-Jaro-

9 minutes ago, UcudBmine said:

Yeah what's up with that, why are áll the elderly outside. Not that I don't respect their YOLO approach, but who opened that can of old people and why aren't they staying inside 

old people are like children - you tell them not to do smth - they will do it just because!

Bavaria in "90% quarantine" (whatever that may be) next 2 weeks 

58 minutes ago, Gracii Guns said:

@SoulMonster just want to say thank you for keeping us all informed and for providing a factual analysis of the data without the media frenzy. 

It's sad that on forum dediacted to retired rock band one can get more infos than in common media...

Just to be clear, I'm not saying this is hoax. Just saying that we got "little babies explenations" and apocalyptic measures - that can't provide good effect  -  not all people will trust it's goverments just because...

And - different countries say cery different things -our Minister of health predicted 2500-3000 total infected (0,075%) and few hundreds deaths, while A.Merkel says 10 mil people in Germany (12.2 %).  And Germany is space shuttle for us in every aspect of being...

Meanwhile - I distanced from my parents (no visiting ), working home etc...

But many people will lose (already did) their jobs - and no clear and transparent reason...

And - hospitals here were shit already - top doctors and large number of nurses already left accross EU...

3 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

This is the reason why the world treats covid-19 differently than seasonal flu.

Don't get me wrong, I am not approving of any specific efforts made by anyone, just pointing out that it is a more serious disease, At least it looks like that now. Personally, I believe the fatality rate will drop quite a lot, and so do many experts, but it would be irresponsible to base a response on beliefs. So in that sense, extraordinary mitigating actions seem prudent.

The hope is that in the end people will say, "Why did we all this, barely anyone died!" Which will be the reason why we did it.

Well, in flu part modeling for unreported cases is used, but in COVID-19 not - so my guess would be - use South Korea stats for COVID since they tested largest numberr (and percenage) of popoulation.

What we get when we compare South Korea COVID numbers and USA Flu numbers?

3 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

A study of 355 who died of Covid-19 in Italy has shown that their average age was 79.5 and that 352 of them had one or more additional diseases/underlying conditions when they got infected. 

Exactly my question yesterday. With life expectancy in Italy 83,4 (81,5 for men) - statisticaly theese people would ill die since they had 1, 2 or 3 health issues...

I'm starting to ask myself - why is world stopped? Why are hundreds of thousands workpalces being destroyed, and why is global economic crysis being created?

Number of registered flu infected this season in Croatia was 38000 (with 42 deaths) - we have 99 corona confirmed (1 suspect death - also man 80+).

All we have from authorities (and media) - wash your hands, keep distance - I think we need some scientifical facts - why are these measures around world needed. If we don't get these - those flatearthers, antiwaxxers and rest of conspiracy theorists will again have fertile ground for their thesis...

From tomorrow, everything but food shops, pharmacies is closed on Croatia too...

Public transport still going... 

Ok, we have some info about deceased in Italy - average is about 80yrs old male with 2 or 3 other health issues...

But is there an info about structure of hospitalized and their severity of illness.. 

Because if you take only no of deaths - one can conclude that world is overreacting and fucking media is only presenting us dead ones...

So EU closes its borders tommorrow?

Did Erdogan hear this? 

And is UK considered as part of EU or not?

My brother arrived few hours ago from Ithaca, NY - immediately went to seaside for isolation - so don't know how he, his wife and two dogs managed that...

12 minutes ago, GNR_RNR said:

The thing is despite what makes sense to the average person big events don't present that much danger to the public, as long as the overall rate of infection i the country is low enough. 

Overall infection rate is not 15 mexicans only, it is 15 of 500 tested... only valid ratio is south korean one... they tested 250000 people or 5000 in million... use their rates and more or less you can project them to the world... no symptoms doesn t mean - no virus or no danger... plain stupid and selfish....

Guns n morons!

5 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

So can someone explain to me again why the band can’t just pull out themselves? Is it just cause they’d have to pay a huge penalty fee out-of-pocket, and they don’t wanna do that?

They could, but then they would lose their few millions of $$, and that's the onky thing that matters...

They can hope they don't end like that moronic NBA player who LoLed on Corona just to be 1st NBA player positive... Also, he is young athlete, and these guys are little older...

This show is evidence for what this band today is - only money... They are prepared to risk their health, health of tens of thousands of people just for another few millions of dollars...

I hope media woild bury them for this...

#blameLovren

1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said:

The reason he has omitted the United Kingdom is because he has applied it to Schengen - irrespective of Brexit the UK had an opt-out. Similar with Eire, Romania, Bulgaria, etc. 

Yep - Croatia is not on list - because of Schengen , and we don't have direct flights as I know so... 

15 minutes ago, action said:

have you seen those videos in that italian hospital, you know where that doctor said something like if you don't believe in the severety just come visit us and see for yourself?

that genuinly creeped me out

I can't believe there's still people calling this "nothing more than a flu"

there is no need to panick, but there is also no need to minimalise this. count on politicians to do that for us.

 

Don't count o  politicians on nothing. Trump just banned "Europe" for travel... but by Europe he didn't include UK - proof that politics are above any reasoning in these guys... 

And he done this when virus is already there, and no contretation to slow (you cannot stop this) down spread, he is thinking about elections and partnership with UK...

Great and emotional video for Ordinary Man

It's safe to say that at this moment almost nothing in world is going as planned...

17 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

Manchester is red. 

Always has been...

And LFC is two wins nearer to title than on Friday!

7 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

Just don't let Andrew Watt near them; I don't want to hear him ruining any VR or GnR songs. 

I might have to get tickets and go for this.

Hope, Trujillo does't sing - his and Kirk's doodles are fun but his singing is just that - funny...

57 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Spunk is safer than any of us,

For a second I was assured that i'm reading wrong thread...

So 0,8% tested has corona, the rest 99,2 %  with reason to be tested are healthy, have common cold or flu...

Of those 0,8% only 2% will statisticky die...

World has to be stopped! Everyone, wear  a safesuit, close yourself in homes and wait till this plague ends!!!

😂

All this is like some global reality show went bad. 

In Australia - priority was toilet paper and people fight for it?

47 minutes ago, action said:

just something that worries me about the graphs. if you look at the ratio of infections / deaths, you'll notice that, while very limited in absolute numbers; it is far higher for the group of 10-19 than the age groups that follows. While the blue bar is very small for 10-19, the brown bar is still as high for 10-19 as it is for 20-29 and so on. that's peculiar.

but granted, I suspect the numbers are too small to make general statements. ultimately, that's the worrying part of all of this.

you answered it. In this graph death rate is precentage which relates to number of cases in that age group. So if there were 1000 cases of infected among people age 10-19 here were 2 deaths. If death rate for 20-29 is same and precentage of cases is double than one related to 10-19 it means that thewre were 2000 infected and if death rate is 0,2% like for those aged 10-19 that measn that of those 2000 for people died...

EDIT: I translated graph in table - since they said around 44000 cases I put 44500

7 minutes ago, Lio said:

In Belgium, any kid has a higher risk from being involved in some road accident than it has from being in serious danger of this virus. 

It's delusional to think you can protect it from all possible threats or dangers. That's life.

Fear won't solve anything and at some point your kid will have to go to school again, or it will be in trouble.

1 hour ago, action said:

there are no experts on the covid-19 virus: there is much we still don't know about it. If they call themselves expert, it's expert on incomplete understanding and huge holes in their knowledge.

it's a bit like calling yourself an expert on black holes: even the experts only know so much about black holes, but the reality is we know very little about them. Same with experts on the covid 19 virus

in the field of health care.

it should be nationalized. but there is no political will.

I don't know where are you from, but I guess you never lived in socialism, or postsocialstism. Trust me - nationalised anything is set to failure.... Our health care is so good you wait 300-500 days for critical medical examination, you have lack of staff (they all went to those shitty capitalistic countries - no-one ever left to Cuba or North Korea), everything is "free" - you must pay insurance but you have nothing to return etc...
If any complicated treatment is needed we rase donation to send sick person to USA/Germany/Austria...

1 minute ago, SoulMonster said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2020/02/29/no-you-do-not-need-face-masks-for-coronavirus-they-might-increase-your-infection-risk/#458aa426676c

Why are you even trying?
Let them be panicked, let them close themselves in caves (we all know it worked in history), let them stock masks, flour, pasta and canned food , let them exclude themselves and their children from society, let them believe their conspiracy theories, let them travel to the edge of the Earth... I just wonder will they believe those untrustworthy scientist when vaccine is discovered or they will protect themselves with masks 

On 27. 02. 2020. at 4:33 PM, Alejandro GNR said:

No rumour about Axl being involved in any kind or shape???

There is new music - so no Axl for sure