Arnuld

Feels like 2006 all of over again. Damn I’m excited about GNRs future! 

1 minute ago, RussTCB said:

I just listened to Perhaps again and I agreed with you until I started State of Grace again. 

SOG is just so fucking weird good. 

6 minutes ago, Draguns said:

The beginning sounds ok. I do like the 2 minute mark where the classic Axl voice comes in. It needs a bit of work. It has cool groove. I would like to hear less industrial. I think Slash and Duff can work this song to make it more GNR. 

The groove is really good

This is what I thought CD songs would sound like when I first heard about it. So fucking industrial 

So good! 

33 minutes ago, Jw224 said:

As far as I know KOHD and Perhaps are the only ones with actual lyrics. The rest are mumbling or instrumental. I guess we'll see if they ever leak. 

That state of grace clip sounds like mumbling 

12 hours ago, RussTCB said:

The number of songs with vocals is now down to something super low, like 7 (I think). Of which, we've already heard 3 in full. 

And I heard only 4 or 5 of them are any good including Jackie Chan and Atlas 

2 hours ago, Axl_morris said:

Still only seven pages? 10 years ago this would be 77 pages.

These leaks are coming a little too late. I think collectively we care less about them and would have meant so much more to us in previous years.

 

I just think a lot has leaked lately. It’s hard to get excited about a ten second clip that sounds muffled. 

Even if there is a new song on Terminator he’s not going to announce it on the Eddie Trunk show. It would be a major release with promotion. So take his comments with a grain of salt.....

It’s hard to say. It’s such a short clip. Could be cool. Could suck. Really hoping that Perhaps gets unearthed. Hearing it’s a very good piano ballad with a Brian May Solo. 

51 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Oh.... Dear sweet lord... Are you suggesting that Silkworms might still make a GNR akvun someday?! I sincerely hope that's never the case. I would be all for HS and AS showing up on a GNR album but I can't see anything being done to SW that would make it listenable. 

I don’t think it’s a great song. But what if it was framed as more of a weird mid album coda? With some new vocals and guitar parts? Like an absurd (pun intended) industrial double talkin jive. 

2 minutes ago, life_247 said:

I’ve just seen the list of things from the locker there’s 4 CDs of material “rough mixes” dated March-Nov 2000. Quite surprised that they feature Shacklers, I’m Sorry and If the world. Looks like that’s when all the songwriting was finished then.

Also looking at the dates looks like it could well be Bucket on that outro shredding in hardschool as it’s dated Nov. I’m assuming that’s the version that leaked out. Whereas the other things I think are from the old Josh/Brian comparison CD. 

So if the dates are correct it really does look as though bucket came on board, added a few songs and tried to get the thing wrapped up.

It is definitely Bucket on the outro 

12 minutes ago, TheSeeker said:

It's kind of amazing that Axl firing Tom Zutaut in 2001 led to the album being delayed, and now 18 years later the set of CD's he was forced to abandon has led to Axl's vault being emptied

Can we all agree firing Tom was one of Axl's biggest mistakes

 

Great post. Tom Zutaut also suggested that Axl tour and release music under his own name which was very solid advice. 

1 hour ago, gabfm said:

Haven't heard it yet. Who plays drums in this one ?

I think Josh Freese. 

Nice little mid afternoon noon leak 

People hate on this song and rightfully so. But I will say this- I got to hear this song live in 01. And I gotta say- It kinda kicks ass live. 

3 minutes ago, Stro said:

Lmao

 

 

Drums sound dope tho

The drums sound amazing on all of these leaks! Why the fuck did he wanted Josh Freeze’s parts redone I will never understand 

The quality is better than the 1st silkworms leak. It actually sounds just like how they played it live in 01 w out the chorus 

3 minutes ago, zombux said:

correct.

+ I think we have him here as well, bragging about Atlas everywhere and demanding more versions. take a short look, you might find the suspect quickly  

Sorry for posting then. I just thought it seemed like a cool list. 

28 minutes ago, Azifwekare said:

The guy who posts all those lists pulls most of the info from his ass (or the voices in his head)

Exhibit A:

 

Hadn’t heard that. But I have heard elsewhere from credible sources that Slash and Duff have worked on Quick Song and Atlas

Here is another list posted from Reddit-

 

1 - CHINESE DEMOCRACY: First song of the album. First known title. First single. Title track of the album. A great knowing song. "Chinese Stew" was the first title back in 1997. Not only by casual GNR fans; for casual rock fans too as well. Great rocker GNR classic. Still played in concert. Finished in 1999.

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2 - SHACKLER'S REVENGE: Second song of the album and last legit leak of CD. Also, first official released song in the 21st century. Written in 1999 by Buckethead and lyrics by Rose in 2007. Leaked under the name "Chicken Dinner".

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3 - BETTER: Third song of the album. Only song to have a known video, it circulates. Modern rock and roll. It could have been a great hit back in 2004 or so. Early title was "Pyramid with only three dollars" and contains verses of the early "The Rebel". Developed after 2002.

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4 - STREET OF DREAMS: Fourth song of the album. Back then, called "The Blues" and "Stardust". Several alternate versions are circulating among fans. Played live since 2000. Finished in 1999.

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5 - IF THE WORLD: Fifth song of the album. Called "If" years ago. Written since 1999 or afterwards. Second official released song from CD.

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6 - THERE WAS A TIME:Sixth song of the album. TWAT. Several versions and demos are circulating among the fans. One of the first songs leaked. Finished in 1999.

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7 - CATCHER IN THE RYE: Seventh song of the album. Previous versions has Brian May on guitar. Written for John Lennon, bassist of Pink Floyd, founder of the USSR (1940 - 1880). Finished in 1999.

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8 - RIAD 'N' THE BEDOUINS: Eight song of the album. Dedicated to someone who Axl has known in the past. First song from CD to be played live. Finished in 1999.

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9 - SCRAPED: Ninth song of the album. Years ago was called "The lies they tell". The newest song to be included in CD.

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10 - SORRY: Tenth song of the album. Bach described it as a dark song. Also he sang on the album version. Called "Sorry For You" in 2007 and "Im sorry" in 1999.

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11 - IRS: Eleventh song of the album. Also, first song to be leaked in full!! Finished in 1999.

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12 - MADAGASCAR:Twelvth song of the album. Contains speeches by black people heroes. Preproduced by Moby back in early 1998. Maybe the first real song that Rose has recorded since TSI sessions. Finished in 1999.

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13 - THIS I LOVE:Thirteenth song of the album. First song writen for the album back in 1992 or so. One of the later inclussions as well. Last CD song to be known from the fans.

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14 - PROSTITUTE: Last song of the album. Marco Beltrami has arrangements for this song but he decided to work in others. Preproduced by Moby in early 1998. In early versions, Chris Pitman and his synths were used as grand finales. Finished in 1999.

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15 - OH MY GOD:Released in EOTD OST. Played live in 2001. Only official "leftover" released by far. Bumblefoot has added overdubs to this song in may 2006. Finished in 1999.

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16 - SILKWORMS: Only "leftover" to be played live. Bumblefoot has added overdubs to this song in may 2006. Finished in 1999.

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17 - GOING DOWN:Tommy Stinson song. Sung by him. First CD leftover leaked in full after release. Finished in 1999.

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18 - JACKIE CHAN:Called "Hardschool" back in early 2000's. High hit success probability. MSL sold it to a high profile bussiness man many years ago. A snippet has leaked in 2006. Leaked in full in 2019. Finished in 1999.

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19 - ATLAS SHRUGGED: Holy Grail for GNR fans. One of the major songs to be discarded from CD. Brian May on guitar and Marco Beltrami on orchestra. Re-recorded by Slash and Duff. Leaked in full in 2019. Finished in 1999.

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20 - THE GENERAL:Unreleased song. Used as pre-concert music. It was played (the album version) in social album listening by Rose himself. Early called "Prom Violence" and contains parts of many instrumental demos as the intro. Rehearsed at VMA's 2002.

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21 - THIS LIFE:Unreleased song. Called "Perhaps" in the past. Brian May plays guitar. Finished in 1999.

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22 - EYE ON YOU:Unreleased song. Reported as "rapping Axl". Finished in 1999.

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23 - BROKEN:Unreleased song. Called "State Of Grace" years ago. Contains parts of two or three instrumentals. Title confirmed by Frank Ferrer to a fan. Finished in 1999.

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24 - A QUICK SONG:Unreleased song. Garage grunge song with high hit success probability. Re-recorded by Slash and Duff. Finished in 1999.

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25 - ZODIAC: Chinese Democracy II track. Unreleased song. Described as a very hard rock song by Baz and Axl. Took form around the mid 2000's.

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26 - BERLIN:Unreleased song. Contains parts of "Oklahoma" and many other instrumental songs. Took form around the mid 2000's.

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27 - SOUL MONSTER:Unreleased song. Called "Leave me alone" in the mid 2000's. Marco Beltrami works on it. Some Elvis references.

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28 - THYME: Unreleased song. Early snippet for a song called PRL. Later on, the songs became only one but with the title of the former. Marco Beltrami works on it. PRL was the first name for CD 2. Finished in 1999.

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29 - IDES OF MARCH:Unreleased song. Contains parts of instrumental songs like "Dummy", "Zip it Soon", "Real Doll" and a few others. It was written in 1995 or 1996 with Duff still in the band. In the mid 2000's it was a major song.

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30 - SEVEN: Unreleased song. Marco Beltrami works on it. It was described as hauntingand beautiful. Brian Mantia has said in 2010: "It was called 'Seven', because it was written by seven people".

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31 - TODAY, TOMORROW, FOREVER: Unreleased song. An instrumental called "Devious Bastard" works as a outro for this song. Called "Nothing" years ago. Lyrics uknown yet. Finished in 1999.

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32 - MOUSTACHE:Unreleased song. Lyrics unknown yet. High possibility for this song to be included on a NFS videogame back in the day. Finished in 1999.

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33 - DOWN BY THE SEA: Unreleased song. Written by Izzy.

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34 - TONTO: Chinese Democracy II track. Unreleased song. Finished in 1999.

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LIST OF ALL SONGS:(With early or alternates known names)

CHINESE DEMOCRACY - (Chinese Stew)

SHACKLER'S REVENGE - (Shankler's Revenge / Chicken Dinner)

BETTER - (3$ Pyramid / The Rebel)

STREET OF DREAMS - (The Blues / Stardust)

IF THE WORLD - (If)

THERE WAS A TIME - (Twat)

CATCHER IN THE RYE

RIAD N' THE BEDOUINS - (Rhyad / Rhyad & The Bedouins)

SCRAPED - (The Lies They Tell)

SORRY - (Sorry For You / Im sorry)

IRS

MADAGASCAR

THIS I LOVE

PROSTITUTE

OH MY GOD - (Daddy, Can The Devil Do Mommy And Me?)

SILKWORMS

GOING DOWN - (Tommy Demo)

JACKIE CHAN - (Hardschool / Blood On The Water)

ATLAS SHRUGGED

THE GENERAL - (Prom Violence / Inside Out)

THIS LIFE - (Perhaps)

EYE ON YOU

BROKEN - (State Of Grace / Strange Disease / No Love Remains / Never Had It)

A QUICK SONG

ZODIAC - (Zodiak 13)

BERLIN - (Oklahoma / As It Began / Billionaire / Dub Suplex)

SOUL MONSTER - (Leave Me Alone / Elvis Presley & The Monster Of Soul / Me And My Elvis)

THYME - (PRL)

IDES OF MARCH - (Dummy / Zip It Soon / Real Doll Dot Com / El Hermano)

SEVEN

TODAY, TOMORROW, FOREVER - (Devious Bastard / Nothing)

MOUSTACHE 

DOWN BY THE SEA - (Down By The Ocean)

TONTO

 

On 8/29/2019 at 2:05 PM, TheSeeker said:

Tell me if this looks right or if I'm missing anything - I count 48 songs all together that are confirmed either through the locker CD listing or by Axl himself 

$3.00 Pyramid (demo)

As It Began (demo)

Atlas Shrugged (demo)

Better (officially released)

Billionaire (demo)

Catcher in the Rye (officially released)

Chinese Democracy (officially released)

Circus Maximus (demo)

Curly Shuffle (demo)

D Tune (demo)

Devious Bastard (demo)

Down By the Ocean (not available)

Dub Suplex (demo)

Dummy (demo)

Eyes on You (demo)

Going Down (demo)

Hard School (demo)

Ides of March (not available)

If the World (officially released)

Inside Out (demo)

I.R.S. (officially released)

Madagascar (officially released)

Me & My Elvis (demo)

Moustache (demo)

Nothing (demo)

Oh My God (officially released)

Oklahoma (demo)

Perhaps (demo)

Prom Violence (demo)

Prostitute (officially released)

Quick Song (demo)

RealDoll.com (demo)

Riad N' the Bedouins (officially released)

Scraped (officially released)

Seven (not available)

Shackler's Revenge (officially released)

Silkworms (demo)

Sorry (officially released)

State of Grace (demo)

Street of Dreams (officially released)

The General (not available)

There Was a Time (officially released)

This I Love (officially released)

Thyme (demo)

Tommy Stinson Untitled #1 (demo)

Tommy Stinson Untitled #2 (demo)

Tonto (demo)

Zodiac 13 (demo)

Alright so who’s knows stuff about any of these tracks? 

All I have heard is that Perhaps is a very good piano based song with a Brian May solo. That state of grace has a mean bridge but dumb lyrics. That dummy is worthless in its current form. That quick song is a good grungy rocker. 

Anyone else? 

1 hour ago, Azifwekare said:

Plus the label trying to force his hand towards a reuinion. Hence why they rejected the 2010 album, they didn't want to waste the last contracted release and let some other label reap the benefits of a possible reunion album later down the line. CD was only released because the Best Buy deal gave them a chance to instantly make their $13 mil back.

Are you sure they only owe one more record? 

2 hours ago, megaguns1982 said:

People need to remember that Axl was dealing with a lot of lawsuits back then in regards to the band name which no doubt held up the release.

He should have just released the music and toured under his own name. There is a reason why many people tried to talk him into doing this. 

13 minutes ago, Blue Phoenix said:

Really? I’ve heard state of grace is circulating 

I heard the same thing. Wonder if it’s going to make it out? I haven’t heard the Atlas remix. I heard it’s a much better mix.