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Stay.Of.Execution

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  1. 34 minutes ago, Avillart said:

     

    Quite obviously she could not handle it. Her very first reaction was already a Confused emoji and then she projected porn onto the situation where there was zero porn. And I never questioned her whether she was really a fan. What I asked was if she was aware that it's GNR we're talking about. Because of her reaction. And this is the last thing I will say to this as it is a pointless discussion. BluegrassBlues can speak for herself. She chose not to and that's OK.

     

     

    My "read before...." reply was directed at SoulMonster ;)

    As for the last part of your comment, yes, like I said, I'm all for live and let live. But I'm afraid there's more happening on this forum than just sharing opinions. I've been judged harshly before, and after I had only just joined. But like I just wrote above, this is a pointless discussion. A case of agree to disagree. BluegrassBlues is not even taking part in it and I don't like to talk behind people's back, so to speak. Just to be clear again, she wasn't the only one I meant by "bunch of 12 year olds". The poster who said Axl's love of kinky sex is probably the reason why he's still single wins the fan competition... I mean how much more condescending and immature can it get. Not just judging Axl but also denying women's sexual agency. That's not the world I live in. 

    you have to understand that cause someone is a gnr fan, that person doesnt necessarily hold the same values as you, even though gnr might have been talking about that stuff back in the days. it's not that hard to get though, isnt it?

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  2. 3 minutes ago, BluegrassBlues said:

    It's ok @Ratam we all misread things on the internet, that reply was a bit aggressive for no reason. I am a bit worried about how this lawsuit is going to play out now though 

    I came off more aggressive as I intended, sorry. I just get annoyed about this topic after all the Karen Rodgers saga 😛

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  3. 1 hour ago, Powerage5 said:

    Dunno how much I trust that. Bratislava makes absolutely no sense on such a short tour. Not to mention they've never played Slovakia before, and AC/DC isn't particularly adventurous about playing new countries.

    i doubt the above posted is the whole tour. seems like there'll be a bunch more cities coming

  4. If you think about it. Brad only said that ratm in the original lineup won't be touring anymore. We haven't heard anything official from the band itself. I could imagine them maybe coming back at some point with a replacement for tim or brad - depending on who the problem is within the band.

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  5. 3 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

    I think an important point here is that Axl himself went public with his childhood abuse. He wanted it to be known, he wanted it to be part of the public discourse. This is not people digging into the secret past of a celebrity or speculating about things that are meant to be secret.

    And as Axl himself pointed out when he explained why he went public, it might not excuse or totally explain Axl's own violent or abusive behavior, but it certainly adds context and background to it. At the time when he decided to go public (although he had hinted towards it in earlier interviews, too), Axl was getting lots of criticism for the lyrical content of the band's songs and accusations of sexism and misogyny because of their behavior.

    Axl: I got a lot of violent, abusive thoughts toward women out of watching my mom with this man. I was two years old, very impressionable, and saw this. I figured that's how you treat a woman. And I basically put thoughts together about how sex is power and sex leaves you powerless, and picked up a lot of distorted views that I've had to live my life with. No matter what I was trying to be, there was this other thing telling me how it was, because of what I'd seen [Rolling Stone, April 2, 1992].

    As a digression: people scoff when people who abuse point to their own history of being abuse victims as an explanation. The rationale is that as a victim yourself you should know better. But it is not that simple. An abuse victim might not correctly identify the abuser as the problem. A child that is hit because he broke a glass might not see that it is the father who hit him that is the problem and that it is the hit that is the abuse. The child might just be left with feelings of being hurt, shameful and fear and be imprinted that violence is a normal response under certain circumstances in a relationship. That normalization of abuse means that it becomes easier for that person himself to react the same way later on. Violence begets violence, also in families. IT is hard to break the cycle even if you connect hurtful feelings to it. Axl, at the very least, was aware of being damaged and tried to break the pattern of behavior by seeking professional help.  

    I know Axl talked about it openly. But as the poster above pointed out: it's his story which is a very intimate and delicate one. Random people discussing who sexually abused Axl on a forum just doesn't feel right. 

  6. 4 minutes ago, Rovim said:

    it's abuse, but it's still 2 very different types of abuse. Different hardcore fans care about different aspects of the band members in Gn'R. A lot of fans can't help themselves and be interested in what exactly happened with Gn'R, the music and the lives of the members in the band so how do you decide what is appropriate to talk about and what is not? 

    I get there is a creepy element of trying to understand details of the lives of celebrities you don't even know, but nowdays a lot of musicians themselves are opening up about shit they went through way more often and Axl has been open about it in the past, so I don't really see anything wrong with it as long as the boundries of it are still being respected by following forum rules and not be a fuckin' stalker or some shit.

    I get that. I think it's just a bit crossing the line of fandom to discuss the sexual abuse someone took from whom and when. Imagine Axl stopping by and seeing people arguing over who he was sexually abused by. It's creepy

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