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Id take any of them. But IRS is my favorite from those.

I enjoyed that last 2014 Shacklers with Duff alot, but i dont really see them play it without Bumblefoot, that said i miss that song in the set.

This is actually the last Riad, which i love too. 

1. Matt

2. Josh

3. Frank

4. Brain

5. Steven

7 hours ago, Amir said:

Is this the first time that Madagascar and Civil War have been played one after the other (i.e. both songs sample “What we’ve got here… is failure to communicate”)?

Indianapolis 2011

Best Perhaps so far

What a weird venue, they cannot even see the stage from up there.

The only leak that i prefer over the official version is Hard Skool.

Madagascar 2000 and Better 2007 are pretty much a tie between the leaks and official versions.

25 minutes ago, RONIN said:

There's a recent-ish Dave Abruzzese interview on youtube where he tells a quick story about Tobias. Paul comes off as a bit of a douche in the story.

What was it?

No curfew?

This show will be insane 

On 8/26/2023 at 1:09 AM, The Matinator said:

Obviously we don’t know 100%, but I’m fairly certain Hardskool was from the 1994-96 sessions & was carried over to CD. Not only because of Slash’s comments but also Josh stating he had no memory of it, which probably means he wasn’t too involved with the creation. Also, Tommy also said in a recent interview that he didn’t remember the song much either & that  it could have been a song by the old band but he wasn’t sure.

Except  Josh has a 1% writing credit for HardSkool. 

Tommy, Robin and Paul have 3,8% each.

1 hour ago, allwaystired said:

Doesn't look like a CD is coming does it?

Anyone seen/heard anything? Gutted if it doesn't. I want The General in CD quality! 

 

I take it as a good sign for more new music (Atlas) coming soon.

Absurd didnt get a physical release until Hard Skool was announced. Probably same here.

Vinyl for Perhaps / The General. Then release Atlas Shrugged with either a live track as the vinyl b-side or even a 4th new song. Then release a ep on cd with all the new stuff.

I wonder what happened with Pitman actually, i feel like those tweets came after he was fired.

Maybe it was a Paul Tobias situation where they had a fight and Slash/Duff were like its either us or him.

Or maybe it was purely Axl that got fedup with him after some attitude about doing a reunion instead of a new album.

26 minutes ago, Martin Riggs said:

Instrumentally, does rain typically make an impact on playing or is it not that big of a deal?

For vocal: humidity = good. Cold = bad.

Guitars: wet hands and fingers makes it harder to grip on the pick. 

Drums: wet hands not optimal but no big deal, but the drummer is covered anyway in those big stages, same goes for synths.

5 minutes ago, Ninjapie24 said:

Anyone know when they get on? We finally found a parking garage after 40 minutes of searching 

In 13 mins

1 hour ago, RONIN said:

Great post. Nu Guns had their shot - 1997 to 2014. The band as it stood in 2014 was truly an embarrassment.

It's like Axl had an identity crisis. He wanted to turn GnR into an experimental band with a lineup of underground players (a really cool idea) to reflect his eclectic taste in music. It didn't work because Axl wasn't real with who he was. He wasn't Perry Farrell or Trent Reznor. He was a rock god trying to rebrand himself into an auteur/producer...unsuccessfully. I'm listening currently to U2's Passengers album which apparently Axl was obsessed with in '97 according to Chris Vrenna. It's a cool little album of film score-esque tracks. I don't know how this kind of material was going to ever be integrated into GnR with Duff and Slash. One can only imagine their bewilderment as he used Passengers and Nine Inch Nails as a reference point for the next GnR album. He was moving away from guitar driven music to ambient - almost mood music soundscapes. Again, a really cool idea....but I think he just kind of bit off more than he could chew or he was so confined by what GnR's brand was that he couldn't escape that gilded cage to do the kind of experimental stuff he really wanted. The GnR name became his prison I guess. It would have been really fascinating if Axl could have composed moody pieces like "Plot 180" from the Passengers album as a background texture for Bucket and Finck to play around in. I think what I'm trying to say is, I wish the dude just went solo. He probably could have come up with a sick experimental album. But with his work ethic and creative inertia - who knows if it would have gone anywhere. That and the obsession with chasing whatever new trend was happening at the moment probably would have doomed the whole thing. Supposedly, Axl and the band worked on a number of more experimental tracks too advanced for the mullet head contingent of the GnR fanbase. This so called "experimental" material might have included the rumored moby influenced prodigy-esque tracks. Who knows if this stuff actually exists in some cohesive format?

Some people on GnR evo think that the band is burying the Chi Dem Era to promote the classic lineup. One can only hope that there is a boxset put out of the CD era. IF it's too embarrassing to reveal to the world that he doesn't have more than a handful of vocal tracks completed after 14+ years for that project (it's starting to appear that way) - just give us the alternate version tracks completed with each producer they had. That would be what, a 7 cd set minimum to cover the different producers + a cd that culls the best live material from that era + another cd of demos/outtakes?  That would be of primo value to many fans. Naturally, it won't happen.

The leaks had some stuff not too far from The Passangers.

Like Thyme

1 hour ago, youngunner said:

I've been to 19 shows since MSG 02. I could be wrong. It's been a long time. I have the vhs of that show. I'll have to take a listen one day but you are probably right

2002 had a different orchestral intro.

Like manic strings with some ambient ambiance

I agree with SoulMonster.

Its possible that Axl recycled some State Of Grace lyrics for the General. Hence the confusion.

7 hours ago, History2010 said:

It's possible but the timeline is extremely tight. We know The General was started from a sample by Brain. Brain joined GN'R in March 2000. State of Grace is dated March 27th, 2000 making it extremely likely that State of Grace pre-dates Brain joining GN'R and is therefore not The General. Based on all the dates on the CDs, it appears that Brain didn't really start working in the studio until Fall 2000.

Josh left in March 2000, i think Brain joined in the Summer.

The stream is so bad that i cannot really say anything about it

28 minutes ago, GNFNRUK said:

I’m obviously really looking forward to finally hearing ‘The General’. The only sad thing is, if Buckethead DID record the original guitar solo for it, you can almost guarantee that it would have been better than anything Slash puts on it. I’m thankful we got songs like TWAT with Buckets amazing contributions intact.

2002 called. It wants its debates back.

My theory / hope i on the cd is that if we get Atlas later this year or early next year, they wait until its all out and put out a cd with it all.

7 vinyls are now optimal since they cant fit much more.

6 hours ago, quikspade said:

Strange no CD option.  My guess is a full live compilation of random live tracks we didn’t get with UYI, couple of bonus songs ( Perhaps and General) and probably a bluray with a NITL concert.  Just my thinking while I wait for a CD with The General.

Maybe if we get Atlas too they wait for the CD to include everything at once.

In all seriousness i hope they kept the intro. I still get chills when listening to 06-10 bootlegs with it from memories from Helsinki 2006. Axl was 2 hours late (or was it 2,5h?)  (his plane from London was delayed) this was pre smartphones so noone had a clue whats going on and at the 1,5 hour delay mark it started to seem likely that there is not gonna be a show. People started talking that fuck we missed our chance of seeing GNR. It was my first show. And then BOOOM lights out, this epic 2 min intro starts... And then Jungle.

Epic

Imagine if The General is about a mcdaddy.