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On 8/12/2023 at 11:41 AM, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:
There you go! Justice is served!
Even the worst murders hate anyone who hurts or kills a child. This was a given to happen to this prick.
Some justice, I think for real justice to have been served he’s not breathing. -
44 minutes ago, The Real McCoy said:
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1 hour ago, The Real McCoy said:
Pretenders coming on now.
How were they?
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2 hours ago, Blackstar said:
Also the information didn't get to every corner in the world like it does now. And although many people read music magazines back then, it can't be compared with the number of people websites reach.
I think I had heard about November Rain and that Axl interview (although not the details, e.g. that it was piano driven), but not about Don't Cry or YCBM.
In my head it’s either a Kurt Loder interview or an interview with a magazine I didn’t buy too often possibly RIP…..
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On 8/9/2023 at 2:37 PM, Tom2112 said:
Yeah but we're talking hundreds of people knowing vs millions of people being aware of the Chinese stuff. When November rain came out, the media wasn't "shelved AFD song reworked for UYI". It already is that way for Perhaps
It was definitely known in the media pre album release that the Illusions albums would have some Appetite era material on it. Axl I believe said it to the media, he made a remark about Nov Rain saying something like “it wasn’t ready” for Appetite, I think he also mentioned YCBM & Don’t Cry in that interview also. Don’t forget TV & Music print media reached millions of people back in the days the same as websites do now. (It just took wayyyy fucking longer to get info)-
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13 minutes ago, megaguns1982 said:
They’re still my favourite band. I’m just realistic that the great music they released back then was a fluke.
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3 hours ago, Majestic Beast said:
They all suck they did that,no,in my little world is not normality.Anyway,o connor was in media more for her psych issues rather than her music.
Maybe for you, but there are a few of us appreciated her music and understood her art. If you don’t like someone leave it at that, don’t shit your judgement on a dead person. Sinead wasn’t the first nor will she be the last musician with a delicate soul.-
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14 hours ago, Majestic Beast said:
What is the issue about this part? She had 5 children from 5 different marriages,that's not so normal i think.
Whatever judgement you want to throw on it is up to you.
Brian Jones had 6 kids with 6 women, Mick Jagger has 8 kids with 5 kids women. I could carry on. Normal in your world may not be normal in another world. Is your problem she did the same as a woman?
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Fucking Hell !! Glad he’s ok. I’m going to see them in Oct and have avoided any vids from the tour thus far so wasn’t aware there was talk about Nickos drumming.
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2 hours ago, BillConnor_1982 said:
The difference is, the Stones have decades of music to play from and often switch up setlists if it’s a club show etc. GnR has Appetite and 3 other records
GnR absolutely have the material to pull off a Licks type tour. Do they PLAY the material they have, not so much. GnR have the material to pull of an Acoustic club gig, A Theatre gig with an orchestra and A Stadium gig as a rock band. They have material of that scope. -
On 7/31/2023 at 10:37 AM, Majestic Beast said:
Rip...Never liked her as musician and her music,her mental health issues were difficult to overcome,5 children with 5 different fathers.
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10 hours ago, Blackstar said:
For me rock concerts shouldn't be held in stadiums in the first place. The essence of rock music changed when that started happening in the '70s.
I personally have never really enjoyed a concert in a stadium, pyro or not.
Id agree with you 100% stadiums were designed for sports not for music, rarely does a band sound good in a stadium. When Rock music moved to stadiums it became “a show” and not a musical experience anymore. Stadium shows are events rather than gigs.
I would really love to see GnR do a “Stones/Licks” type tour. The Stones on that tour pulled into a city and did a Club, Arena & Stadium gig in most cities. I’d love to see GnR play a few clubs and get back to the roots of their music, rather than the “show” they’re forced into playing in stadiums. When you have the tunes GnR have, you don’t really need a show. The songs are strong enough on their own.
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On 7/24/2023 at 12:41 PM, Oxford said:
I haven’t seen them since 1993, and before that I’d probably seen them at least 25 times. Probably far more. I used to travel loads back then. So Hyde Park was the first time in 30 years. I’ve seen tons of reviews, watched loads of new shows, and read everything on here, so I was hardly optimistic. But after following the tour on here and seeing them live, I was more than happy. What a great experience I had. Axl was really into it. Slash was, er… Slash and it was epic. Sure Axls voice isn’t what it was, but he was great. And my daughter saw them for the first time at Glasto and she was really really happy. Another lifer there.
You saw GnR 25 times before 1993?!?!?!
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11 hours ago, meadsoap said:
Right now, we have a situation where GN'R is able to consistently fill up stadiums in every continent of the world except one. The arena shows in North America are doing fine, but the stadiums seem to be really very empty. This is a huge contrast from the leg of the tour they just got done with in Europe/Middle East, where they sold out or nearly sold out several stadium level shows despite touring there less than a year before (the show in the Netherlands being the only big exception there). It's also a huge contrast the South America and Asia last year, where they also made a killing.
What do you think the disconnect in NA is compared to the overseas market?
Over saturation and over familiarity?
They’ve toured pretty consistently in NA over the last 20 years or so and
since 1991 at least a third of the current set has been played every night. It’s been 30 years of mostly the same old songs with not much new material released.
There’s too many options for concerts this summer than to (over) spend on one GnR ticket. If it’s an option between a show you’ve seen maybe 4 times in the last 7 years that’s mostly the same again why would you buy that ticket over 2-3 tickets for bands you haven’t seen for the same money.
NA is really only two countries at the end of the day. Both huge countries, but I think GnR have oversaturated both at this point.
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7 hours ago, kiwiguns said:
You clearly don't understand how the live music industry operates.
You clearly didn’t read his post.-
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9 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:
Since when did the background video for HardSkool change? I was looking at a recent performance of it and it’s a video of the school of athens crumbling or something.
That’s kinda funny, considering that the school of athens is also where the UYI artwork comes from.
Unlikely a coincidence knowing Axl.
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There’s a lot of bands touring this summer, and even for the current cheapest GnR ticket I can see 2/3 bands for the same cash. I can see them in clubs and small venues and get a better experience. If I were to go it would be the 4th time since the reunion with mostly the same setlist and it would be the second time I’d seen AIC open for them in those 4 shows. It’s all a bit stale. When I compare that to seeing The BrianJonestown Massacre indoors or Maiden with a great sounding Bruce or a still Interesting and great sounding Pixies. GnR fall down the list pretty quick
Maybe an arena tour might have been a better idea as opposed to a stadium tour. GnR and AIC will shift 18,000 tickets most likely but will they shift 50,000. -
RIP Sinead
Some of us knew what you were and treasured that talent while you lived.
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4 minutes ago, Sausagebrain said:
That some or all of the band would die young.
When you think about how many band members there have been, and some of their recreational activities, it's really remarkable that only GnR member past or present has died (Ole Beich - yes he only played one gig but he still counts, ok?)
And I am glad that the rest of GnR's members have so far lived to tell the tale.
For me this is the miracle of GnR. For Slash, Izzy, Duff & Adler to be still alive is a minor miracle. I was sure when I saw GnR in 92 it would be the only time I would ever see them. Thankfully I was wrong.-
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On 7/24/2023 at 1:50 AM, GoodOlJohnnyK said:There’s nothing more boring than a guitarist who thinks that technical proficiency means greatness.
Not that anyone cares but I received an offer to audition for a major pop act when I was fresh out of college in 2010, (again, this is actually irrelevant because this shouldn’t matter). I was in my early 20s at the time. I can say that, as hard as I practiced for the gig, the hardest part wasn’t the music - it was competing against guitarists who could do absolutely amazing things on guitar and, more importantly, look cool doing it. I was a recent college grad with no money for cool rock star clothing, so I showed up in what I thought would be a decent replacement: some ripped up jeans and a white t-shirt. A lot of the other folks there looked like extras from Sons of Anarchy, while others looked right off of a runway. Some could play circles around me, others I actually thought I was “better” then. But all of the ones who moved on had one thing I didn’t at the time - showmanship. I did my best “rock star” but I fell short.
The purpose of this story is to poke holes in Nuno’s premise that a gig like that requires a level of musicianship unattainable to a good guitarist: that’s not necessarily true. Fortus, for example, could have probably sleepwalked through his Rihanna gig. Showmanship plays a *big* part in it. And those touring guitarists often are amazing because that tends to be who gets invited to and selected for those gigs. You have to have chops. But you often don’t use them.
Nuno Bettencourt can shred up and down the neck at an incredible rate of speed, playing clean, fluid licks with exceptional technique.…
…and no one fucking cares. Because the point is that, until you write something worth a damn, all the fast licks and sweep picking and tapping don’t mean a damn thing.
The press that Nuno is getting for the Rise solo dubbing him the new Eddie Van Halen is so annoying and it seems to have gone to his head. First of all, it’s only guitar-centric media that acts this way. No one outside of hard rock or guitar nerd culture cares.
Second of all, Eddie Van Halen changed guitar playing forever not just through his incredible technical ability but also his sense of melody and songwriting. So many of Eddie’s solos weren’t actually that difficult (think Ain’t Talkin’ Bout Love or Everybody Wants Some) - but damn were they tuneful and memorable! The Rise solo is…impressive, I guess? But the song sucks, so who cares? There are plenty of songs with flashy guitar playing - why has this one been falsely propped up as some sort of spiritual successor to Eruption?
Third of all, these days technical ability is overrated because as good as Nuno Bettencourt or Slash are, there’s always gonna be some dude on Instagram who can play faster, cleaner, and more complex licks, two hand tapping while diving the whammy bar with his dick. So at that point, you have to move on to songwriting chops. Nuno wrote “More Than Words,” which is a classic song that people know and remember. That’s incredible. It’s very hard to do. But Slash wrote Sweet Child O’ Mine, the November Rain solos, Welcome to the Jungle, Paradise City, Nightrain, Brownstone, the guitar melodies and solos on Estranged, the list goes on. In a competition over who is more important to rock history, it’s not even debatable.
And in terms of who could handle the Rihanna gig? Slash would walk in with his top hat and the musical director would fire Nuno Bettencourt before Slash was done plugging in his guitar. Because while Nuno’s busy whipping his hair around, Slash is an icon of rock n’ roll and his *look alone* would nail the gig. There’s no musical style that Nuno performs on those Rihanna songs that Slash couldn’t do - the idea that Slash couldn’t handle switching between reggae and dance pop is particularly absurd - and anything he does that is outside of Slash’s repertoire, like sweep picking, isn’t necessary for the gig.
Nuno’s a dickhead because all of his false modesty (“Slash is a hero of mine!”) doesn’t make sense when the clear premise of what he was saying was “this gig is so fucking tough that even the best guitarists like Slash can’t do it - but I can! I’m more than rock n’ roll, I’m a *real* musician!” Only to walk it back like a little bitch once Fortus disagreed (and disagreed incredibly respectfully).
For him to then knock Fortus makes even less sense. “I’ve never heard of you outside of the Rihanna camp and as a replacement player in Guns N’ Roses.”
Well no one knows Nuno Bettencourt outside of Extreme. And no one under, say 42 knows Nuno Bettencourt at all except for maybe some older shredders working on their skills at your local Guitar Center.
Furthermore, Fortus has played THE EXACT SAME GIG! Before Nuno! The amount of nerve to then turn around and slam the guy who just did your exact gig, and then try to big time him by saying you’ve never heard of him, when Nuno himself hasn’t been relevant since 1991 is staggering.
So on the one hand, he’s talking some bullshit about Slash. Then he tries to walk it back and say he’d never do such a thing and deflects and tries to turn it on Fortus. So he’s talking out of both sides of his mouth and it’s all bullshit.
Sounds like Double Talkin’ Jive to me.
I wish Axl would let this home fuck have it on stage.
I’ve always wondered if some of those “technical” players secretly hate guitarists like Slash or Cobain or Neil Young……You can learn an awful lot on the guitar, but you cannot really be taught what Slash has in his playing. The emotion, the melody, the passion, the phrasing, the tone, and most importantly the ability to put that all into the songs he wrote or co wrote, which there is a lot of.
Nuno may be a great guitar player, but a shitty guitarist who could write great songs killed bands like his (Cobain) It has to hurt when you’ve spent 1000s of hours practicing sweep picking and dick whammy’s and then there’s a guy playing power chords at the top of the charts. Neil Young’s solos are out there, he’s using the feedback, the tone and the whammy, manipulating the guitar and it’s noise, its hit this note now make it scream and howl type soloing. It’s not technical it’s all emotion and vibe. You can learn how to play guitar, but it won’t help you playing the guitar and it won’t mean you can write melodic songs or solos or have a unique style of playing.
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On 7/23/2023 at 2:16 AM, Blackstar said:
“Slash is one of the greatest rock guitar players of all time but I guarantee – and he’d be the first to tell you – that if he jumps up and he’s got to play a clean intro to Rude Boy from Rihanna, it ain’t happening.”
What am I not hearing? This tune he refers to doesn’t contain anything anything a crap guitar player like myself couldn’t do.-
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2 hours ago, Nintari said:
Guitar player whores himself out for money, doesn't like he has whored himself for money, deflects in the hopes of distracting himself and everyone else of the sad fact that he whored himself out for money...
Which guitar player are you referring to
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4 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:
It's limited to a few thousand copies and has artwork that's easier to find for cheaper.... it might be worth $100 if you hold onto it for a decade. Still seems like a rip off to me.
Even the original banned cover isn’t that collectible. -
7 hours ago, Blackstar said:
If it's blues covers and not original material, there's a slight chance of Axl being on it (as it would require for him only to sing and not have to write lyrics/melodies).
There’s a lot of old Blues tunes Axl would sound great on. Imagine Smokestack Lightening with lead vox from Axl!-
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anybody else pissed off by Izzy?
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Izzy seems like the kinda guy who’s entire life was the rock n roll life until he got sober and then it was just the music. He continued to write and release music all through the years. Sobering up changes perspective and maybe the want to write and play music with friends remained but the other aspects of a musical career didn’t seem worth it sober. If he chose sobriety over touring who can begrudge him. Axl may have played a gazillion shows as you say, but he sang songs Izzy wrote at every one of them. To be pissed off with a guy who left a band 31 years ago is a bit mental.