Why have you turned?

[jimb0]

I know there are some new rules and stipulations and whatever... but I'm not trying to hate.

It's just I was looking up Nightrain Rock AM Ring. And not only doesn't it seem like the same band anymore, it doesn't even seem like the same frontman. So I'm just curious, as nut-swingers transform to haters before the trainwreck that is GNR.... Is it due to no new music, or the horrendous live shows Axl does these days. If it's somethin else feel free to mention.

Edited August 1, 2013 by jimb0

[volcano62]

I know there are some new rules and stipulations and whatever... but I'm not trying to hate.

It's just I was looking up Nightrain Rock AM Ring. And not only doesn't it seem like the same band anymore, it doesn't even seem like the same frontman. So I'm just curious, as nut-swingers transform to haters before the trainwreck that is GNR.... Is it due to no new music, or the horrendous live shows Axl does these days. If it's somethin else feel free to mention.

Everything you just typed is bullshit.

Horrendous live shows? Ok buddy not the shows I been too last month.

[Hollywood Gunner]

I know there are some new rules and stipulations and whatever... but I'm not trying to hate.

It's just I was looking up Nightrain Rock AM Ring. And not only doesn't it seem like the same band anymore, it doesn't even seem like the same frontman. So I'm just curious, as nut-swingers transform to haters before the trainwreck that is GNR.... Is it due to no new music, or the horrendous live shows Axl does these days. If it's somethin else feel free to mention.

Everything you just typed is bullshit.

Horrendous live shows? Ok buddy not the shows I been too last month.

agreed... metropolis was fuckin awesome !

@ OP - whens the last time you saw GNR live ? (youtube doesnt count)

[Gordon Comstock]

No music is frustrating, but I'm still a fan, still gonna see them whenever they come around, still hoping one day to hear new music. I've been listening to the RAR 06 show recently too actually, and holy fuck does it put every show from the last 2 years (at least) to shame.

[TombRaider]

I don't hate the band. Sometimes I will make fun of them, yes. But I don't hate them. It's just that I'm extremely disappointed. That's all.

[volcano62]

I know there are some new rules and stipulations and whatever... but I'm not trying to hate.

It's just I was looking up Nightrain Rock AM Ring. And not only doesn't it seem like the same band anymore, it doesn't even seem like the same frontman. So I'm just curious, as nut-swingers transform to haters before the trainwreck that is GNR.... Is it due to no new music, or the horrendous live shows Axl does these days. If it's somethin else feel free to mention.

Everything you just typed is bullshit.

Horrendous live shows? Ok buddy not the shows I been too last month.

agreed... metropolis was fuckin awesome !

@ OP - whens the last time you saw GNR live ? (youtube doesnt count)

He has probably never seen GNR live. Youtube is his only credibility.

[jimb0]

I know there are some new rules and stipulations and whatever... but I'm not trying to hate.

It's just I was looking up Nightrain Rock AM Ring. And not only doesn't it seem like the same band anymore, it doesn't even seem like the same frontman. So I'm just curious, as nut-swingers transform to haters before the trainwreck that is GNR.... Is it due to no new music, or the horrendous live shows Axl does these days. If it's somethin else feel free to mention.

Everything you just typed is bullshit.

Horrendous live shows? Ok buddy not the shows I been too last month.

agreed... metropolis was fuckin awesome !

@ OP - whens the last time you saw GNR live ? (youtube doesnt count)

He has probably never seen GNR live. Youtube is his only credibility.

2012 Roseland, 2011 Hartford, 2006 Jersey, 2006 NYC, 2002 Hartford.

[Hollywood Gunner]

I know there are some new rules and stipulations and whatever... but I'm not trying to hate.

It's just I was looking up Nightrain Rock AM Ring. And not only doesn't it seem like the same band anymore, it doesn't even seem like the same frontman. So I'm just curious, as nut-swingers transform to haters before the trainwreck that is GNR.... Is it due to no new music, or the horrendous live shows Axl does these days. If it's somethin else feel free to mention.

Everything you just typed is bullshit.

Horrendous live shows? Ok buddy not the shows I been too last month.

agreed... metropolis was fuckin awesome !

@ OP - whens the last time you saw GNR live ? (youtube doesnt count)

He has probably never seen GNR live. Youtube is his only credibility.

maybe he should have included a 3rd choice in his poll then lol #3 because they never come to my country lol thats actually a valid reason to dislike a band

I know there are some new rules and stipulations and whatever... but I'm not trying to hate.

It's just I was looking up Nightrain Rock AM Ring. And not only doesn't it seem like the same band anymore, it doesn't even seem like the same frontman. So I'm just curious, as nut-swingers transform to haters before the trainwreck that is GNR.... Is it due to no new music, or the horrendous live shows Axl does these days. If it's somethin else feel free to mention.

Everything you just typed is bullshit.

Horrendous live shows? Ok buddy not the shows I been too last month.

agreed... metropolis was fuckin awesome !

@ OP - whens the last time you saw GNR live ? (youtube doesnt count)

He has probably never seen GNR live. Youtube is his only credibility.

2012 Roseland, 2011 Hartford, 2006 Jersey, 2006 NYC, 2002 Hartford.

were the 11-12 shows what made you turn on the band ?

[jimb0]

I love this band, I'm just highly disappointed at what Axl does with it. I woulda gone to 1993 Hartford but my rents said I was too young and that I could go see 'em when they came back.

Edited August 1, 2013 by jimb0

[volcano62]

2012 Roseland, 2011 Hartford, 2006 Jersey, 2006 NYC, 2002 Hartford.

Aren't you from South America? Anyone that was see them live would not have your point of view.

agreed... metropolis was fuckin awesome !

@ OP - whens the last time you saw GNR live ? (youtube doesnt count)

Metropolis was EPIC

Edited August 1, 2013 by volcano62

[Hollywood Gunner]

I love this band, I'm just highly disappointed at what Axl does with it. I woulda gone to 1993 Hartford but my rents said I was too young and that I could go see 'em when they came back.

same with the montreal riot... i bitched for weeks to go, and gotta big fat "i told ya so" after the riot lol then had to wait till 2010 to see em again... i wont lie, that kinda pissed me off, but fuck man, look at how much great music theyve all given us... i think about that alot... im really greatful that we have the music we do have... do i wanna hear more ? fuck yeah ! but even if i never do, the music i do currently have from the band is reason enough to keep supporting them

[jimb0]

I know there are some new rules and stipulations and whatever... but I'm not trying to hate.

It's just I was looking up Nightrain Rock AM Ring. And not only doesn't it seem like the same band anymore, it doesn't even seem like the same frontman. So I'm just curious, as nut-swingers transform to haters before the trainwreck that is GNR.... Is it due to no new music, or the horrendous live shows Axl does these days. If it's somethin else feel free to mention.

Everything you just typed is bullshit.

Horrendous live shows? Ok buddy not the shows I been too last month.

agreed... metropolis was fuckin awesome !

@ OP - whens the last time you saw GNR live ? (youtube doesnt count)

He has probably never seen GNR live. Youtube is his only credibility.

maybe he should have included a 3rd choice in his poll then lol #3 because they never come to my country lol thats actually a valid reason to dislike a band

I know there are some new rules and stipulations and whatever... but I'm not trying to hate.

It's just I was looking up Nightrain Rock AM Ring. And not only doesn't it seem like the same band anymore, it doesn't even seem like the same frontman. So I'm just curious, as nut-swingers transform to haters before the trainwreck that is GNR.... Is it due to no new music, or the horrendous live shows Axl does these days. If it's somethin else feel free to mention.

Everything you just typed is bullshit.

Horrendous live shows? Ok buddy not the shows I been too last month.

agreed... metropolis was fuckin awesome !

@ OP - whens the last time you saw GNR live ? (youtube doesnt count)

He has probably never seen GNR live. Youtube is his only credibility.

2012 Roseland, 2011 Hartford, 2006 Jersey, 2006 NYC, 2002 Hartford.

were the 11-12 shows what made you turn on the band ?

In a sense Yes... Axl is no longer giving it his all.

[bran]

I don't hate the band. Sometimes I will make fun of them, yes. But I don't hate them. It's just that I'm extremely disappointed. That's all.

this

i feel exactly the same way. what really started getting to me is just reading interviews from someone like bumble who you can tell is extremely frustrated. beta's response to the question about new music was also a turning point.

Edited August 1, 2013 by bran

[jimb0]

2012 Roseland, 2011 Hartford, 2006 Jersey, 2006 NYC, 2002 Hartford.

Aren't you from South America? Anyone that was see them live would not have your point of view.

agreed... metropolis was fuckin awesome !

@ OP - whens the last time you saw GNR live ? (youtube doesnt count)

Metropolis was EPIC

I'm from North America LOL. Like You, but in the non Canada Part.

[volcano62]

I love this band, I'm just highly disappointed at what Axl does with it. I woulda gone to 1993 Hartford but my rents said I was too young and that I could go see 'em when they came back.

same with the montreal riot... i bitched for weeks to go, and gotta big fat "i told ya so" after the riot lol then had to wait till 2010 to see em again... i wont lie, that kinda pissed me off, but fuck man, look at how much great music theyve all given us... i think about that alot... im really greatful that we have the music we do have... do i wanna hear more ? fuck yeah ! but even if i never do, the music i do currently have from the band is reason enough to keep supporting them

Dude you were at the Montreal riot?

Me too

I was pissed at the time but looking back I was part of GNR history.

2012 Roseland, 2011 Hartford, 2006 Jersey, 2006 NYC, 2002 Hartford.

Aren't you from South America? Anyone that was see them live would not have your point of view.

agreed... metropolis was fuckin awesome !

@ OP - whens the last time you saw GNR live ? (youtube doesnt count)

Metropolis was EPIC

I'm from North America LOL. Like You, but in the non Canada Part.

Cool wtf why did I think you're from South America?

Anyway don't worry bro new music will come out also the bluray

[jimb0]

I love this band, I'm just highly disappointed at what Axl does with it. I woulda gone to 1993 Hartford but my rents said I was too young and that I could go see 'em when they came back.

same with the montreal riot... i bitched for weeks to go, and gotta big fat "i told ya so" after the riot lol then had to wait till 2010 to see em again... i wont lie, that kinda pissed me off, but fuck man, look at how much great music theyve all given us... i think about that alot... im really greatful that we have the music we do have... do i wanna hear more ? fuck yeah ! but even if i never do, the music i do currently have from the band is reason enough to keep supporting them

Dude you were at the Montreal riot?

Me too

I was pissed at the time but looking back I was part of GNR history.

2012 Roseland, 2011 Hartford, 2006 Jersey, 2006 NYC, 2002 Hartford.

Aren't you from South America? Anyone that was see them live would not have your point of view.

agreed... metropolis was fuckin awesome !

@ OP - whens the last time you saw GNR live ? (youtube doesnt count)

Metropolis was EPIC

I'm from North America LOL. Like You, but in the non Canada Part.

Cool wtf why did I think you're from South America?

Anyway don't worry bro new music will come out also the bluray

Maybe it was the eyeliner pic? Lol. I hope so... All I want is for Axl to try just a little harder with this GNR thing.

[Hollywood Gunner]

were the 11-12 shows what made you turn on the band ?

In a sense Yes... Axl is no longer giving it his all.

well judging from what i saw 2 and a half weeks ago, he is... hes in his fucking 50's lol obviously people slow down with age... just cuz he doesnt sound or act the same as he did in his 20's or 30's does not mean hes not giving it his all... anyone who likes the old stuff doesnt have to support what hes doing now, but its reason enough to show the guy a bit of respect, cuz he gave us alot... and he went through alot of mental aguish to do so... some people say boo-fuckin-hoo about his personal problems and dont agree with the way hes done things, but fact of the matter is, he created and performed some of our favorite music... so whether or not i think he had a valid reason to have an emotional breakdown or wtv the fuck happened, it affected him in his own way... he paid a price to put that music out, and im thankful for all that... hes made some bad decisions, but has also made some very good ones, just like anyone else... and the fact that he gave us afd, lies, uyi 1&2 should at least be enough to show the guy some respect... the reason i want new music is cuz i liked CD, if i hadnt, i wouldnt be on here bashing it... id focus on the stuff i do like

[hereskyrose]

were the 11-12 shows what made you turn on the band ?

In a sense Yes... Axl is no longer giving it his all.

well judging from what i saw 2 and a half weeks ago, he is... hes in his fucking 50's lol obviously people slow down with age... just cuz he doesnt sound or act the same as he did in his 20's or 30's does not mean hes not giving it his all... anyone who likes the old stuff doesnt have to support what hes doing now, but its reason enough to show the guy a bit of respect, cuz he gave us alot... and he went through alot of mental aguish to do so... some people say boo-fuckin-hoo about his personal problems and dont agree with the way hes done things, but fact of the matter is, he created and performed some of our favorite music... so whether or not i think he had a valid reason to have an emotional breakdown or wtv the fuck happened, it affected him in his own way... he paid a price to put that music out, and im thankful for all that... hes made some bad decisions, but has also made some very good ones, just like anyone else... and the fact that he gave us afd, lies, uyi 1&2 should at least be enough to show the guy some respect... the reason i want new music is cuz i liked CD, if i hadnt, i wouldnt be on here bashing it... id focus on the stuff i do like

Axl sounds and looks bad for his age. He's on his 50s right not on his 70s. But I agree with parts of your post. If only people also respected Slash and the classic band for their work (there wouldn't be New G n' R and concerts to go without those guys).

[volcano62]

I love this band, I'm just highly disappointed at what Axl does with it. I woulda gone to 1993 Hartford but my rents said I was too young and that I could go see 'em when they came back.

same with the montreal riot... i bitched for weeks to go, and gotta big fat "i told ya so" after the riot lol then had to wait till 2010 to see em again... i wont lie, that kinda pissed me off, but fuck man, look at how much great music theyve all given us... i think about that alot... im really greatful that we have the music we do have... do i wanna hear more ? fuck yeah ! but even if i never do, the music i do currently have from the band is reason enough to keep supporting them

Dude you were at the Montreal riot?

Me too

I was pissed at the time but looking back I was part of GNR history.

2012 Roseland, 2011 Hartford, 2006 Jersey, 2006 NYC, 2002 Hartford.

Aren't you from South America? Anyone that was see them live would not have your point of view.

agreed... metropolis was fuckin awesome !

@ OP - whens the last time you saw GNR live ? (youtube doesnt count)

Metropolis was EPIC

I'm from North America LOL. Like You, but in the non Canada Part.

Cool wtf why did I think you're from South America?

Anyway don't worry bro new music will come out also the bluray

Maybe it was the eyeliner pic? Lol. I hope so... All I want is for Axl to try just a little harder with this GNR thing.

The eyeliner pic was part of mygnr just like Andre's gay porn pic

[Thelonious]

OP, you have presented a false dichotomy fallacy. It isn't black or white, nor A or B.

I was concerned when Adler was fired, then I started losing interest when Izzy left, and then "The Spaghetti Incident" further eroded my support. When Chicken Bucket was hired, I concluded that the franchise had become a joke.

Edited August 1, 2013 by Thelonious

[Hollywood Gunner]

were the 11-12 shows what made you turn on the band ?

In a sense Yes... Axl is no longer giving it his all.

well judging from what i saw 2 and a half weeks ago, he is... hes in his fucking 50's lol obviously people slow down with age... just cuz he doesnt sound or act the same as he did in his 20's or 30's does not mean hes not giving it his all... anyone who likes the old stuff doesnt have to support what hes doing now, but its reason enough to show the guy a bit of respect, cuz he gave us alot... and he went through alot of mental aguish to do so... some people say boo-fuckin-hoo about his personal problems and dont agree with the way hes done things, but fact of the matter is, he created and performed some of our favorite music... so whether or not i think he had a valid reason to have an emotional breakdown or wtv the fuck happened, it affected him in his own way... he paid a price to put that music out, and im thankful for all that... hes made some bad decisions, but has also made some very good ones, just like anyone else... and the fact that he gave us afd, lies, uyi 1&2 should at least be enough to show the guy some respect... the reason i want new music is cuz i liked CD, if i hadnt, i wouldnt be on here bashing it... id focus on the stuff i do like

Axl sounds and looks bad for his age. He's on his 50s right not on his 70s. But I agree with parts of your post. If only people also respected Slash and the classic band for their work (there wouldn't be New G n' R and concerts to go without those guys).

i totally respect slash, duff, izzy and even steven... man if steven were playing some small bar in my area, id go... because i respect and appreciate what he went through to bring us afd... and maybe he hasnt aged as well as some other celebrities, but i can think of tons of other poeple that aged worse... fuck this just came to mind but... he looks better now than kurt cobain looked in his prime lol

[GNR123GNR456]

I still like the band, don't get me wrong. I still want them to succeed, I still want Axl to succeed. But, it's hard to want Axl to succeed when it seems like Axl himself doesn't want to succeed and wants to be downgraded to a nostalgia act playing to casual fans who don't give two shit's about the new band. Why did Axl make this new band, to tour the world playing the hit's that the man he refers to as a "cancer" helped co-write and make famous? To have a band where one of them is obviously annoyed about the lack of production this band has made?

It all started at Rock In Rio 2011 where I found out Axl's true intention's were: to be a nostalgia act and piss away everything that was the potential of a great band. Compare that to Rock In Rio 2001 when Axl was firing on all cylinder's, we had new music, and a album to look forward to plus the intrigue of the new band. Now, what's there to look forward to? New music that probably won't come out, continuous touring with a out of shape Axl Rose? Hell, what's going on with the Vegas DVD?

[magisme]

For the obvious reasons. CD was disappointing. Shows are getting steadily worse and more predictable. No new music on the horizon.

[Crash Diet]

I don't hate the band. Sometimes I will make fun of them, yes. But I don't hate them. It's just that I'm extremely disappointed. That's all.

this

plus the endless tour and Axl's vocals, lack of new music really gives me a headache... (only when i come here and nothing happened, but hey this is what NewGNR is all about : )

Edited August 1, 2013 by Crash Diet

[WhazUp]

I still like the band, don't get me wrong. I still want them to succeed, I still want Axl to succeed. But, it's hard to want Axl to succeed when it seems like Axl himself doesn't want to succeed and wants to be downgraded to a nostalgia act playing to casual fans who don't give two shit's about the new band. Why did Axl make this new band, to tour the world playing the hit's that the man he refers to as a "cancer" helped co-write and make famous? To have a band where one of them is obviously annoyed about the lack of production this band has made?

It all started at Rock In Rio 2011 where I found out Axl's true intention's were: to be a nostalgia act and piss away everything that was the potential of a great band. Compare that to Rock In Rio 2001 when Axl was firing on all cylinder's, we had new music, and a album to look forward to plus the intrigue of the new band. Now, what's there to look forward to? New music that probably won't come out, continuous touring with a out of shape Axl Rose? Hell, what's going on with the Vegas DVD?

Great post, I share the same sentiments as you. Edited August 1, 2013 by WhazUp