losing that killer Axl outro alone for a fade-out (which is always annoying) makes the early arrangement better.

They also should have kept the fade-in intro with the train and rain sound effects from the Pasha studios demo (which wasn't on the AFD boxset, for reasons known only to TB).

45 minutes ago, We love Axl Rose said:

I don't think Axl needs any help from AI technology for vocals in the studio. As many have written here, singing in the studio and at shows are completely different things. He can still use a rasp in concerts, from time to time, but in the studio, he has more time to rest, and because of that he can use it constantly. Rock the Rock is the most recent example of Axl being able to use rasp(vocals) in the studio, i hope we will soon hear that song he sang for Michael Schenker and find out if things have changed.

Maybe true, there is no way to know until we hear something, because even Rock The Rock was plenty of years ago now.

Even still, I have to disagree with the other poster, because it would be literally just re-applying the tone of his own voice, to his own voice. He would still have to sing and record it all. That's not a "robot". Using AUTO TUNE is "a robot", where notes are added and adjusted in a robot way, not reminiscent of how the original vocals were recorded and sung into the mic at all, that shit is WAY more "robot" than adding bits rasp back to the vocals that he himself has to record.

And live, that point doesn't make a lot of sense to me, because he ALREADY sings ALL the songs that he recorded back then with his classic tone live with his current voice. So it'll just be the same thing as literally all the other songs.
 

20 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

Exactly. Anybody that thinks otherwise has their head up their arse. 

He could still hypothetically release plenty of music, but it would take an incredible shift in his thinking, workflow and creative process.

Anyway, you're spot on with all of the above. 

Ok this might derail the thread but I gotta get into this: Yes he is right about the creativity aspect, but he's forgetting one major thing, that just started existing within this last year: which is the advancement in AI technology which also influences the "studio magic" that is possible.

With the advancements of AI technology in just this year alone (it's in it's infancy), Axl can pretty much record and sound like he did on Appetite, aslong as he can still hit the notes (which he can, albeit in his clean tone). He didn't lose his range, he just lost the rasp which is really demanding vocally, and of course you can't keep up that singing style for 30+ years. This is the reason why people like Mick Jagger and Steven Tyler still sound so good, they sang more with their natural tone.

But now in a studio setting, he can record with the clean vocals and apply an AI created Axl voice filter on it, which works kind of like a guitar effect pedal (but just on his recorded voice instead) and have him sound like his 1987 self with the rasp completely added onto the vocals by the AI which works by feeding it with soundclips of his isolated studio vocals from AFD/UYI. People are already doing this with other singers, just applying an AI Axl onto the voice and it sometimes already sounds dead on, so when he does it with his own vocals, it'll sound pretty much perfect.

So GNR can release as much music as they want, aslong as Axl actually starts working on it.

31 minutes ago, JimiRose said:

Absolutely nothing. 

This will not mean Axl is going solo. dream on people. 

Someones gotta be paying for this shit, so it's gotta be used for something. No one pays bills and website designers just to do jack shit with it.

There's gotta be an idea behind it when he just doesn't do what everyone else does these days, which is just to use your Instagram. Solo album seems far fetched I agree, and a book is kind of doubtful aswell. So I'm still interested to see what the reason for it to exist is.

37 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Because whoever got the job to make this first draft of the text content is not a hardcore fan and just google for content. 

As sad as this sounds that would be on par for the course of half-ass jobs that GNR world continues to take part in. Literally doing 0 research and putting FAKE quotes of the person whose website you were just paid to launch. Incredible

3 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

I think the quotes are AI generated and whoever added text to the webpage found it and thought it was genuine. Again, the text on the webpage doesn't seem to be in it's final version. 

If you think the quotes are AI generated, how does one of them appear on his official website then? Because it does, but yet no one is aware of that one, even the most hardcore fans.

12 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

I didn't say that quote specifically is fake. But the overall feeling I get when reading the quotes is that they are fake. I actually believe that whoever set up the webpage simply searched for Axl Rose quotes and added one from the page. The text on the webpage looks half finished, just look at the bio page where only Appetite is mentioned. I am sure Axl would have said something about Chinese Democracy, too. 

I agree, but then the question remains where that quote comes from. It now appears on his website, but if no one even on here recognizes it, and we are all hardcore enough to post on a GNR fan forum, that is strange? So maybe it is drawn from a pool of information that is not available yet, comes directly from an official source, like Axl himself, or a book?

1 minute ago, SoulMonster said:

The quotes sound very fake to me. 

One of them is on his official website. So how can it be fake?

4 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Yeah, the "explanations" of the quotes also look AI generated.

Unless it's about Children of the Revolution, as both Slash and Elton are on it

 

But even if it is AI, that quote is now on Axls official website. So it has to be connected somehow, I never heard of it somewhere else, neither does anyone so far?

5 minutes ago, Lio said:

Yeah, but it also says that beyond GNR he also has collaborations with Elton John and Slash. It's nonsense. Surely no one can be that unprofessional. 

Well, just coincidentally, this year outside of GNR we have news of the Children of the Revolution cover coming out soon (which has Elton on it) and the Michael Schenker track with Slash

2 minutes ago, Lio said:

Must be AI, no?

Look at this from the introduction:

 

"releasing albums under his own name" would only make sense if it's either AI or a solo album release is imminent.

3 minutes ago, Rindmelon said:

I don't recognize any of these quotes at all, none of them, where are they pulling these from?

That entire page seems written by someone commissioned, or approved by Axl. I don't recognize these "famous" quotes either lol. Does @Blackstar? If not then I believe this is an official thing written to sell a book or something.

1 minute ago, Voodoochild said:

LOL I didn't notice that. Sorry, I'm an amateur. 

You were still right about the missing quotation mark though lol, so you still have a point

This seems really out of time, it's strange to launch your own website in 2024 when you would have the biggest, and fastest reach possible just using Instagram. Will be interesting to see what this is used for

The entire topic of collecting used bandaids shouldn't even be given a chance to continue on in a new thread and should be banished to satans deepest level of hell

12 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

Hope dies last

Honestly if they have some actual good songs like Oklahoma in the can, and break out some more UYI cuts like Breakdown, Shotgun Blues and The Garden, that would be enough to go on another tour without a new album. I'd go see that. But just going out with Monsters and Atlas seems a bit thin, but they will probably do that if the demand is there ticket wise.

1 hour ago, Free Bird said:

Which isn’t confirmed yet and I hope it’s not.

It was only pulled from CD due to time constraint reasons, so I don't see it not coming out, other than for Slash or Duff saying this is shit to Axl, which they won't do when they even said yes to The General lol.

43 minutes ago, jacdaniel said:

I guess Duff announcing shows later in the year confirms that Guns is done for 2024 at least. 

I wonder will they come back next year? 

Also wonder whether I really want them to if touring and Monster is all they’ve got. 

 

They also have shitty Atlas Shrugged lol

3 minutes ago, ryanf23 said:

They didn’t play YCBM until 1991. There’s never been even a hint that a 86/87 demo recording of YCBM even exists (or that the song was even fully fleshed out by that time)

Yes there was, GNR played a journalist a cassette demo of it in when they were in London in 1987.

Slightly underwhelmed after the first listens. I believe it has nothing to do with the recording, I just prefer Teddys voice on it because I'm used to the Slash's Blues Ball version, his voice just sounds infinitely more badass, it's closer to Rod Jacksons, while Chris delivery comes across more gentle (sort of like Myles vs Axl on GNR songs).

10 hours ago, Uncle Bob said:

"GET THAT GUY OUT OF HERE! That guy right there! Are you listening to me Mr security man? That guy gone, Yeah going.  Hand me that shirt!  Hand me that shirt! thank you..."

He also reached a great note during "SECURITY FUCKHEAD" in the Better performance from France in 2017