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Is there any news on ticket prices for the London show? Can’t seem to find this anywhere

Without Slash there would not be a guns n roses, well there would but it would have been another unknown band from that era that no one has ever heard of 

Like a few others, Welcome to the Jungle on GTA. Was probably around 10 or 11 at the time, just thought it was the best thing I ever heard. After that I started paying more attention to them after that and quickly became a fan of SCOM, Paradise City, November Rain etc

It was years after that I actually bought an album though.. first time listening to AFD just blew me away, any music I liked before that just went out the window 

I sympathise with the managers of the site if there are legal issues due to people sharing links etc but seems like a sure fire way to kill off the forum if you decide to block half of it off to more casual users. It seems like a few just want a private discussion board for themselves, to that I’d say just make a private group on Facebook or WhatsApp and just invite the people you want.

Can’t wait to hear the final version on an album one day

7 minutes ago, Jordan Rose said:

After bullishly insisting that Sorry was in large part about Slash and old band I now agree with @russtcb that SoD is about Slash hence never even on NITL setlist. Blues sounds like it's about a woman but read the lyrics, don't have to be romantic, could easily be about Slash. Especially the last verse.

And the 'shut up and sing' part of Sorry I always thought referenced the story of Duff or Slash in the studio telling Ax to shut up and sing but fans also shouted that during Illusion rants. 

I thought Sorry was about the media and critics in general 

i can’t say I’ve listened to that song enough times to really analyse though. It’s pretty mediocre throughout and those bizarre vocals “but I don’t want to do it” just make me want to press Next

The recent leaked version of The Blues has absolutely ruined the album version called Street of Dreams for me, I can barely listen to it anymore.

I think the song is rumoured to be about Slash which might be the reason

12 hours ago, SonofaGun said:

Wow. Listening to my favorite song -The Blues on CD Mix 1......incredible. The guitar sounds more free!

It’s a shame they re-worked it on the album, the final version is pretty bland and mediocre compared to the Blues demo, which would have been a highlight of the album had they kept it how it was, that mini guitar riff part just elevates the whole song

3 hours ago, DTV88 said:

I remember feeling absolutely gutted that my favorite band was completely unrecognizable. From the unknown (at the time) band to the Mickey Mouse vocals, it was just horrid. That said. I do want to see the full rehearsal just out of curiosity. Not sure I'd actually watch more than a couple times 

I wasn’t old enough to be into GNR at that point but can totally imagine 90% of people watching it thinking wtf is going on?

For all of Bucketheads apparent brilliance, he was a poor look for Guns as it made the band look like a complete freak show. Add in the odd “fashion” style choice of axl and then terrible vocals and no wonder the performance got panned and ticket sales were crap

On 27/09/2019 at 10:00 PM, GNRmello77 said:

Cause it gas everything man, great piano, great lyrics, great guitar solo's, great vocal delivery lots of emotions and an awesome music video! It's the ultimate song! Where many Praise November Rain as a masterpiece amongst the masses I think Estranged is the masterpiece for the real fans. 

I’ve never really understood why November Rain is viewed as some sort of classic to the wider public but Estranged is completely unknown

For me Estranged is the ultimate UYI song, perfect combination of Axl and Slash

What are the chance the leakers have changed course and have decided to try to get some cash for the final disc mix 2 rather than getting it out to the fans?  

I think it would be great if they released an EP with an A side of 5 or 6 new songs written brand new, and a B side or disc 2 with 5 or 6 leftovers from the Chinese democracy sessions in their current format without Slash re-recording; Atlas, Perhaps, Hard School, I assume a couple of others must exist too. 

Provides a way to get the CD era stuff out, fans are happy with new music up but they only have to worry about writing and recording 5 new songs 

i have a feeling a full album would never live up to AFD or UYI so an EP is maybe less pressure 

29 minutes ago, sl4yer said:

I listen to Hard School everyday since it leaked. Like I really love this song. But I see that some people just can’t handle different opinions...

Hard school isn’t an instrumental so doesn’t really relate to my post.

and for the record I think there is a big cognitive bias to these demo songs because they are new and previously unheard. I’ve had Atlas and Perhaps on repeat every day since I heard them but in 6 or 12 months will I prefer these songs over Appetite.. maybe or maybe not. It might be in a years time if still listening to Perhaps then I’d consider it one of my top 5 but at the moment I’d need to wait until the excitement wears off and the dust settles before any of these new songs can genuinely be placed as a top song.

@SoulMonster it looks like rough mix 1 was an initial draft of what Chinese could be. I would agree mix 1 and mix 2 were probably drafts of separate albums with the other songs to be added on to album 1 or 2 (as the run time of each isn’t that long) either as a “b” list / filler so to speak or songs which require further work (eg writing lyrics)

If there was an ultra rare song rehearsed then yes that’d be great to hear, but otherwise it’s a big “meh” from me 

Sorry but I have to question how anyone can put any of those unfinished instrumental demos in their top 5 songs? 

I mean what have you been listening to all these years if you are apparently a guns n roses fan but don’t like the classic songs off appetite and Illusion as much as unreleased demos with no lyrics? Blimey.

Absolutely bizarre but each to their own I suppose.

1) Paradise City

2) Welcome to the Jungle

3) Estranged

4) It’s So Easy

5) Sweet Child O Mine

 There are many songs which could be 5th place; Mr Brownstone, Sweet Child O Mine, Coma, Better. I went for SCOM because it’s a classic and the most well known but it’s a tough choice. I’d say the top 4 stand head and shoulders above the rest for me 

Whoever he is, he must be bad.

Devious bastard I also like along with Dummy would be great if we ever got completed versions with lyrics

Oklahoma must have a version with vocals completed at some point and oh my fucking god I want to hear it

Billionaire is interesting... wouldn’t sound out of place in a night club. Not really a rock song at all

Full disc 3 has leaked

Chinese democracy (leaked - double guitar)

Better 2008

The Blues (rough mix 1)

Perhaps (rough mix 1)

There was A Time 2008

Atlas (rough mix 1)

Catcher (Brian May)

IRS (possibly an earlier version - unsure)

Hard School

Riad (rough mix 1)

Madagascar (leaked)

TIL 2008

Prostitute 2008

57 minutes ago, Towelie said:

Better and Shacklers are two of the best uptempos on the album. There's only two real uptempos on the Rough Mixes CD, otherwise it's one midtempo after another.

The album needed some variation in pace and BPM. That's what the 2008 album gave us and I'm thankful for that. 

Shacklers for me is just an odd song although I understand your point about being up tempo as there are a lot of mid and slow songs on the album. I still don’t like it though - especially the guitar solo.

How any one would want to dump Better though? That’s the best song on the album

47 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Oh yeah good point! I forgot about that!

Hardschool has to be at least, since it isn’t listed anywhere else.

The 10 second “checkmate” clip as it was called then of the first line or 2 of vocals was floating around for years so it’s possible someone has a different version separate to these discs