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Funny that in both the Estranged & SIDHY videos, hired guns try, ineptly, to save Axl from drowning. Dizzy casting the net in anger in the latter is pretty hilarious, considering how laid-back the others are.

Just now, oneway23 said:

Why?

Because you might contribute more to the discussion that way. 

Now you just come off as someone who cares a lot and tries to convince themselves otherwise. Know thyself

22 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

Look...shockingly, I'm not an insider, I have no additional information.  It can be likely or unlikely.  I honestly don't care.  It's merely my opinion.

For someone who doesn't care or know, you seem quite eager to draw the line on 2007 with the vox. Pick a lane.

On 9/25/2021 at 7:27 PM, Towelie said:

I'd love it if Absurd was nominated and won. Imagine Silkworkms getting a Grammy.

 

If Trent can win with Wish, Ax can win with Absurd.

12 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

My skepticism lies in the idea that Axl has recorded fresh vocal takes for any Guns N' Roses material at any point beyond 2007, or thereabouts.

Fortus said he was recording vox in late 2014.

 https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/richard-fortus-on-new-guns-n-roses-album-axl-rose-wants-to-create-stuff-and-release-it-when-its-ready/

Should it not be the next vocal track coupled with new instrumentals? Meaning, it's going to be a different animal than the Village version, in all likelihood.

Atlas is one song that would benefit from a complete overhaul.

1 hour ago, jekylhyde said:

From what I've read, most bands write the music first and melodies plus lyrics second. That's also the way I write songs, because I think it's way easier to come up with a melody when you have chords, because you can "find" the notes of the melody from the notes of the chords.

Yeah, that's the common way to go about it for the reason you mentioned. I think Ax wrote most of the the AFD lyrics early on, before the music. With the UYIs, the music came first and the release was postponed by vocal work.

Ax is known to create melodies with a piano and an acoustic. That can be differentiated from "writing the song", even if there's an instrument present. Not unusual, really.

The current methodology reminds me of those (rather good) fan-made mash-ups of VR tracks with CD vocals, like Messages from Madagascar. Should've known back then that it was to be the future of GNR.

I too have come around to enjoy Hard Skool 2.0. It's certainly better to have Slash & Duff re-do the music, instead of copy-pasting bits into the mix.

Yet, Axl in around 2000:

"I write the vocals last, because I wanted to invent the music first and push the music to the level that I had to compete against it."

20 years later his line is approximately:

"I throw the original music away and have the new band compete against my age-old vocal takes. That'll show 'em."
 

This weird-ass approach does appear to meld Slash's UYI-informed playing with Axl's CD era quirks pretty well. Unusual way to make music, but... this band.

2 hours ago, AxlUlrich said:

I prefer the version recorded during the CD sessions. 
I only listened to the new version once and did not hit replay

I stopped midway. Guess I'm a bigger fan of the demo than I thought

Oh, well. They released a version of the song, which is fine and well. Hope the most of you get a kick out of it.

On 9/9/2021 at 9:10 AM, StrangerInThisTown said:

Yeah CD is an album as "serious" as it gets, it's IMO more of an angry bitter statement/response by Axl to the world, since most of the world had the opinion that he broke up the band and was responsible and an asshole for that.

The bitterness is the throughline in most CD lyrics. Some songs and barbs Axl saved especially for some former ladyfriends. Atlas Shrugged may be the most upbeat song of the bunch - even if Axl's reach exceeds his grasp there. Instead of him going down that road he sings about, we get the lyrical equivalent of an overhead drone shot. The lyrics, then, don't quite coalesce for me. It's almost as if the Atlas narrator is daydreaming about a better life that would await him, if he got his head together ("we hope you understand"). So instead of Atlas, we get Absurd - a song that should be heard.

3 hours ago, lukepowell1988 said:

Is it still coming? 

It's on already.

On 9/20/2021 at 10:23 AM, Lies They Tell said:

I think it's because Prostitute was described as "fire and ice". That's what made at least me think that it might be a rocker. I was expecting a song with a lot of contrast, like really hard hitting parts and some calmer parts.

At the end of the day that is kinda what Prostitute is, but I guess I was expecting it to be mostly hard hitting with some calmer parts, but it ended up being mostly calm with some hard hitting parts.

Yeah, I think that was the late Paul Buckmaster with the fire & ice quip. IIRC, he had some Guns listed work in his CV well before the album came out, and somebody asked him about it. Paul was gracious enough to actually detail the song. Had totally forgot about that one

As for the reception, Prostitute was Untitled #2 (or #3) on the AntiQuiet leaks - yet it was openly contested on the forums, as the track presumed to be Prostitute sounded nothing like the imaginary track called Prostitute.

On 9/18/2021 at 10:38 AM, there is no dana only zool said:

I would argue Prostitute based mainly off a post by Kaneda in which he said something along the lines of, "I can't wait to hear Axl rip into Prostitute for the first time..." This was before anyone had heard it but Chris' line made one think that it was a rocker, so, I think that fueled hype, at least on mygnrforum. 

I think Youth was the first to talk about Prostitute, suggesting it was a hard track for Axl to put together. Brain was later asked about it, and he said something vague, which fueled more rumors about the nature of the song. But yeah, a lot of fans were convinced it was a rocker before hearing it.

On 9/18/2021 at 6:09 PM, Jwalker19 said:

I'm sorry, but I find it so comical that some fans read this statement and immediately went back to the mindset of, "Oh, clearly Hard Skool was definitely supposed to be played that night, but wasn't because of this." Just stop, people. 😂

Circular reasoning. Take a desired outcome and figure out the suitable premises.

It's a fairly known gimmick to put out 'something' to appease concert promoters that a new product is coming and that it will lure fans to the venues.  Too bad the fans start reading tea leaves in want of something that (maybe) was fugazi to begin with.

17 minutes ago, IrishgunnerII said:

Can Chris pitman account for his whereabouts if it was food poisoning as Axl seems to think.

Axl asked for help on some samples. Chris came running.

Then Axl said, "stool samples, matey".

8 hours ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

The fact that they didn't play HS is one thing, but i don't get why Axl won't ever acknowledge the anniversaries of his most important albums on stage. 

What else is new? He was touring as AFD went 20. Nada. RRHOF? Nope. CD turns 10? Nothing much. Whenever he broadly comments on the subject, the line is on moving forward with the band & the music, instead of looking back.

Would almost say he avoids looking back. Apparently that also snubs any forward momentum.

On 9/12/2021 at 3:27 AM, Screamin' Demon said:

What I really like about him is that is he is not a Narcissist who tried to make us all deluded that he is some perfect dude; he just let himself walk freely even he knew that he was making errors and imperfections and seemed to say "Well, that's just me; I've done a lot for the music world already and you can't expect something stellar on my end all the time; I'll make errors too"

His line was that a whole bunch of other people were out to foil him. So he was trying, but, y'know, managers book tours without telling him, former members badmouth him in the press (as if the gossip columns would offer a balanced view, anyway), even guitar players skidoodle every now and then. He said he was trying to run an operation with integrity, while other people were, according to him, invested in running it to the ground.

If only those guys would've formed their own Perfect Circle.

20 hours ago, BangoSkank said:

If this weren't cancelled and the tour was successful - where would Guns be right now?

They would've completed the remaining US dates running up to Jan 03, likely without an album. Just like they did in 2006. More shows abroad, like a summer tour. Hiatus. Label issues. CD out a year or two sooner, but with similar problems.

Bummer. Brief illness, I hear. Timo had just moved back to Finland from London last year and was working on an autobiography with a local publisher.

Here's hoping the book will be completed and released posthumously.

It adds up. Axl was undoubtedly under pressure to deliver an album and a long planned tour. He was triggered by any mention of Slash. Riots, spotty ticket sales, media commentary, VMAs that did not go very well...

Dude was frail, mentally. He brought up his a-game for MSG, so no question those Stern show comments hurt.

On 8/26/2021 at 4:15 PM, Blackstar said:

There are some really funny stories about Axl firing and rehiring people.

Sad ones, too. He checked into Rumbo unannounced once or twice early in the morning, and found only Josh and some engineers were working late. Ax had a fit (expecting to meet the full lineup) and told everyone they were to shut down, pack it up and leave for good.

They should play Breakdown. This lineup could really have fun with it. The lyrics are some of the most versatile Ax's ever written and he wouldn't have to exert his voice all that much.

On 8/15/2021 at 9:22 PM, Coma16 said:

The media ban that TB imposed on all the big music websites is lifted. 

And now it's imposed again. The article has been removed.