Its Tino

It’s still possible we won’t be hearing it until November. 

The vinyl hits the truck the 27th. It’s not going to be on our doorsteps on the 27th.

But I do feel good about it being released to streaming services on the ship date. 

4 minutes ago, DTV88 said:

Terrible lyrics wherever they’re from 

Beck. I didn’t know them. I googled. 

56 minutes ago, colonizedmind said:

"I saw her, yeah I saw her with her hands tied back
And her rags were burning
Crawling out from a landfilled life
Scrawlin her name upon the ceiling
Throw a coin in a fountain of dust
White noise, her ears are ringing
Got a ticket for a midnight hanging
Throw a bullet from a freight train leaving
And I know I'm gonna steal her eye
She doesn't even know what's wrong
And I know I'm gonna make her die
Take her where her soul belongs
And I know I'm gonna steal her eye
Nothing that I would not try"

How is this relevant?

I’m 37. Became a fan of GNR in 1990 at 4 years old. I had a very cool young Aunt . She gave me her AFD cassette (along with Ride the Lightning and Killing is My Business… And Business is Good). 

WTTJ was my early favorite. Then, like @ZoSoRose I noticed the SCOM solo. I can’t believe I can still hear cause for many years, I blasted that solo at full volume with cheap headphones plugged into my boom box.

I was not on any forums during NuGuns. I saw the VMA performance and loved the idea of Madagascar. Got pretty hooked into the song. At that time I was big into skateboarding and hell raising so I spent zero time in front of a computer so I let it go. “An album would surely be out soon.” 
 

I heard no leaks. The first time I heard about CD being released was 2010! So I immediately pirated it. It sucked. 

The following year I had a new coworker who loved music. GNR came up, then CD came up. He begged me to give it a few more full listens. So I did. And it was magically awesome somehow! I couldn’t believe I went from hating it to loving it. I primarily listened to only CD for probably 6 months. 

I will ALWAYS and FOREVER consider it as an Axl solo record tho and I refuse to rank it against any Guns album prior.

There’s been a lot of talk lately on how Slash’s solos are subpar on the Chinese material and his solo material. That his solos have been garbage since X or Y. They’ve taken over unrelated threads so I figured I’d start one. 
 

My main question is, are there  contemporary guitar players, in his genre, that are belting out epic guitar solos in the recent years?

I’m not here to defend Slash. I’m genuinely curious because I really only circulate very few rock bands in my listening pattern. Lately it’s been basically just the Deftones and guitar solos aren’t present in their work. 

Honestly his solo spot from Japan 92. It was the first video that was widely available in the early 2000s. I downloaded it from Kazaa and have watched it dozens of times. 

2 hours ago, Arnuld said:

Is the song this week? Are people calling the Juke Box companies, Radio stations, train stations, bus stations, the airlines, studios, speaker manufacturers, record stores, (there have to be at least 5 left), Geffen Records, interscope records, and the personal line of Jimmy Iovine?! Cmon we must know when the General is going to drop! 
 

The problem is the band has released so little in the past 30 years it has whittled the psycho fan base down to almost nothing. I went to a Pearl Jam concert last week. Now that band has a psycho fan base. They had an entire arena singing along to deep cuts. 

Isn’t it an amazing experience?! My first PJ show I was essentially in awe for most of it. 

1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

That probably was a far more limited offer. I get your point, but my point is that live releases for 9/10 fail to do anything these days... it would be more worthwhile than more toy trucks though

I understand. It’ll be a shame if the last live release is Appetite for Democracy. 

11 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

I think there's a good shot of getting a professionally mixed live release of all the years. I don't know that there's a great demand for live releases though outside of the more committed fans

Is there a great demand for GNR toy trucks? 

The radio stations are going to have to play it off a vinyl record then right?
 

3 minutes ago, DoMw94 said:

The only way it's not a fair comparison is because there's no way on earth The General will be a vinyl exclusive 😂 Whereas we know the two live tracks already are.

If anything, it highlights how moronic the 'vinyl only' theory is. Of course throwaway live tracks will be. An unrealeased studio take from a band that operates like this absolutely won't be.

And are they out there? I've looked, and haven't found them. (I care – love any sort of live material)

Just now, Its Tino said:

4 minutes ago, DoMw94 said:

The only way it's not a fair comparison is because there's no way on earth The General will be a vinyl exclusive 😂 Whereas we know the two live tracks already are.

If anything, it highlights how moronic the 'vinyl only' theory is. Of course throwaway live tracks will be. An unrealeased studio take from a band that operates like this absolutely won't be.

And are they out there? I've looked, and haven't found them. (I care – love any sort of live material)

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I’m sure it is. Just need to ask the right person. 

31 minutes ago, DoMw94 said:

Everyone saying how it'll definitely be ripped if it's a vinyl exclusive (which it won't be, but anyway), why haven't the Absurd and Shaddow of your Love live exlusives been ripped and surfaced online?

Not exactly fair comparisons 

They’re out there, I just don’t think anyone cares. 

I think they’re releasing this because “why not”. 

If you bought a toy truck or a laundry bag, you’d buy that too.

Oh my there’s some anger 

7 hours ago, Sweersa said:

I'm not even sure if a better mix and master will help 2021 Hard Skool. My guess is they didn't make any changes to it. The whole song would need to be rearranged or restored to a previous version prior to NITL, with their additions more carefully brought into it, if at all. Terrible drums, dumb cowbell, mostly uninspired Slash guitars, etc. At least Absurd had the framework of Silkworms and fairly fitting new guitars, though poorly mixed and mastered.

I hope future re-worked CD-era material is treated more like Perhaps was, or better yet, not touched at all by NITL members.

Maybe it has Robin and Bucket pats intact 

23 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

Interesting. I swear I heard them do The General intro once live, but my first Guns show was November 15, 2011 so maybe it was just me not remembering. I liked the Dexter intro as well.

I was on Nov 19 and the Dexter intro got a great reaction from the crowd!

1 hour ago, Sweersa said:

They used The General intro for the 2011 shows, right? I swear I heard it in Chicago. Then in 2012 I think it was Dexter. Or maybe I have it backwards...

I saw them November 2011 and it was the Dexter intro. 

I think The General is that intro for 3 min, then cuts into Scraped, taking over the Axl scream intro. 

On 9/11/2023 at 6:08 PM, DoMw94 said:

I reckon you could settle the Slash v Buckethead debate by looking at Lars Ulrich (bear with me)...

It's pretty apparent that Lars isn't one of the best drummers ever, yet if you put anyone else in Metallica, it wouldn't sound right. He doesn't need to be the most technical, he needs to be the best fit.

Technically speaking, Buckethead might be a better guitar player than Slash, but Slash is the better fit for Guns N' Roses.

Who is better is, of course, subjective anyway, but in cases like this it isn't important. Being better doesn't mean that person isn't more suitable. You see it in Football too – you can sign the best player in the world, but if he doesn't fit with the 10 other guys, his individual ability is useless.

Buckethead's great, but he's always been a square peg in a round hole imo. I've never found him to be a good fit, regardless of his playing ability.

I’m not going to disagree with anything you’re saying about Lars. 
 

But when Lars comes up, I always like to mention (not so much to you, just generally) that he’s the genius behind Met. I credit him with most of Met’s success. A lot of people don’t know that he arranged their entire catalog, I think besides NEM. I always wished Lars could have managed GNR lol. He has (besides for the Napster fiasco) an incredible music business acumen. If you put a “better” drummer in Metallica, I believe their catalog would be much weaker. 
 

End Rant. 

8 hours ago, DoMw94 said:

I really don't get the appeal of vinyl these days.

Aside from the artwork – which you can put on posters, t-shirts etc. anyway – what's the appeal? Having a physical thing to collect? I can sort of buy that reason but not much else.

The sound quality isn't as good as a modern, lossless formats, and the present day vinyls aren't even properly produced as vinyls – they just paste the track onto the format as is, it isn't made for it, so that too affects it.

Someone woke up one day and decided vinyl was the way to go again and everyone just blindly followed suit. The same was tried with casettes and thankfully the world's coming to its senses on that one.

It just exists for the sake of it. There's a reason it died out in the first place.

I’m in it for the nostalgia personally. 

gUyS iTs A b SiDe, ItS gOnNa SuCk WhO cArEs YoU gUyS aRe DuMb

4 hours ago, colonizedmind said:

Ashba was trying to be like a gothic Slash with Ashswag

And eyeliner