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You could or couldn’t care less?

20 hours ago, LikeADog93 said:

“Well, thanks to the lame ass security, I’m going home!” Iconic quote. 

I’ve been escorted out of several bars while saying this in my younger days 

1 hour ago, allwaystired said:

Are people actually arguing that the US shows are/will sell well? 

There is actually factual evidence that shows they aren't, and weren't long before Covid. To argue that they are simply isn't true. 

The bare bones of it are that the venues are too big and the band have toured the same show for too long. 

Why they were booked is anyone's guess, but anyone can look at the ticket sales sites and see for themselves how things are looking. 

Buy tickets and go see it or don’t. Who gives a shit?

2 hours ago, kever20 said:

I don't dislike it.

Funny story: on Pandora yesterday, Scraped popped up randomly, but the app had it listed as Rhiad. I've never seen a mistake like that on Pandora.

 

I feel like this would only happen to a song on this album

It’s not great and it’s part of what made CD so confounding. We waited umpteen years for this?

2 hours ago, ZoSoRose said:

I just don't care about GNR anymore. I'd go to a show to hear the songs and have a night out like any other casual. They're pushing 60 at this point and are just nostalgia dinosaurs 🦕 🦖

And you’re here for what?

I seem to remember seeing a very brief clip of this somewhere. Axl was giving it to someone over the sound and seemed in a foul mood.

I’ve also heard the rehearsal was better than the actual performance. Axl got out of breath real quick during the performance.

On 5/4/2021 at 1:35 PM, ThePreacher said:

"People wont go to the record stores cause they wanna travel now"

What’s a record store?

He was Slash’s security guard for years. Supposedly he looked a lot like Slash. He is mentioned in the book and Slash eventually had to fire him. He mentions something about how Ronnie crashed one of his cars and he was taking a few too many liberties with his job, something along those lines

16 minutes ago, Sausagebrain said:

It's an odd thing for his label boss to say. Having spent millions of dollars in to the project, you'd think that he would want it to be a commercial success. 

 

Wouldn't he?

Unless he wanted it to tank and force a reunion. The music business is swimming with sharks 

33 minutes ago, Rovim said:

was Iovine really wrong? Axl never found a guitarist that could fill Slash's shoes cause Gn'R is the kind of band that every member brought something unique to and Slash was one of the main contributors.

No one plays like him which I believe was the main problem for new Gn'R. Bucket was worthy but people didn't embrace him in Gn'R it seems. in the end Chinese came out and Slash/Duff came back. Apart it didn't work for any of them. Most of the released Chinese material could have been played by Slash in 1999 when Robin left cause I think as a commercial entity new Gn'R was destined to fail cause it was never just about Axl for most fans.

I don’t think Iovine is wrong. But it does give you an interesting perspective on the relationship with the record company. Not only were they not really behind Axl but are doing things that seem designed to sabotage this project 

7 hours ago, MCollins said:

I don't think management could give any less of a fu** than if this forum changed its name to mytaylorswiftforum.com and we started discussing her hair everyday. 

Why would they?

Imagine this scenario.....it’s 1999. Axl Rose and what’s now called GNR have been holed up in the studio for several years working on their highly anticipated next album. Millions of dollars have been spent but supposedly, it’s almost finished. Axl hasn’t done press in years, but on this night a journalist from Rolling Stone is coming to do an interview, listen to the album and inevitably tell the world about what he heard. The head of the record company (Jimmy Irvine) just happens to be there to greet said journalist and says to him “Just remember, it’s not really Guns N Roses without Slash.” 🤔

WTF? And yet we wonder why CD took so long to get released. We wonder why Axl was paralyzed by fear of the reaction. We wonder why he didn’t feel like his business partner (Interscope) never had his back with this project.

8 hours ago, Italian girl said:

September?? It has become a joke 

Especially considering that a large portion of the potential audience already read it 

5 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

I need to get a job like that

You have to move to Arizona and become a kook charlatan.

44 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said:

I know. What a goofball idea. That idea alone shows fucked up Doug is 

It’s a goofball idea and then you hear the execution. “We’ll approach Metallica to headline the first night” So the first night headliner will be twice as popular as the namesake band of the festival in 2010? Also, I have a feeling Metallica would have gone nowhere near a Doug Goldstein production.

I also thought this idea revealed a lot about Axl though. Doug did know him well and came up with a grand idea for Axl to make money in the music business doing nothing. If you think about that, the CD delays, late show starts, and general inactivity make perfect sense. Axl didn’t really want to be doing any of this shit.

18 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Bon Jovi did that last year. Just cancel them and get people their money back at this stage. 

Problem is that the Ticketmasters and Live Nations are using that money to stay afloat

4 hours ago, Beto 22 said:

Having nothing against them it's fair to say they were the Greta Van Fleet of the early 2000's

I think the Strokes were way better and less derivative than that. Great Van Fleet just seems silly to me

I know the Strokes aren’t everyone’s cup of tea but I did and still do think they’re great. Probably the last time I was that excited about a new band. Yeah, I’m old

4 hours ago, StayofExecution2020 said:

I blame your lack of education.

Is that really SO outrageous? China is where this started and as a result of poor sanitary and food handling conditions 

2 hours ago, jonah said:

My theory has always been the reunion happened because Axl saw his cheque book going down as the only shows they could book in the US was the UCAP shows and a Vegas residency. As no promoter wanted to take the chance and book a real tour when their ticket sales kept declining. 

This is the biggest reason, they couldn’t even get booked in an arena in the US 

On 10/30/2020 at 8:02 PM, Ant said:

he likes to get the daily news

Love the reference

4 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Oh, I see. So maybe it was recorded August 31 but aired a few days later, before the VMAs.

Yes, it was recorded earlier. MTV had a tradition for awhile in the 90’s showing big name interviews before the VMAs. Smashing Pumpkins did one at the height of their popularity talking about firing their drummer for drugs.

20 hours ago, Blackstar said:

The Axl interview was on August 31, though, so it must have been first aired a few days before the VMAs, right?

Yes, at first the rumour was that he had quit:

https://www.a-4-d.com/t4141-1990-07-30-metal-hammer-adler-quits-guns

He was going to play with Andy McCoy of Hanoi Rocks.

The Axl interview was aired right before the VMAs but it wasn’t presented as being a live interview.

On 8/1/2020 at 4:23 PM, 31illusions said:

Seems correct. As I recall watching it. It was before the VMA awards.

Yes, it came on right before the VMAs in 1990 and it was the first time the public was told Steven was fired. MTV News has stated a month or so before that he had quit the band.