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No kidding here people! I can give examples..This is a common phenonmenon amongst the community, some people that were at a particular show will swear up and down Axl's just delivered the performance of his career, then that won't transpire in the subsequent videos.
It clearly has something to do with the mix. The prominence of the guitars probably distort a clear perception of Axl's vocals and clearly there are special effects in operation too.
In Hartford 2002 I though Axl was amazing. Then I heard the boot and he cracked on Jungle in the worst possible way, it was really funny. Since then I've learned to gauge Axl without being caught up in the moment.
he uses "soft rasp", that's a new one.
But you can't hear it on cell phones... only on pro shot dvds. haha
I would love to hear these examples. Can you post pro shots vs cell phones where the pro shots pick up this 'soft rasp' and the cell phones don't please?
You're all rather moronic, to be honest.
I'm in no way defending Axl, he isn't as good as he was in 2010. But the fact still remains that he (and any other singer ever) will always sound better actually live, than on a video. (More so with Axl, because of the rasp everyone so desperately wants to hear)
Pro footage doesn't mean shit, I actually think it's worse than a regular fan camera, especially GNR's recent pro shot gigs anyway with the mixing. (Reading, London for example) With Reading it sounds better with fan recordings than it does pro footage.
I was at London, and while he didn't sound as great as he did in 2010 (when i saw him twice), he sure as hell sounded much better than any footage i've seen. It's a completely different experience when you're actually there, with the atmosphere, rather than the band being recorded and edited. I suppose it helps when his voice is echoing and bouncing from wall to wall at the o2 arena, sounding more 'live' and more powerful than the edited pro footage. I never once thought he was off form at all.
Same goes for 2010 btw. He still sounds amazing in any footage but it was still even better live.
a new level of delusional.
I believe what he is saying is that Live... you don't get an accurate perception of his vocals because of the live reverb, so since you can't hear him as good you 'Think' he sounds better than he does. Then when you listen to the mic source, you get the accurate representation... so Axl isn't good live, but the terrible acoustics and on the fly mixing make it seem like he might be good. I'll be damned because Ritz 88, Rock Am Ring 06 and Inland sound amazing to me. Then you throw on London 02 and the VMAs and you're like, wtf?
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I was hoping he was playing the song on piano
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This is a common phenonmenon amongst the community, some people that were at a particular show will swear up and down Axl's just delivered the performance of his career, then that won't transpire in the subsequent videos.
It clearly has something to do with the mix. The prominence of the guitars probably distort a clear perception of Axl's vocals and clearly there are special effects in operation too.
In Hartford 2002 I though Axl was amazing. Then I heard the boot and he cracked on Jungle in the worst possible way, it was really funny. Since then I've learned to gauge Axl without being caught up in the moment.
he uses "soft rasp", that's a new one.
But you can't hear it on cell phones... only on pro shot dvds. haha
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In 2010, MTL did not get Estranged and Rocket Queen witch would of been awesome to hear
Axl's rendition of Rocket Queen in 2012-13 isn't even worth hearing.
It is if you're looking for laughs
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LOL I'll believe it when I hear it.
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Probably because he always IS drink.
Thanks for the pics!
He didn't seem so drunk in 2002... I can't blame him all things considered.
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We've all heard the stories about Axl not showing up to rehearsals, we've seen the Bumblefoot Video and heard about his Approval or Disapproval of Studio Takes over the phone. Does the blame of the state of affairs in GNR, the band being all over the place and not knowing what is going on due to the fact that Axl just doesn't take the initiative to be a good leader? If Axl was more available to the band and had a clear vision of where he wanted to take it, could NuGNR have been more successful? And if this is true is it too late for Axl to make changes and make this thing more than a cover band / nostalgia act?
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@IzzysArmy
Axl giving 110%. Sounds like 2009-2010 voice.
I hope so.
Doubt it.
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Aren't these guys bored by now? I'm bored just reading their setlist.
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Drama Drama Drama.
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With the musical differences in wanting to move forward after 1993 could GNR have been saved if Axl got all of his artistic differences out of his system. Slash and Duff did so while hoping that eventually the band could agree on one musical direction. In a 1994 interview Axl seemed so excited about a side project he was working on... it never came to fruition and eventually became NuGNR. Do you think if Axl had done this he would have came to his senses and realized that he alone wasn't Guns N' Roses.
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I'm surprised people actually still care whether this gets released. We've all heard Axl's vocals through this period.
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I don't know about failed, but I'm pretty sure it would have been better than CD.
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have you ever watch O2 london video 720p-1080p using an earphone?
after you do that, you'll notice the difference
Yes I have. Are you guys saying that with good quality you can hear Axl using rasp where as with shitty quality you can't? I think that's what I'm disagreeing with... I'm not sure anymore. Because you can tell whether he's using rasp no matter what quality.
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All jokes aside, there is a difference. Not to the extent that some people joke at, but there is. Not just Axl, everyone. But with Axl, different sound quality makes it more difficult to hear rasp.
I disagree with this entirely. As long as you can hear Axl you can tell whether he's singing clean or whether he's using rasp. The difference is unmistakable.
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Load was way better than St. Anger. YOU FLUSH IT OUT YOU FLUSH IT OUT. LOL
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Slash started secretly installing an audio app onto all GNR concert goers cell phones in 2011 remotely. It's set to pick up only Axl's vocals in a live concert and put them through a secret Micky Mouse Filter. He's spent millions and had to send people all over the world, but by God, he's done it.
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Long Live King Kong Bundy
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It's so sad that Axl could put in a couple hours and have great vocals on Angel Down, then when he records for his own band and has over a decade to do vocals he doesn't use much of his signature sound. Plus his double tracking is way too high in the mix.
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I can't believe how bad Axl sounds just 3 years later. It's like he's yelping on helium, he sounds sooo bad.
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I'd go to see this.
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Wow I used to spend so much time in show threads reading reviews. Now it's just a quick glance at the setlist which I swear I've seen before, ohh pardon me, plus one new cover, and I'm out.
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I think the endless touring is because Axl can demand all that awesome catering. I think that's the only reason Axl keeps touring these days.
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talking about things reasonably seems overrated. the Bon jovi board is a ghost town. Bitching about stuff really keeps the threads postin'.
Haha, Bon Jovi Message Board? How would you know?
Toronto - July 15th
in 2013 Tour Dates
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Maybe if we're lucky we'll get Nightrain! They haven't played that in ages.