JimiRose

5 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

No, I don't and I explained why I can’t say that for sure. Now you can try to explain why you think he is lazy and not just suffering from insecurity and bipolar disorder. I would very much appreciate some nuanced and reflective thoughts from youy, if you have any. 

Furthermore, I think if Axl was lazy then people who knew him would have made a point about this. I can’t remember anyone who was in a conflict with him, including Slash, Steven, Matt and Duff, ever referring to him as lazy. And they probably would have when the critisized him. They called him crazy and a dictator and much else, but never lazy. That's quite telling. 

Also, Axl goes way beyond on the live shows, a lazy person would do the bare minimum. 

So in short, his lack of productivity is likely mainly caused by other issues than laziness. 

Axl likes live shows coz he loves being a rockstar. sure he likes it when it suits him, but the constant inviting of celebrities backstage, the parties, the demands etc etc. He loves the adulation too, and who could blame him. he doesn't even rehearse for it, so though you say he goes way beyond, actually he's putting in the bare minimum. He doesn't soundcheck, he barely rehearses, he doesnt do any interviews, no meet and greets no advertising or promotion for the shows. he literally flies in on a helicopter 5 minutes before the gig, plays it, then either mingles with celebs or immediately flies off again. 

The hard work is the constant rehearsing the same old shit, the daily interviews to promote in every area, the fan meet and greets, the writing recording promoting new music and going through the treadmill that literally every band does, no matter there size. he doesn't do that. You might argue he doesnt have to. judging by his inconsistent performances, the lack of new music and the dwindling ticket sales, I'd argue he does if he wants to be the best he can be. But he's decided he can get away with not doing that. That is also known as laziness. Of course you will undoubtedly blindly stick up for Axl. but can you name a musician that does less than him? I don't mean retired, or semi active. I mean artists that tour, and also promise new music? 

5 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

I don't know if Axl is lazy or not

You do mate, you do. 

On 4/26/2024 at 4:58 PM, DTV88 said:

How does Axl put out a book that is factual and also doesn’t burn bridges that he has spent so much time and effort rebuilding? I’m sincerely interested in how he would choose his words. Will he temper them to keep peace with the current money making machine that is the three union? Or will he go for broke and lay it all out there like Sorum’s first draft? 

I think you can tell the truth without offending those involved. You dont accuse people of things or judge them for actions, you say 'this is what happened, and this is how it made me feel' - You can't be offended by how someone feels, that's in axls gift. But in reality this will never come out so it's all just speculation

1 hour ago, allwaystired said:

Could this become the new 'new album thread'? 

Years of cyclical speculation, thoughts, views, rumours and no substance arriving whatsoever?

I do hope so! 

Its already been 9 days and not a single update or website change. looks like it's begun

On 4/25/2024 at 7:05 AM, SoulMonster said:

As far as authorized GN'R books and Axl biographies, we have this:

Shattered Illusion that was worked on in the 90s and intended to be released in 1995. The budding conflict between Axl and Slash may have caused this to be cancelled. But at the very least, a manuscript for this book exists somewhere, surely. 

Then in the 2000s, Sebastian Bach would reveal that Axl was working on a book which Axl later clarified was more of a "legal record" of the breakup of the band. Maybe Shattered Illusion morphed into this new book more focused on the collapse of the UYI lineup? Regardless, in 2016, Axl would talk about it being quite likely he would release a book, which sounds more like a biography again, but it was obviously difficult to write about what had happened without opening old wounds:

 

So that's what we have on this matter.

This lost all credibility in the part where bach says axl 'loves putting out albums. 

There are loads of articles like this over the internet from the 09-14 era when I was really closely following the band. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2306273/Guns-N-Roses-frontman-Axl-Rose-looks-far-rock-star-heyday-parties-late--way-ladies.html 

36 minutes ago, Karice said:

 Axl wanting to go date Young Adults who are old enough to be his Granddaughters. For instance, my own Grandmother is only 35 years older than me(Mom and Grandma were Teenaged Mothers). 💡 So, I can't see today's Axl wanting to date some 22 year old young adult who is 40 years younger than him. I'd think the women he'd want to date would be in his decade, like Beta who is only about 6 years older than him.💡

I have been floating around GnR news since 2002, and I can assure you that yes, he wants to be around girls that are 22. He's a guy after all. There have been lots of pics of him with groups of younger girls and supermodels etc over the years. He does try to keep it private, but anyone who has followed Axl for any length of time will have seen these photos, whether here or online in places. Ain't nothing wrong with it, Axl does it behind closed doors, leo di caprio does it in the public eye

2 hours ago, allwaystired said:

There's not really much evidence for that though- there's never any 'kiss and tell" stories or anything or even nany rumours around this stuff. It's a strange existence he seems to lead! 

All the pictures of Axl out at events and in clubs, especially the 09-14 era, he was surrounded by 10 supermodels. The stories of TB and security going into the crowd and picking out girls to go backstage with Axl. The shows where GnR used to pack out the 2/3 front rows with stunning young supermodels. It wasn't richard fortus demanding those girls! The stories of Axl from slash an duffs autobigraphies. There's enough there to join the dots. I think he probably has them sign non disclosures stopping the kiss and tells, but there's no doubt Axl is a hound dog when it comes to sewing his wild oats! 

On 4/23/2024 at 4:54 AM, Scream of the Butterfly said:

So it's acceptable for you to go to his hotel and stick around for an entire day whereas somebody else just driving by his house on a public road is a stalker?

Yeah, the hotel people are the real stalkers. I live in London, so on my trip to LA I did a drive by of axls house. Lovely area, great views of the oceans. But I'd never go hang at the hotel and wait for hours/days. that is too far. I get some people are desperate to meet their idols, but they'll only let you down. No one can live up to what you create in your head. They're just people. and usually in the case of rock n roll, they're not exactly honourable people!

On 4/23/2024 at 2:57 AM, Karice said:

Yep, this is the same man who went into hiding for about 4 years. 💡

Axl loves attention from attractive women aged 18-25, the more the better. He doesn't seem so enamoured when meeting male fans. He's a rockstar, he's too old for drugs and big boozing, so sex is his main thing. If you want to meet axl, just be a female with a great body aged 18-24 and you'll meet him no problem.  

On 4/18/2024 at 7:54 PM, bojan said:

Guns part is around 1:21:40

It's mad he worked on songs, wrote loads and drums on all those instrumental pieces and in 2000, he still didn't know if Axl had written lyrics to any of them or recorded them or what he'd chosen as the ones he wanted to focus on. I don't know if that speaks more about the hired musicians aka NUGNR, not really giving a shit, or axl being so insular.

He mentions specifically axl was open to any and all ideas no matter who had written them, which in any functioning band, is a great thing. But then also two years later he didnt know if axl had even chosen to record vocals to them. When I write a song, I am involved in it's development at every stage, surely he'd ask Axl? Someone here didn't give a shit, I just can't work out who!

13 hours ago, megaguns1982 said:

I mean, I’m 42 now and cringe when I think about some shit I did 20 years ago. Best forgotten… lol

I bet 20 year old you would also cringe at 42 year old you too  Best to just accept we are all different at different stages of life and to accept the different choices we made. Sometimes you gotta do the stupid things to be able to look back and acknowledge it was stupid. I think it probably took Axl a LOT longer than most to come to these terms but he's probably there today. 

15 hours ago, Ratam said:

I think if Axl write now his autobiography and relate "his" true he would put in risk  his  relationship with Slash again. Just my feel

Tbh would it matter if they split? they've been reunited 8 years and probably played the biggest longest reunion tour of any big band reunion in history. We've all seen the shows, multiple times, they've played pretty much everything they can. There's been some great shows, but steadily they have been getting worse. The stage show is now non existent. If the GnR reunion was a tv series, it would be cancelled now after 8 season with all story arcs told.

They haven't written any NEW music as a band, so it's unlikely to expect anything now. I'd rather get the full Axl breakdown on everything that happened between 85-2015 without censor than see a declining similar show. Obv new album trumps all, but not going to happen

46 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

 No one pays bills and website designers just to do jack shit with it.

Axl has literally spent hundreds of thousands doing this exact thing with domain names, urls, rights and done nothing with them. And of course most famously - music. It's just who he is. he has more money than our wildest dreams, he probably gets ideas, spends money on them and then just doesnt care or forgets. he's been doing that for about 28 years now

On 4/17/2024 at 7:42 PM, StrangerInThisTown said:

This seems really out of time, it's strange to launch your own website in 2024 when you would have the biggest, and fastest reach possible just using Instagram. Will be interesting to see what this is used for

Absolutely nothing. 

This will not mean Axl is going solo. dream on people. 

Has anyone managed to isolate the different vocals yet for monsters in the verses? There appears to be 4 vocal lines - the main vocal being sung, an extremely high pitch delayed version of the vocal line, the ooh oohs, and then axl seems to be saying something different in his deep devil voice under the vocal line which can't be made out. He has form for this on CD in the hidden tracks, so just wandered if anyone has been able to separate the vocal lines with your AI music tech I'm sure some of you have. 

Still can't believe this isn't called soul monster. Such a better title. as was elvis presley and the monster of soul. even leave me alone. urghhhh this only happens when you wait 21 years to release it. 

10 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

In case there was any doubt:

Original instagram post: https://www.instagram.com/p/C5VV5yTs8o3/

 

Seems like the first 'fresh' recording since the reunion is in fact a cover, is Axl/Slash/Duff and Zak (Ringo Starr's son), and may be released soon.

They cut this cover for sick kids SEVEN YEARS AGO and Axl is still mixing the track? Words fail me. 

13 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

I really don't know how some people can't grasp this.

Yes, GNR is a better band and was more 'hard rock' whereas Motley was more 'glam'. But they definitely share a large group of casual fans and the general public still lumps them into the same '80s sunset strip rock' category.

I don't know if people are playing dumb or are that dumb. GnR and Motley are similar bands in the same genre. Obviously they are not identical, as you say GnR were more hard rock but to most they are the same style of band. So weird that people are butthurt about that truth. Doesnt mean you have to like Motley as much as GnR guys! 

22 hours ago, Free Bird said:

But it’s not only the name. To me there’s a difference in styles between GNR and Mötley.

To you yes, but not to 99% of public. Both came out of sunset strip in the 80s, both play hard rock, both have singers that can't sing anymore, both have members of crossover fame (slash and tommy lee) the bands are basically the same set up 2 guitar bass drum vocal. Obviously to those of us who can pick different subgenres within genres, they have different sounds, but they both fall under 'rock' or 'classic rock' the same way van halen sound nothing like GnR but come from same area and play the same genre, so of course they are lumped in together. Metallica and GnR toured because people think they're basically the same and they are literally different genres whereas GnR and Motley arent. 

Today you'll see a classic rock playlist contain nirvana (grunge) metallica (metal) Acdc, rolling stones, the doors, gnr motley etc. You can argue the two that sound most alike out of those are gnr and motley. Today people only care about names. Names equal $$$$££££ and thats all they care about. 

14 hours ago, allwaystired said:

What happened to that fist fight that was going to happen? @JimiRose, do you remember? 

I'm keen to see it. This summer hopefully? 

I can't remember who that was with, I think we came to an amicable agreement, but hell it'd give me something to train for, gym motivation is always tough!

11 hours ago, vloors said:

To me Motley is really a bad fit and the reason is the well known vocal issues Vince has plus no mick mars (the only talented one live lol)

I can only imagine the media and backlash of a overpriced stadium tour with 2 struggling singers.

I agree that vince sounds horrific and is a walking meme and that the dismissal of mick mars was a disgrace. But I don't think it makes them a bad fit for a tour. In the modern world people don't seem to care if people suck, as long as they can tell their friends they were there.

When the general public watched GnR at Glasto, everyone said they were a disaster, axl was unlistenable and they embarrassed the festival. And on here we were saying 'wow not bad actually, good show GnR' - Motley are the same. Objectively, like GnR, they now suck live. But most GnR fans are motley fans and vice versa, so they're just going to sing along and have a good time anyway. they'll sell it as the bad boys of 80s hollywood out on a tour no one said could happen blah blah and the public will lap it up. Even though the shows will be as safe as a taylor swift gig. 

3 hours ago, vloors said:

Would be good to through a classic hiphop band in there. Say wutang for example. 

Wu tang, cypress hill, public enemy, ICE T or ICE Cube would all be great fits and add something to the line up and show. However i dont think it would add much to ticket sales. It'd still be a majority older white crowd who would like this. A young black hip hop fan isn't going to go and check out gnr for $200.

I understand the argument people saying that motley sell to the same crowd, but when you have seen gnr already, it gives you more bang for your buck. So i don;t think you really need a crossover audience, you just need to give more incentive to your existing audience to turn up. Any big band that are slightly lesser than GnR in the standings would be great. When i saw GnR at Hyde park in 2023, a big sell was the darkness and the pretenders being on the bill. Ive seen GnR 17 times since 06. and axl is getting worse each time, so if you aren't giving me a brand new album played in full, you have to give me 1/2 other really big live acts to make it a must see. 

On 3/28/2024 at 1:52 PM, Giblet said:

This kid plays more than Motley Crue do live...
 

 

Axl was such a beast vocally then. miss these days.

On 3/28/2024 at 2:46 PM, chester said:

I’m disturbed some would be OK with this…Guns n Roses and Motley Cru may be contemporaries and some members might be friends… But musically and everything the bands stand for and represent are radically different, at least to my taste and sensibilities. 

To the superfan of either band perhaps, and to those at the time in the late 80s when they were very different. But in general they will always be lumped together as the same style of music, from the same scene playing the saame instruments with the same fanbases. Motleys first 2/3 albums were much more punky than their hair metal type sound later on, they definitely have credibility as a top rock band. They're just absolute sellouts as people and dreadful cheats when it comes to playing live. But the show is probably more visually entertaining than gnr. I can see this tour happening in the future.