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- I don' get all this "Izzy hype". He's a great musician and an essential credited member, but he quited the band by himself and avoided it's live peak period, so wasn't a "Gunner" till the end. Yet again, whatever the reasons, he has avoided the reunion. Key members reunited, Adler joined, Gilby said that he turned down, only Izzy cried about sharing the loot. Coincedence? Think not. Of course, I'm not bitching him, but as Axl said "Izzy... it's Izzy". For sure, it would be awesome if he would show up, but I don't mind if he won't at all. His choice, not others.   

- I don't mind, if Guns' will tour for a little whille more. I'm really fascinated to get the new album, but after all, it's hard to imagine that it'll be innovative or at least half worth of AFD or UYI. I eventually liked some titles from CD after Slash and Duff played it, but that's not the thing I would like to get one more time. I'm honest with myself - what I want to hear on Guns' show is its instant calssic - Jungle, City, Civil War, YCBM, some original deep cuts and other warm and fuzzy stuff. I enjoy hearing some CD songs as well, but nothing will compare to the earlier material. All in all, the new album should be released as it would be a logical continuation of a current life cycle, but I don't see an urgency in it. What they should do now is to start playing deep cuts. SOYL was a some sort of a revelation. 

All for now...

On 4/5/2019 at 10:11 AM, kiwiguns said:

Is there some sort of set rules you have to follow in the entertainment industry that states you do what everyone else does. 

If thats the case Axl would have TMZ on speed dial to tell them were he is so he can profit off the publicity himself. Axl would Tweet and Instagram all his daily movements, Marry one of the Kardashians, Guns N Roses to appear at the Grammy awards preforming with Post Malone or some rapper, either Axl or Slash appear in a leaked sex tape (claim it was via a hack) than profit from its sales even though they themselves were behind the leak. 

Thats not Rock N Roll.

Or you could do meet and greets like some other bands and sell guitars, amps, the gum you chewed on stage, the water bottel you drank from while on stage or your underwear you wore that night for a 5 min meet and greet and the purchase of any of those items for 10k.

You can say alot of things about GNR but i personally am glad they do thing's there own way, still to this day not following what everyone else does.

Axl wore tiny white bicycle shorts and kilts. 

Elvis, Little Richard, Elton John, Bowie, Mercury, Page, Plant. All did thing's differently from what others were doing. Thats Rock N Roll.

 

 

Totally agree. Guns has reuinited after 20 years, how somebody could ask for more? There might be complains during Axl & Co years, as they could have been pleasing fans with something intresting other than reuniting, but now I easily get it and the things go in the way, which I wouldn't change for any pro-fans activities. For sure, their "publicity" could be more fans-oriented, but still, they have created an atmosphere some sort of a mystery, so every event or news is valuable. Long live GNR.

On 1/16/2019 at 1:13 AM, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Yeah, I agree. Would love to see Axl sing for AC/DC, but if Brian is recording the new songs, he should be able to perform the live.

I was hoping some doctor would invent something for Brian to have so he could sing on tour. I mean medicine has come so far. Isn't there something someone can do for him?

Suppose if something can be done, it would be done already done as AC/DC is a massive brand and they should have solutions for an every case. Hearing was always a problematic issue for musicians. IEM save the day now, but it seems, Brian just got unlucky at these point. Probably, if they'll keep touring "lightweight", avoiding back-to-back concerts and tight schedule, Brian will endure. They even could extend Angus' solo or something to give him a rest every gig. 

P.S. Sorry for lateness - was gone from the forum for a while as Guns' were on hiatus. 

On 2/25/2019 at 8:01 PM, sl4yer said:

Sorry for responding to such an old post but what was the best gig last year for you? I thought that this one was the best. Poland was the longest but I think Moscow was vocally better, not much difference but much better This I Love in Moscow and few others too.

Sorry for responding so late - was gone from the forum for a while as Guns' were on hiatus - but now can give you a full-dress answer.

Speaking of Europe 2018 tour, the best gig, undoubtedly, was in Mannheim. Just watch how Axl nailed Paradise City! There were several others really strong - Tallin, Poland, Paris and Graspop. Moscow was a really good gig, but at the second half Axl had sank just a little bit. Though, the first part of Moscow's gig stoods pretty high - as where This I Love was played. At least, the band's efforts were decent. Attended both Moscow and Tallin. And Hamenlina 2017 (good, but ordinary). 

Speaking "globally", the best Guns' 16-18' show was in Houston 2016. Orlando and Foxboro 2016 go up next. And San Diego 2017 is close behind - just a wonderful gig given a so long setlist into considiration. Detroit and New York (October 16) in 2017 were also great.  

2 minutes ago, Bitchisback said:

I was at that show

Oh, congrats! Maybe in terms of vocals it wasn't the best-best, but one of the best on US 2016 and especially in terms of energy - for instance Civil War and Nightrain were really charged up! 

11 minutes ago, GNRfanMILO said:

*6. November Rain too

7. Japan 2017 (both nights) IEM Mix

8. Kobe 2017 IEM Mix

9. Osaka 2017 IEM Mix

10. San Diego 2017 IEM Mix

11. SCOM from Troubadour 2016 (I think a few more snippets are out there as well).

7* IEM was only from the first night. 

Best audience: Tokyo January 29th 2017, Coachella April 16th 2016 - very, very solid,  just occasionally listened to some tracks from MSG October 16th, 2017- fair enough and the best one as far as I know is Philadelphia July 14, 2016. Pobably there are more. Actually, I would like to know myself if there are some. I've got most of them, could guide to essential ones and provide them if you want. Though, in ALAC only - did for myself.  

8 hours ago, metallex78 said:

Yep, I’m anti-female because I dislike a member of the band who dresses, styles, and acts like a member of a Japanese Pop group.

If anyone else in the band did that, I would call them out on that too. 

But please, keep telling me how me not liking what Melissa brings to the band makes me a sexist, and how I fail to see the great vision of what she’ll bring to the table of a bunch of aging old rockers.

Bring back Tracy and Roberta I say. At least they were rock n roll attitude and served a purpose...

So, seems you also were bitching Buckethead, who was dressing up in cueless Michael Myers-type clothes and wore a ridiculous KFC bucket, as well as Chris Pitman's period gay look, and for sure was not glad about Axl's complete rap-hobo style of 2001-2002? Or it's just agression towards "Japaneese Pop Girls"? By the way, most of the time she looks pretty badass. Don't see any pop-notes or something - look at Gaga or Swift - that's pop. 

11 hours ago, Sanomatovic said:

As someone who only joined the forum in 2016, I have to say you can really tell who was around the dark years of the early 200s and who wasn't. You all have some sort of PTSD that is both funny and kind sad at the same time. I feel for those who followed the band when waiting for the release of CD. I can not imagine how many users MyGNR lost because they went insane.

 

I'm aware of what Fortus said in the past. But vaguely saying we want to release music in the future and saying we want to drop an album next year isn't the same thing. Show some faith people

Yeah, that’s weird and funny at the same time. You may notice here a lot word-of-mouth like “Gnr is dead”, “Axl can’t sing”, but at the same time many others notice how things are going really well. As for me, Guns’ are liver than they have ever been, so I’m quite optimstic. Though, must say, started to listen GNR in 2009 and even then did not take all “those days” stuff too seriously, the band for me was some sort of dead from 1993. But some people take things too personally and when the band member says about “releasing new music soon”, they overreact when it’s not happening. For me all these release days and promises are complete shit in terms of accuracy, you just need to keep them in mind with irony, not like fact. And nowadays I don’t give a shit whether the new album would be released in 1 year or 5, I want the band just keep working - live releases, touring and not falling apart after all. 

Thinking of a possible compilation is not kind of a big deal as the prescription is quite simple: take a some 33-34 song show with Rosie and Madagascar from 2017 as a structure basis, add Shadow of Your Love and bring the best versions of them. And to say what are the best is more up to someone who has an access to SBD - sometimes it's hard to justify unbias just watching the vids from the show. However, what I really would like to see is a video release and its theatrical run. It would be weird to see a video compilation, so we need either a full show or a some live documentary. As Axl's tiop form was in 2016, it's logically to choose a show from this period, however, none of them have both Patience and Don't Cry as well as sometime we also need to be "mix" to get the best show, so I'm coming with the some sort of documentary with the set as follows:
1. Introduction - montage of media reports of Slash sayng about negative stuff and Axl telling that they'll reunite "Not in this lifetime"  
2. Backstage video about stage and show design for NITL
3. It's So Easy - Detroit 2016
5. Mr. Brownstone - Detroit 2016
5. Slash interview
6. Chinese Democracy - New York, 16 october 2017
7. Welcome to the Jungle - New York, 16 october 2017
8. Mellisa Reese Interview
9. Better - Houston 2016
10. Live and Let Die - Houston 2016
11. Dizzy Reed Interview
12. Estranged - Houston 2016
13. Frank Ferrer Interview
14. You Could Be Mine - Orlando 2016
15. Duff Mackagan Interview
16. Attitude - Houston 2016
17. This I Love - Houston 2016
18. Civil War - Houston 2016
19. Band shares their memories about Troubadour reunion.
20. Band Introductions/Godfather Theme - Troubadour 2016
21. Sweet Child O'Mine - Troubadour 2016. 
22. Axl Rose interview, tells about the throne on the first shows
23. Don't Cry - Coachella 2016
24. Crew Interview about band's guitars and gear
25. November Rain - Foxboro July 20, 2016
26. Richard Fortus Interview
27. Knockin' on Heaven's Door - Houston 2016
28. Nightrain - Houston 2016
29. Backstage with the band preparing for cocnerts, bloopers and funny stuff.
30. Patience - Gdansk 2017
31. Final thoughts of everyone involved in the reunion 
32. Paradise City - Detroit 2017. 

It's pretty hard to choose a particular show for an audio/video release as, of course, I'd have chosen Houston 2016, but suppose broken piano sequence won't please November Rain fans, so probably go with Foxobro July 19/20... However, 2017 arena leg was also decent and had many songs in sets, so maybe it would be a fair alternative to go with MSG 3rd night on October 16 or San Diego November 28. Something like that.   

Not In This Lifetime Tour is coming to an end, but for now the band’s plans beyond that are only rumors and uncharted waters. Nevertheless, it’s a safe bet to anticipate a LIVE release based on this enormously succesful ride all over the world. But what kind of a release it would be? Let’s discuss what would you like to hear and in what form. Here’s 6 common live album ideas and types of releases. You have to choose TWO(2) trom this - which you would have released, if you “were in charge”. Also you may add some thoughts about what concerts it should be based on. 

1. NITL Live Documentary: ~2 hrs of a Live footage of the best performances of top songs + 30 mins of backstage video & interviews - home video release / theatrical run. 

2. Standard “Live Bootleg”: a complete 2 hrs 40 mins show from a particular date - audio & home video release / theatrical run

3. Extended “Live Bootleg”: a complete 3 hrs 20 mins show from a particular date - audio & home video release. 

4. Tour Compilation: 3 hrs of the best performances - audio release.

5. “Double” Bootleg: 2,5 - 3 hrs live album from two/three shows at one place (Coachella, LA, NY, etc.) - audio release. 

6. “Frankenstein Album” - 2,5 - 3 hrs of a single footage with an audio source from several gigs - video & audio release

As for me, suppose gonna choose 1 & 4. We have enough full concerts: in SBD (Forum, Apollo, Rio), IEM (San Diego, Vegas, Tokyo etc.) and in a decent AUD quality - maybe not all of them represent the band in the best shape, but in a case with NITL tour there is hard to find a concert where an every song was in its best - they are distributed among several. So, to get a full pro-shot would be cool, but will need several gigs to get a full experience, so a “compilation” with a montage of a new backstage footage and interviews would be a perfect match. And of course a compilation album (no oberdubbs!!!) is an essential addition. Preferable gigs for the song selection: Houston 2016, Foxboro 2016, MGS third night, Detroit 2017, San Diego 2017...

29 minutes ago, scooby845 said:

Oh my God... this brings so many chills! Let's be honest, the NA leg was the only proper leg of the tour before they started going autopilot mode. This is what real GNR feels like - unpredictability, Axl running around and most of all - listen to his voice! Fuck...

 

The NA Arena Leg 2017 was not bad either! 

Thanks @GNRfanMILO for the cool list and especially pointing out #8 - I was wondering whether that ever happened or not on this tour. Actually, once I was searching for a perfect PC and have listened to this show, but after the first verse cocluded that "this was not enough" and closed the video. Wish I've listened it further! Thanks to @Dean for acknowledging OWB on Buffalo show and @GoForJMark for finding the footage. Always thought that Prague show was the only one! There were so many cute and epic things, so it's kinda hard to choose the best. Well, let me also put some interesting facts and ideas:

1. Axl sang the original lyrics of Civil War from the first main verse "... with the brainwashed pride" only two times - Vegas 04.08.16 and Moscow 13.07.17. It wasn't good enough, but still. 
2. Axl sang "Oh God" in the intro of WTTJ at Osaka show 2017, the first time since 1993. The only time on tour, I suppose.  
3. Axl fell after curtain hall at Coachella show. Hopefully, it was the last time he has ever done it, as I remember. 
4. Melissa Reese's different wadrobe was great. I also liked the band's overall clothing and styling on it's tour - it was classical, but not plain, distinct for every member and dropped some unnecessary punk/undeground/deviant items like in 2001-2014 period. Axl was good in particular. 

The only question on which I'm still loookin' for an answer is... was there a proper SCOM? With rasp or it's variations? Almost every song Axl covered at its best on different shows, but not SCOM. There were some sights at Troubadour and Coachella gigs, but maybe there is something better? 

And for a desert probably the best PC on tour - with the smoothest rasp intro. 

It's bizarre, that if to be an outsider, reading random comments, you may think that Guns N' Roses = Izzy Stradlin and what we've got today is a collaboration kinda of Queen + Adam Lambert/Paul Rodgers...   

Are there some SOYL footages from Abu Dhabi? Can’t find even a single one. As YCBM, Civil War and some other difficult songs were dropped maybe here’s the same case and there’s a mistake in overall setlist? 

But imagine how it would be EPIC, if they managed to go up to Paradise City and Axl would have performed it stayng right next to a backstage, from time to time running to spit up. 

Not In This Lifetime Tour has become a safe heaven for Guns N' Roses - no serious delays, incidents or fails were observed during the whole tour. However, a recent concert in Abu Dhabi slightly reminded about infamous times of the band's inconsistance. Guns N' Roses was headliners at the concert associated with F1 Championship in Abu Dhabi on November 25th, but the gig didn't go as planned - due to Axl's sickness half of songs were dropped and the set ended with November Rain. Total of 17 songs were played and it has become the first major concert-related issue for almost 3 years. 

Mostly, everybody and especially the fans, were supportive for Axl and the band, however, some individuals expressed critical dissatisfaction of the gig and how the band handled the situation. As for me, I have full respect for Axl, shit happens and nobody's perfect. Hope he'll be okay and put all the critics to their knees on the next gigs. Though, must say, probably the band and stuff could manage the situation better - to short the set in favour of hits and to jam after the most of the songs. Suppose, if they ended with Paradise City, prevailing "not target audience" wouldn't have noticed a thing. Maybe, it was initially planned, but Axl just couldn't take it anymore and they left earlier. So, not a big deal, all we're humans, nobody was hurt (except for Axl), life's go on. 

However, if to look from a more proffesional point of view, the thing is not so clear as there can be two sides of the story. If the band and management were fully aware of Axl's conditions (seems they were, as he did IV) and gave some options like changing the set or even cancelling the show, but Axl said, that he would do it anyway, then Axl is a real hero as he tried to satisfy the fans against all odds. But, we can't exclude the option, where Axl, as usual, was having fun all night, drinking etc., caught some shit and the band's management said "whatever, we are busy watching F1" and even knowing about Axl's condition, nobody was really concerned and the band was changing the set already during the show.... well, then it may rise some concerns about handling the situation. Yet again, if Axl didn't do anything excessive (got high, seriously drunk or something), therere no blame for him. 

So, what do you think about the situation? Was it anybody's fault? Will be there serious consequences? 

They all just wanted to catch F1 champions’ honors. 

Full respect to Axl, shit happens, but probably they could handle the situation a little better - to drop SOYL and Slither, with Duff taking one more spot and to play Paradise City after NR with no encore. Suppose many fans would be pissed off takin the fact, that tickets were available only with pricey F1 entrees.  

Good (at some point) YCBM. 

Curiously, will they play Chinese Democracy which as far as I remember is banned or so in China. Thats basically Hong Kong, not China, but still... That should be exciting for the local fans. And the show have to be decent - Axl loves arenas, they had many gigs to finally warm-up. If not the first, the second have to be the top spot of the leg for sure. Unless, Axl indeed have some troubles this time...

I've become addicted to GnR around 2009 and even so, I didn't consider CD as a real Guns N' Roses album as well as the band which existed then. I mean, of course, I've listened to some songs in educational purposes and have been following band's news, but never fully accepted neither of it. Maybe titular song had and still has some more wieght in my eyes, but still the overall sound was different from classical GnR. But now, "for all I've seen has changed my mind" - I discover more songs and even listen them occasionally, preferably live versions from NITL. I can't say that the album is suddenly become great now (it alwas was "okay"), but when it's played by classical members, it's just more joyful to listen. And it's not only about the fact that Slash and Duff play and accept it, it's about the sound. It has changed to more classical GnR, becoming more "glammy" and heavy, less electric. So, I think it's fully justified, that CD is validates nowadays more than before.   

30 minutes ago, sl4yer said:

People were overreacting after show in Mexico that he is done etc. and now people are overreacting even more but in different way. I am happy is doing better and he sang Nightrain and Soyl with rasp. But when people say that it was the best show in 2018 or since NA 2016(wtf)? Come on, he is struggling so  much with This I Love that they had to drop it...

For sure, people are excited, but let’s be reasonable. Just a little bit pissed off when Axl’s being trashed for “so-so good” performances and at the same time praised for “struggling ones”. Though, absolutely agree that it’s because of Mexico show, where everyone came from a long hiatus and saw that Axl was done. Some sort of summer Berlin show, when, actually, I was scared too!

45 minutes ago, Jw224 said:

This is still my favourite performance of this song from the entire tour. 

 

https://youtu.be/KSxv85c_GgE

Let me challenge you thoughts!