ags_rule Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I'm just wondering, has Axl ever actually hit that high note in 'IRS' at a concert before? I still consider it one of the most impressive vocal sections I've ever heard in any song, although I'm don't know if Axl hit that note without the use of some sort of editing on the demo, considering the fact he never seems to hit it or even try to hit it at concerts, or at least the ones that I've heard.Maybe it's the reason why 'There Was A Time' is never played live? It has a big section with nothing buy high notes near the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budweiser Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 If you think that any part of IRS is the most impressive vocal sections you've ever heard in any song... You need to get out more.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesy Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 It's basically the same high note as in Paradise City. He can definitely hit those now. Back in the day, he couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 (edited) ok,axl never hit that high note in i.r.s or even tried to hit it before the solo in the end, but in the demo he IS hitting in withoutno editing help... in manchester I believe, he didn't hit that note but he held it in a lower octave and thatmy friend, was impresive...i'm sure he can hit it but remember he has to sing for 2 hours in a show...he just picks his moments(smart singing) Edited October 24, 2006 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraMav Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 The day that Axl cheats his way to high notes via software is the day my soul finally dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesseli Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 The day that Axl cheats his way to high notes via software is the day my soul finally dies.seriously, i almost cried with your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraMav Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Well I.R.S. is usually played near the end of the show and after 2 hours it's probably pretty straining to hit that high note. Could Axl ever do that even in his twenties? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 (edited) I agree, that high F sharp he hits right before Buckethead's solo is spine tingling...and it lasts for ages!! I just don't think he's able to do it live without blowing out his voice for the rest of the show, pity Monty Edited October 24, 2006 by BLSMonty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraMav Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 (edited) You honestly think he's cheating on I.R.S. Fatness? I mean it's pretty obvious to me he just sings better in the studio. One song is a lot easier to be perfect on than a 2 1/2 hour setlist. Edited October 24, 2006 by Mav23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannon21 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 MAybe a little trouble with the high notes in IRS, but he NAILED the end of TWAT at Hammerstein.KAnnon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Axl Kev Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 MAybe a little trouble with the high notes in IRS, but he NAILED the end of TWAT at Hammerstein.KAnnon.Yeah he fuckin' belted it out when they played that! It was spine-tingling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraMav Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 (edited) You honestly think he's cheating on I.R.S. Fatness? I mean it's pretty obvious to me he just sings better in the studio. One song is a lot easier to be perfect on than a 2 1/2 hour setlist.It's obvious to you that he sings better in the studio, huh? So why do you think that is?I don't think of it as cheating. That's just the new style of Axl's sound. Processed, recorded seperately, over dubbed, tweaked and polished to his liking. But that's the times, I guess. Just listen to that Hoobastank douche live vs. on an album.It's not that he sounds a little better in the studio. He sounds COMPLETELY different. Way better. Way stronger. He hits notes on the album that he won't even try live. Just listen to his scream at the last VMA's. Sounded like a 12-year-old girl. Then listen to "I never wanted you to be so full of anger..."Honestly, what do you think they're doing in the studio for 14 years? Playing cards?Oh I'm confident that he layers his vocals and sings parts seperately then splices them together and all that, I was referring to actually digitally tweaking recordings of his voice, I don't think he does that unless it's an obvious thing for effect like on the UYIs. I was saying I would be disheartened if he tried to pass off a digitally tweaked vocal as a legit, unaltered voice. Edited October 24, 2006 by Mav23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I never wanted you to be so full of shit...hisroyalfatness...have you heard the heavy part in better performed live? axl nailed that part...what are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bax Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 He definitely sounds better in the studio. That may be because he does a million takes per song until he nails it or it could be done with a digital pitch-shifting effect. Digital recording technology has advanced to the point that we'll never know, but I have heard quite a few bootlegs from this tour and I have not heard him hit that note once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackamo! Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I always considered his live voice rather weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsnrosesrfreak Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 wat bout sustainin his voice in irs?do u really wanna believe axl jus copy pastes his scream to make it more lengthy?its special cuz he was able to hold it for so long, else the whole point of the scream is lost had he just used technology to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrettyTiedUp763 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Okay, obviously everything from the studio is better. He gets as many chances as he wants to perfect his voice. I.R.S. comes at the end of concerts so he may just be tired or he wants to save his voice for the rest of the songs. He only gets one shot when he is live. Either way, I think his voice is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demon Wolf Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 As of now, he sounds very powerful live. I agree he wasn't good in Rock In Rio, but in Rock Am Ring for example... OMG.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldp3Bs7X9L4...ted&search=Better again, although WAY better. Much more force. He nailed I.R.S pretty good from the same show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griip Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 First off, as just said, check out Rock Am Ring.. weak voice? Pffft.. And, seriously.. better voice in the studio? Compared to who? He's one of the few singers out there that from time to time beats his studio recordings by far at live performances. I agree though that he doesn't have the same strength in his voice as he had in the 80s, that's easy to hear when you listen to different WTTJ performances. Like 9 out of 10 singers can't come near their studio recordings live , Axl is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artfromtex Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 anyone remember when Axl was on Eddie Trunk and Baz asked Axl about Pro-Tools being cheating? Axl: "What do you mean?" i thought he sounded a bit defensive about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longpig Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 The scream in IRS isn't done "justice" live because it's a pretty hard song to sing live and I think it's more the fact he is - not out of breath - but can't hold a not that long.Like say YCBM - when did he ever get near the long scream on the UYI tour?!! That's right never. The over-dubbed Live Era was how he obviously wanted it (like the album version), but he didn't get near it live. In fact he does a better job in the concerts nowadays than he did back in 'the day'.I think it's exactly the same with IRS. It's not that his voice is shot or it's lost power or any of that horse shit.So everyone stop talking shit and realise it's a hard thing to do because there's no real time to get your breathing 'normal' before attempting that note in IRS. Especially after running about for 2 hours.In the studio he has lots of time to have a break before singing "you know it's truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue yeah, yeah" so of course it sounds better on record. As do most singers.LP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.drummin Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 IRS is great live. No need for critisism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griip Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Just watching IRS from Rock Am Ring(on the third time in a row now ) and shit.. I LOVE the scream between the "private eye" and IRS, especially about 03:10.. fucking awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
There Was A Fine Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 your all fucking idiotswho ever said axls using pitch modifiers or what ever, GO TO FUCKING HELLlisten to the scream at the end,that is live and axl fucking kills the high noteListenSO GO TO HELL AXL DOUBTERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsnrosesrfreak Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 well the question really is, does axl really scream that long, in that bit before the solo or has it been tweaked up a lil bit to make it lengthy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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