Frozen Inferno Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 ^ youtube awesome.But unfortunately if the video gets taken down on the H-D website than it'll also be taken off youtube *tear* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxy Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 dont really fit but awsomeAgreed! This studio version feels over-produced..it will take some time to get use to it compared to all the live versions of Better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinckFortus Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 that was not a studio version it yes it was, there's no way harley would use a leak, and there's no way anyone connected to gnr is stupid enough to put unfinished material in an advert.Exactly. Why would Harley Davidson use a leaked track? That would be a huge breach of copyright, I'm sure.Even if it hasn't changed since the leak, this is an official track that probably won't change before the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potbreath Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I am disappointed in the song because it sounds almost identical to the leak. His voice is not that good in the studio anymore. Go listen to old studio tunes like "ycbm" and come back and tell me if Axl's new studio voice does it justice?? Better= generic . THis is what happens when you spend to much time in the studio trying to hard . Another thing about the song that I don't like are the transitions. I didn't mind it when it was on the demo becaue i figured it was a work in progress but when I heard them play it lve and there wasn't any change to it I was very disappointed . All of a sudden Velvet Revolver's credibility went up. Atleast they didn't take 10 yrs to record their shitty album .yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmygod Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 fucking great everything, im really pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Dick Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 another thread meant to be negative and indirectly put down the band because they can't stand the fact certain people are no longer there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tat2d1 Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 You obviously don't know the difference of "actually being in commercial selling cars" and a band promoting a record!Where in there does that promote GNR's new album? It is cool the song is in the commercial, but I didn't hear nor see anything about a new GNR album. Did I miss something. I thought it was just letting Harley use the song to try and sell motorcycles? I thought we were supposed to be against whoring out the music for commercial purposes?You're right Naupis. I didn't see any promo for the cd in that commercial. Really though, i don't see what the big deal is about doing commercials. It's no worse than the countless list of musicians that have done GAP commercials (aerosmith, for instance), Alice Cooper doing Ramada Inn commercials. These guys got into the business for 2 reasons- to make music and MONEY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Smiley Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 ya i saw this commercial on tv and i was like WTF and then i was like no way and then i new it was starting to happen. I'll tell you right now the publicy is starting to get up little by little and then you will see it advertised on alot of things and then offical dates for stuff. WOOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I think it's the same as the leak with a few additions, and some remixing of the vocal track. There's a couple layers added, the vocals are louder and the guitar is softer.I don't think it's all that different. The drumming at the start still sounds like a machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 When I heard the first leaks of Better, my reaction to it was iffy as well. Then the full leak came, with the heavy part, and my opinion of the song changed quite significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naupis Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I think it's the same as the leak with a few additions, and some remixing of the vocal track. There's a couple layers added, the vocals are louder and the guitar is softer.I don't think it's all that different. The drumming at the start still sounds like a machine.I think we are going to realize when the album's released that those "leaks" management put out there were alot closer to a finished product than alot of people would like to believe. We all wrote off any weakness to "oh its just a demo", but I think that those were a very very good idea of what the finished product was going to be. Better is not tremendously different other than it is obviously more refined and cleaned up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I think we are going to realize when the album's released that those "leaks" management put out there were alot closer to a finished product than alot of people would like to believe.Exactly. They always sounded very close to the finished product.This clip they're using in the ad sounds a bit 'crisper' than the leaked demo, but I might just be imagining it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max™ Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 The track is so different to the leak. You guys must have dodgy soundcards/speakers. I can clearly hear the difference between the two - the main and most noticable one being the drums, which seem to have been completely redone. There is an element of crispness to everything that the leak didn't have, and some parts are sounding different in general.Pretty fucking swish. If you say this is the leak you had - face it, you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I think it's the same as the leak with a few additions, and some remixing of the vocal track. There's a couple layers added, the vocals are louder and the guitar is softer.I don't think it's all that different. The drumming at the start still sounds like a machine.I think we are going to realize when the album's released that those "leaks" management put out there were alot closer to a finished product than alot of people would like to believe. We all wrote off any weakness to "oh its just a demo", but I think that those were a very very good idea of what the finished product was going to be. Better is not tremendously different other than it is obviously more refined and cleaned up.I think you're very right here. When they played the songs live, that was probably our biggest indication of this.I think we are going to realize when the album's released that those "leaks" management put out there were alot closer to a finished product than alot of people would like to believe.Exactly. They always sounded very close to the finished product.This clip they're using in the ad sounds a bit 'crisper' than the leaked demo, but I might just be imagining it.The demos were always a bit muddy. They were low quality... I've gotten used to listening to remastered versions of them that don't really sound all that different to what we have here.The track is so different to the leak. You guys must have dodgy soundcards/speakers. I can clearly hear the difference between the two - the main and most noticable one being the drums, which seem to have been completely redone. There is an element of crispness to everything that the leak didn't have, and some parts are sounding different in general.Pretty fucking swish. If you say this is the leak you had - face it, you are wrong.Not saying it was the leak. We're saying that it's not much different to the leak, and that parts of the leak are still there.I suspect that much of the vocal track is the same - just in clearer quality, louder, and layered better in a few parts. The end sounds a little different as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serg Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 Holy crap that was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS_PoWeR Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 You would think Axl is aspiring to go the way of Bon Jovi or something. Poppy tunes in TV commercials. I wonder if that is going to be viewed as a sell-out or not if this is a large ad-campaign for the company. To think it was only a couple weeks ago a former GNR icon was being crucified for doing a similar thing.You obviously don't know the difference of "actually being in commercial selling cars" and a band promoting a record!playing ignored and dumb might be the one I think! Yeah, even Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones have had their songs in commercials. No biggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS_PoWeR Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 That's what it's like "out there." Most people, former fans or not, have a very cautious or negative attitude towards new GNR.....Which is why PROMOTION is so important! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irs Better Catcher in the Twat Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 You would think Axl is aspiring to go the way of Bon Jovi or something. Poppy tunes in TV commercials. I wonder if that is going to be viewed as a sell-out or not if this is a large ad-campaign for the company. To think it was only a couple weeks ago a former GNR icon was being crucified for doing a similar thing.You obviously don't know the difference of "actually being in commercial selling cars" and a band promoting a record!playing ignored and dumb might be the one I think! Yeah, even Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones have had their songs in commercials. No biggie.yep, led zeppelin also. i dont see the big deal about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 ....Which is why PROMOTION is so important!I think GnR management are waiting for a set date, then we'll see an avalanche of marketing/promotion. This ad was obviously meant to be part of it.The only explanation as to why these info leaks are being deleted over at HTGTH is that "somebody jumped the gun". My guess is that things will start rolling pretty soon. Maybe the 24th?.. seems the most logical.Fuck knows why they're waiting, but, yeah, I'm actually pretty excited. Just hope it doesn't turn into another let-down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EccoTides Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 The track is so different to the leak. You guys must have dodgy soundcards/speakers. I can clearly hear the difference between the two - the main and most noticable one being the drums, which seem to have been completely redone. There is an element of crispness to everything that the leak didn't have, and some parts are sounding different in general.Pretty fucking swish. If you say this is the leak you had - face it, you are wrong.Pretty much. The drums do sound fantastic in the studio cut though, much better than the ones buried in the demo's mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthisriver Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 You would think Axl is aspiring to go the way of Bon Jovi or something. Poppy tunes in TV commercials. I wonder if that is going to be viewed as a sell-out or not if this is a large ad-campaign for the company. To think it was only a couple weeks ago a former GNR icon was being crucified for doing a similar thing.You obviously don't know the difference of "actually being in commercial selling cars" and a band promoting a record!playing ignored and dumb might be the one I think! Yeah, even Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones have had their songs in commercials. No biggie.yep, led zeppelin also. i dont see the big deal about itand the Beatles. Like a million times.On topic. Cool commercial.Tbizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Wheel Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 another thread meant to be negative and indirectly put down the band because they can't stand the fact certain people are no longer there. uhh what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackamo! Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 another thread meant to be negative and indirectly put down the band because they can't stand the fact certain people are no longer there. uhh what?never mind him, he's a sour puss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyrie Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 I noticed this video is not standard 4:3 TV format. So either it's just web only, or it'll be letterboxed for the TV airplay.Someone already reported seeing it on TV. Dunno if that was legit or not.P.S. Nice to see there's a forum where was can talk about a commerical everyone's seen with a song we've heard for months and months that has been played live.Censorship sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Wheel Posted October 21, 2006 Share Posted October 21, 2006 (edited) another thread meant to be negative and indirectly put down the band because they can't stand the fact certain people are no longer there. uhh what?never mind him, he's a sour puss.oh I know I just wanted to know where in the "meaning of the thread" or "what the thread meant to be" was there any intent by the original maker of the thread to bash the bandI mean is he talking about the possibility that some of the posts and replys might have an opinion that differs him which is accepted on this board as long as it's not "This blowz!!11" and as long as the person states why he doesn't and is critical in an adult manner? I've actually only seen adult like conversation in this thread. But nonetheless, I don't think what was meant by the THREAD, maybe just the POSTS were of any intent to bash the band.Unless he is referring to Red Europe who is only trying to show his displeasure with the band in his own witty, childish way by referring to other non-GNR and even non-music boards for their opinions. Quit frankly, Red Europe's argument about this song not being good is very weak and shouldn't even be responded to. Edited October 21, 2006 by 3rd Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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