Charlierose Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 I would say Axl wasnt happy at the idea of having buckethead on the album after he shafted guns when he left. Im sure the delay is just bumblefoot putting his guitaring in place of bucket of bolts,... Ron's a great guy, im glad he got a chance to actully be on the album. No man can play a fretles guitar like him. ive tried and its damn near impossible... Bumblefoot rocks and he has a great personality which buckethead definately did not. Buckets career might as well be over now cause all loyal GNR fans think hes a dickhead for quiting and leaving his band in the lurch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 I'm sure bbf said he joined too late and that isn't on cd.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manstis1604 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 I would say Axl wasnt happy at the idea of having buckethead on the album after he shafted guns when he left. Im sure the delay is just bumblefoot putting his guitaring in place of bucket of bolts,... Ron's a great guy, im glad he got a chance to actully be on the album. No man can play a fretles guitar like him. ive tried and its damn near impossible... Bumblefoot rocks and he has a great personality which buckethead definately did not. Buckets career might as well be over now cause all loyal GNR fans think hes a dickhead for quiting and leaving his band in the lurch...Ohh noo, the loyal GNR fans don't like Buckethead, he's fucked!!!! Uh, pretty sure Buckethead has a pretty different target audience than GNR fans. Have you heard his solo stuff and his band Praxis? He's better off without GNR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bax Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 I'm sure bbf said he joined too late and that isn't on cd..He said that several times, but the Del James article said he and Frank were doing some recording. Who knows at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicious Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 no buckethead rocksblame Axl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I'm sure bbf said he joined too late and that isn't on cd..He said that several times, but the Del James article said he and Frank were doing some recording. Who knows at this point?i thought del said bbf and frank played some songs that'll appear on cd, meanin they rehearsed some songs..i.e if the world and prostitute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busngabb Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I agree with most of that.Buckethead is a dick and could never come close to bbf in terms of fitting in with GNR. Chicken face was a great guitarist but reduced the bands credibility to a minus figure.I'd have no problem with the guy if he'd just take the damn get up off and let his playing talk for him, rather than his halloween costume. His fans will come on and claim he does that so he can let his art do the talking, but thats true, he wouldn't have needed a gimmick in the first place.bbf is better at a lot of the technical aspects he uses than Bucket is too, although I'd say he was better overall.But in GNR, it's bbf by plenty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunzen Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 (edited) I would say Axl wasnt happy at the idea of having buckethead on the album after he shafted guns when he left. Im sure the delay is just bumblefoot putting his guitaring in place of bucket of bolts,... Ron's a great guy, im glad he got a chance to actully be on the album. No man can play a fretles guitar like him. ive tried and its damn near impossible... Bumblefoot rocks and he has a great personality which buckethead definately did not. Buckets career might as well be over now cause all loyal GNR fans think hes a dickhead for quiting and leaving his band in the lurch...Actually I dont give a shit if he pissed in Axl's mercedes, I like Buckethead. Most fans of his probobly dont care either. He has quite a large body of work sans GNR, Jump Man is my fav. No disrespect dude, just GNR does not define Buckethead, the Bucket Does? Edited November 11, 2006 by Gunzen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingarthur Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 (edited) I agree with most of that.Buckethead is a dick and could never come close to bbf in terms of fitting in with GNR. Chicken face was a great guitarist but reduced the bands credibility to a minus figure.I'd have no problem with the guy if he'd just take the damn get up off and let his playing talk for him, rather than his halloween costume. His fans will come on and claim he does that so he can let his art do the talking, but thats true, he wouldn't have needed a gimmick in the first place.bbf is better at a lot of the technical aspects he uses than Bucket is too, although I'd say he was better overall.But in GNR, it's bbf by plenty...Do you play guitar? Do you work in the industry? Do you know anything about guitar playing and the guitar community? I agree Buckethead was not a good fit for GNR, but do not say that Bumblefoot is better at ANY aspects of guitar playing than Buckethead. Seriously dude, that is so far from the truth. Ask any credible guitar player or guitar virtuoso about Buckethead. Trust me on this... He is really THAT GOOD. Buckethead is so good that people can't grasp it. I am not going to start comparing guitarist for a number of reasons. Any intermediate guitar player can play the entire GNR catalogue. I defy those same guitarists to even play 95% of what Buckethead does. He does stuff that he does not even get credit for because no one knows what he is doing, and/or they think it is something done through skillfull engineering. Buckethead uses guitar set-ups that would confuse almost every guitarist. I think Bumblefoot is a great guitarist and a stand-up guy. Buckethead is a PHENOMINAL guitarist. His technical abilites piss on some of the greatest of guitarists. Buckethead plays some of the most difficult music you will ever see in your life. If Bucket is not on the CD it will suffer unimaginably. Comparing Bumblefoot to Buckethead is just not right. I am sure Ron would agree with me on this. There is a reason Buckethead "stupid mask and bucket and all", are so highly regarded despite his rediculous appearance. This should tell you something...... Edited November 11, 2006 by smokingarthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bax Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I'm sure bbf said he joined too late and that isn't on cd..He said that several times, but the Del James article said he and Frank were doing some recording. Who knows at this point?i thought del said bbf and frank played some songs that'll appear on cd, meanin they rehearsed some songs..i.e if the world and prostitute?The exact quote from the artcle:"Recently, Bumblefoot and Frank played on a few tracks that will appear on Chinese Democacy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busngabb Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I agree with most of that.Buckethead is a dick and could never come close to bbf in terms of fitting in with GNR. Chicken face was a great guitarist but reduced the bands credibility to a minus figure.I'd have no problem with the guy if he'd just take the damn get up off and let his playing talk for him, rather than his halloween costume. His fans will come on and claim he does that so he can let his art do the talking, but thats true, he wouldn't have needed a gimmick in the first place.bbf is better at a lot of the technical aspects he uses than Bucket is too, although I'd say he was better overall.But in GNR, it's bbf by plenty...Do you play guitar? Do you work in the industry? Do you know anything about guitar playing and the guitar community? I agree Buckethead was not a good fit for GNR, but do not say that Bumblefoot is better at ANY aspects of guitar playing than Buckethead. Seriously dude, that is so far from the truth. Ask any credible guitar player or guitar virtuoso about Buckethead. Trust me on this... He is really THAT GOOD. Buckethead is so good that people can't grasp it. I am not going to start comparing guitarist for a number of reasons. Any intermediate guitar player can play the entire GNR catalogue. I defy those same guitarists to even play 95% of what Buckethead does. He does stuff that he does not even get credit for because no one knows what he is doing, and/or they think it is something done through skillfull engineering. Buckethead uses guitar set-ups that would confuse almost every guitarist. I think Bumblefoot is a great guitarist and a stand-up guy. Buckethead is a PHENOMINAL guitarist. His technical abilites piss on some of the greatest of guitarists. Buckethead plays some of the most difficult music you will ever see in your life. If Bucket is not on the CD it will suffer unimaginably. Comparing Bumblefoot to Buckethead is just not right. I am sure Ron would agree with me on this. There is a reason Buckethead "stupid mask and bucket and all", are so highly regarded despite his rediculous appearance. This should tell you something......Yep great guitarist, but he'll die a nobody. Le freak ain't chic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadlaser Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 (edited) I agree with most of that.Buckethead is a dick and could never come close to bbf in terms of fitting in with GNR. Chicken face was a great guitarist but reduced the bands credibility to a minus figure.I'd have no problem with the guy if he'd just take the damn get up off and let his playing talk for him, rather than his halloween costume. His fans will come on and claim he does that so he can let his art do the talking, but thats true, he wouldn't have needed a gimmick in the first place.bbf is better at a lot of the technical aspects he uses than Bucket is too, although I'd say he was better overall.But in GNR, it's bbf by plenty...Do you play guitar? Do you work in the industry? Do you know anything about guitar playing and the guitar community? I agree Buckethead was not a good fit for GNR, but do not say that Bumblefoot is better at ANY aspects of guitar playing than Buckethead. Seriously dude, that is so far from the truth. Ask any credible guitar player or guitar virtuoso about Buckethead. Trust me on this... He is really THAT GOOD. Buckethead is so good that people can't grasp it. I am not going to start comparing guitarist for a number of reasons. Any intermediate guitar player can play the entire GNR catalogue. I defy those same guitarists to even play 95% of what Buckethead does. He does stuff that he does not even get credit for because no one knows what he is doing, and/or they think it is something done through skillfull engineering. Buckethead uses guitar set-ups that would confuse almost every guitarist. I think Bumblefoot is a great guitarist and a stand-up guy. Buckethead is a PHENOMINAL guitarist. His technical abilites piss on some of the greatest of guitarists. Buckethead plays some of the most difficult music you will ever see in your life. If Bucket is not on the CD it will suffer unimaginably. Comparing Bumblefoot to Buckethead is just not right. I am sure Ron would agree with me on this. There is a reason Buckethead "stupid mask and bucket and all", are so highly regarded despite his rediculous appearance. This should tell you something......not many (good) guitarists are gonna agree with you on that... i can pull off most of buckets tricks, short of 7 and 8 finger tapping (and i don't care to learn, because it sounds like random shit), i'd say i could pull of 80% of his shit, big sur moon is actually REALLY easy. BBF is a totally different story, his solos are so frantic, they're close to impossible to learn, whereas bucket recycles his riffs much more. he does the triplet legato pull off on 2 strings riff for almost EVERY solo, he's still good, but not even in my top 10.Oh, and BBF confirmed he WILL be on some tracks. Edited November 11, 2006 by quadlaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketbot101 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 (edited) I would say Axl wasnt happy at the idea of having buckethead on the album after he shafted guns when he left. Im sure the delay is just bumblefoot putting his guitaring in place of bucket of bolts,... Ron's a great guy, im glad he got a chance to actully be on the album. No man can play a fretles guitar like him. ive tried and its damn near impossible... Bumblefoot rocks and he has a great personality which buckethead definately did not. Buckets career might as well be over now cause all loyal GNR fans think hes a dickhead for quiting and leaving his band in the lurch...Bucket is the best guitarist to ever play with GnR,Period. he can beat anyone on anything, end of story. If u wanna blame the release on him, go ahead, but u are wrong and Bucket doesnt care and neither do his fans here. I dont think Ron OR Frank will be on Chinese Democracy, the del james thing merely implies they have rehearsed those songs, not re-recorded the parts. When are u people gonna see past the gimmick and recognise the genuine talent? Axl wanted Bucket for a reason, people. Dont forget!EDIT:: Man i didnt do too bad with this messege, considering i was so wasted i dont even remember writing it Edited November 11, 2006 by bucketbot101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar_legend Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I would say Axl wasnt happy at the idea of having buckethead on the album after he shafted guns when he left. Im sure the delay is just bumblefoot putting his guitaring in place of bucket of boltsI don't know how it works but could BH get some royalty for having his parts on the album? Probably explains why Ron's recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRrocks3 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I Buckethead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsfury Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I agree with most of that.Buckethead is a dick and could never come close to bbf in terms of fitting in with GNR. Chicken face was a great guitarist but reduced the bands credibility to a minus figure.I'd have no problem with the guy if he'd just take the damn get up off and let his playing talk for him, rather than his halloween costume. His fans will come on and claim he does that so he can let his art do the talking, but thats true, he wouldn't have needed a gimmick in the first place.bbf is better at a lot of the technical aspects he uses than Bucket is too, although I'd say he was better overall.But in GNR, it's bbf by plenty...Do you play guitar? Do you work in the industry? Do you know anything about guitar playing and the guitar community? I agree Buckethead was not a good fit for GNR, but do not say that Bumblefoot is better at ANY aspects of guitar playing than Buckethead. Seriously dude, that is so far from the truth. Ask any credible guitar player or guitar virtuoso about Buckethead. Trust me on this... He is really THAT GOOD. Buckethead is so good that people can't grasp it. I am not going to start comparing guitarist for a number of reasons. Any intermediate guitar player can play the entire GNR catalogue. I defy those same guitarists to even play 95% of what Buckethead does. He does stuff that he does not even get credit for because no one knows what he is doing, and/or they think it is something done through skillfull engineering. Buckethead uses guitar set-ups that would confuse almost every guitarist. I think Bumblefoot is a great guitarist and a stand-up guy. Buckethead is a PHENOMINAL guitarist. His technical abilites piss on some of the greatest of guitarists. Buckethead plays some of the most difficult music you will ever see in your life. If Bucket is not on the CD it will suffer unimaginably. Comparing Bumblefoot to Buckethead is just not right. I am sure Ron would agree with me on this. There is a reason Buckethead "stupid mask and bucket and all", are so highly regarded despite his rediculous appearance. This should tell you something......not many (good) guitarists are gonna agree with you on that... i can pull off most of buckets tricks, short of 7 and 8 finger tapping (and i don't care to learn, because it sounds like random shit), i'd say i could pull of 80% of his shit, big sur moon is actually REALLY easy. BBF is a totally different story, his solos are so frantic, they're close to impossible to learn, whereas bucket recycles his riffs much more. he does the triplet legato pull off on 2 strings riff for almost EVERY solo, he's still good, but not even in my top 10.Oh, and BBF confirmed he WILL be on some tracks. What does the triplet legato pull off on 2 strings sound like? Can you reference anything from the 2002 recordings in concert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_l Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I agree with most of that.Buckethead is a dick and could never come close to bbf in terms of fitting in with GNR. Chicken face was a great guitarist but reduced the bands credibility to a minus figure.I'd have no problem with the guy if he'd just take the damn get up off and let his playing talk for him, rather than his halloween costume. His fans will come on and claim he does that so he can let his art do the talking, but thats true, he wouldn't have needed a gimmick in the first place.bbf is better at a lot of the technical aspects he uses than Bucket is too, although I'd say he was better overall.But in GNR, it's bbf by plenty...Do you play guitar? Do you work in the industry? Do you know anything about guitar playing and the guitar community? I agree Buckethead was not a good fit for GNR, but do not say that Bumblefoot is better at ANY aspects of guitar playing than Buckethead. Seriously dude, that is so far from the truth. Ask any credible guitar player or guitar virtuoso about Buckethead. Trust me on this... He is really THAT GOOD. Buckethead is so good that people can't grasp it. I am not going to start comparing guitarist for a number of reasons. Any intermediate guitar player can play the entire GNR catalogue. I defy those same guitarists to even play 95% of what Buckethead does. He does stuff that he does not even get credit for because no one knows what he is doing, and/or they think it is something done through skillfull engineering. Buckethead uses guitar set-ups that would confuse almost every guitarist. I think Bumblefoot is a great guitarist and a stand-up guy. Buckethead is a PHENOMINAL guitarist. His technical abilites piss on some of the greatest of guitarists. Buckethead plays some of the most difficult music you will ever see in your life. If Bucket is not on the CD it will suffer unimaginably. Comparing Bumblefoot to Buckethead is just not right. I am sure Ron would agree with me on this. There is a reason Buckethead "stupid mask and bucket and all", are so highly regarded despite his rediculous appearance. This should tell you something......not many (good) guitarists are gonna agree with you on that... i can pull off most of buckets tricks, short of 7 and 8 finger tapping (and i don't care to learn, because it sounds like random shit), i'd say i could pull of 80% of his shit, big sur moon is actually REALLY easy. BBF is a totally different story, his solos are so frantic, they're close to impossible to learn, whereas bucket recycles his riffs much more. he does the triplet legato pull off on 2 strings riff for almost EVERY solo, he's still good, but not even in my top 10.Oh, and BBF confirmed he WILL be on some tracks. Well I totally agree.. okay, I don't know anything of Quadlasers skills. But one thing's for sure. Buckethead ain't the only insane guitar player today. Bumble can probably play most of his stuff and he can with no doubt do some things bucket can't. But I think you missed the most important issue! Guns ain't about the most technical skill, mo-fo! Guns's about rock n' roll So.. if you wanna hear bucket solos or brain or maybe bumble solos or whatver. Go check out their solo work and don't confuse that with GnR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manstis1604 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I agree with most of that.Buckethead is a dick and could never come close to bbf in terms of fitting in with GNR. Chicken face was a great guitarist but reduced the bands credibility to a minus figure.I'd have no problem with the guy if he'd just take the damn get up off and let his playing talk for him, rather than his halloween costume. His fans will come on and claim he does that so he can let his art do the talking, but thats true, he wouldn't have needed a gimmick in the first place.bbf is better at a lot of the technical aspects he uses than Bucket is too, although I'd say he was better overall.But in GNR, it's bbf by plenty...Do you play guitar? Do you work in the industry? Do you know anything about guitar playing and the guitar community? I agree Buckethead was not a good fit for GNR, but do not say that Bumblefoot is better at ANY aspects of guitar playing than Buckethead. Seriously dude, that is so far from the truth. Ask any credible guitar player or guitar virtuoso about Buckethead. Trust me on this... He is really THAT GOOD. Buckethead is so good that people can't grasp it. I am not going to start comparing guitarist for a number of reasons. Any intermediate guitar player can play the entire GNR catalogue. I defy those same guitarists to even play 95% of what Buckethead does. He does stuff that he does not even get credit for because no one knows what he is doing, and/or they think it is something done through skillfull engineering. Buckethead uses guitar set-ups that would confuse almost every guitarist. I think Bumblefoot is a great guitarist and a stand-up guy. Buckethead is a PHENOMINAL guitarist. His technical abilites piss on some of the greatest of guitarists. Buckethead plays some of the most difficult music you will ever see in your life. If Bucket is not on the CD it will suffer unimaginably. Comparing Bumblefoot to Buckethead is just not right. I am sure Ron would agree with me on this. There is a reason Buckethead "stupid mask and bucket and all", are so highly regarded despite his rediculous appearance. This should tell you something......not many (good) guitarists are gonna agree with you on that... i can pull off most of buckets tricks, short of 7 and 8 finger tapping (and i don't care to learn, because it sounds like random shit), i'd say i could pull of 80% of his shit, big sur moon is actually REALLY easy. BBF is a totally different story, his solos are so frantic, they're close to impossible to learn, whereas bucket recycles his riffs much more. he does the triplet legato pull off on 2 strings riff for almost EVERY solo, he's still good, but not even in my top 10.Oh, and BBF confirmed he WILL be on some tracks. What does the triplet legato pull off on 2 strings sound like? Can you reference anything from the 2002 recordings in concert?Bumblefoot's solos are hard to learn because he's just playing like a psycho off the top of his head. Anybody with some chops can do that. Buckethead has something few of these shredder types have: taste. He understands how to develop things and be creative, not just jerkoff with his guitar. Bumble...just watch the video for Better, his playing at the end of that song is a travesty. I'd rather hear feedback, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dann Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 i really had my doubts about bumblefoot. however, when i saw him in worcester, i was quite impressed. he's a better player than slash, but he's not even in the same league as buckethead. i won't argue buckethead was a better fit for guns n roses. but to say bumblefoot is better in any way is absurd. bumblefoot is all about that new generation shred, the non-sense thats played super fast to sound really techy. i mean it's really not new, but has been the trend lately. but buckethead is a technical mastermind, and unless axl manages to land malmsteen, or bring segovia back from the dead and convince him to play electric, buckethead is going to be the best player the guns have ever had. and i don't really see the bucket as being that silly. nobody cares about shredders anymore. i mean, when have you ever heard anyone even mention dave martone? shred is boring to people who don't play. but strap a chicken bucket on your head you've got an act people will get behind. it was either the chicken bucket, or shredding to a drum beat on pro-tools after you work your 9-5 at home depot or whatever. i don't blame the guy in the slightest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 (edited) bass guitar solo = i prefer buckets playing anyday Edited November 11, 2006 by lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTHAFA Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 LOL @ Bumblefoot being better than Buckethead.Funny how Bucket wasn't a "good fit" for GNR because he's a jackass and a pretentious, self-aborbed freak.Uh.. does that mean Axl isn't a good fit for GNR?whatever happened to "nice boys don't play rock and roll".You guys want the "world's most dangerous band" on one hand, and on the other you want mr. fun bunch guitarist who replies to all your gay ass myspace messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlierose Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 bumblefoot is a top bloke and he deserves to be in GNR, Buckethead might be a great guitar player but id rather a guy with personality and someone who respects his fans. Sure u might say Axl dont care about his fans but i think axl has changed alot and respects his fans and goes out of his way now to not let us down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr-fukaji Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Buckets career might as well be over nowNice one, tell that to the people who've just watched him finish a two month tour of america, and the people who've bought the 10 or so cd's he's released since leaving GnR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I really like Buckethead even though he didn't quite fit the band and everyone called the band a freak show back then. Maybe the Goth-gimmick by Finck had something to do it too. Now the band looks like a normal rock band and it is fine by me but sometimes I miss Buckethead, especially the guitarsolo he did. It was actually fun to listen and not some random masturbation that bore the fuck out of the crowd. I have seen the MSG show 2002 where he plays his solo and the crowd cheers during some parts of the solo. I'd like too see if the crowd cheered last night at the MSG show when Thal, Finck and Fortus played their solos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobadog Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I don't see Buckethead as a dick. He is a great player, Gn'R simply wasn't for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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