Wando Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 (edited) The article is all bull shit. All he did was take the Jeff Leeds NY Times article, spruce it up, throw a spin around it and give it an approach from a different point of view. (mainly from Tom Zutaut's POV)Then the guy throws in a few tid bits from Axl's "open letter" and creates this illusion like it's a bonafide piece of news. What a bunch of crap. I'm also pretty sure the TWAT black and white video he was referring to was a fan made vid that ended up on YouTube. And...does anybody remember Axl talking to fans outside the gates of his mansion????? I don't think so.cybercurvesI agree, nothing new here, unless you are new to forums. I think anyone coud have written that. But thanks for it nonetheless, we appreciate anything written as long as it is truthful.Was that sarcasm? That article was just bullshit combined with real facts..And by the way, I don't appreciate everything written as long as it's truthful because in "internet-journalism" (which this wasn't but it applies here too because of the writer) it's common to twist the real facts and show only positive/negative side of them.. Edited January 1, 2007 by Wando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Interesting. Most of it was old news, but some of the stuff I hadn't heard about - e.g. Axl dragging Stephanie through broken glass by her feet, or his psychic escapades. I knew he had used a psychic for counseling and such, but I didn't realize that it was that bizarre...But that kind of sums up why Axl is the defining rock star. He got too rich, too wealthy and too everything too fast and too young - and it's kind of sad. You can see what the glitz, the fame, the glamor does to you - it cripples you, and it destroys you. Did it to Howard Hughes, did it to Michael Jackson.Axl's life would make a great movie biopic, especially in thirty years once the lawsuits are cleared and people actually start talking about this stuff more openly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnfnrhead Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 "Then he would turn to his computer and surf the internet at night for any mentions of his own name, occasionally posting cryptic messages himself." Axl are you here ? yes..... i mean no, no, shit, fuck, emmm BETA GET YOUR ASS OVER HERE QUICK!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where's izzy? Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 WOW. This article really makes Axl sound like a whack job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukinx Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 WOW. This article really makes Axl sound like a whack job.Well, isn't that one of the things we all love about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outagetme Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Wow, thats interesting. I can only wonder how much of that is true and how much of it is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caught in the Rye Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Funny how Brian May has had no problem sharing the info he knows about the project, even though according to this guy they had to sign all that shit. I definitely call this article into question. He starts off talking about how he has followed the band for a while, but the rest of the article makes him sound plain uneducated about the GN'R camp since the breakup.The fact that he is addressed in "Get In The Ring" makes me question it even more. You can't tell me this guy doesn't hold a grudge after being called out in a song like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bromle Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 This article shows that fiction and facts go hand in hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 no one takes this cd seriously, only the members on gnr forums, it will bomb big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jameslofton29 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 no one takes this cd seriously, only the members on gnr forums, it will bomb big time I've been saying that shit for along time. It will have good first week sales, and will then immediately nosedive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 if the sofware engineers got 13000 a monthhow much are the new members getting paid per month to produce nothing?i reckon any member of this band ( except axl) could walk into any uk store unrecognised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 (edited) Funny how Brian May has had no problem sharing the info he knows about the project, even though according to this guy they had to sign all that shit.Well, you can trivialize this stuff all you want, but it's documented that everyone involved with the project has had to sign documents. Not such a huge shock given the history of the album and its creator. There are lawsuits we are not aware of according to Axl; a lot of stuff going on "behind the scenes" that has prevented them from talking openly about the process.Brian May barely said anything, too - plus, right after it leaked, he responded by saying he didn't have time to address any of the letters about it, and he only vaguely recalled working on a handful of songs with Axl. A few weeks after the fact was when he finally said he had worked on Catcher in the Rye. Edited January 1, 2007 by Estranged Reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddergascar Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 no one takes this cd seriously, only the members on gnr forums, it will bomb big time I've been saying that shit for along time. It will have good first week sales, and will then immediately nosedive.The same can be said for many if not most releases by high profile established artists with a dedicated following. Even many which are critically acclaimed. The last NIN album, or Pearl Jam's. It doesn't mean they've been a failure.The more I read about Rose, the more i sympathise with him. he's just like me with more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakepit_uk Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 What was that thing about TWAT video on official site? Haven't seen it that was bullshit, quite a few thigns in the article were utter crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Yeah its full of inaccuracies and im sure alot of it is based on assumption. The TWAT video on the official site is a prime example, it was a fan made video that was posted on CD.com. Mick Wall needs to do his homework!JonxSeems like he just made shit up on his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axingn'r Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 (edited) Yeah its full of inaccuracies and im sure alot of it is based on assumption. The TWAT video on the official site is a prime example, it was a fan made video that was posted on CD.com. Mick Wall needs to do his homework!JonxSeems like he just made shit up on his ownHe's one of the best rock critics, nevertheless. I don't think he made shit up on his own. The mistake about the TWAT video is a detail : unlike us, Mick Wall isn't constantly logged into GNR related forums. Edited January 1, 2007 by Axingn'r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyRocks Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I feel he only wrote that to promote his book.. Nice little ending thereWAR: W Axl Rose – The Unauthorised Biography’ by Mick Wall (Sidgwick & Jackson, £16.99) is out in May And he wanted people to know he knew Axl Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axingn'r Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 However, most of the points made in Mick's article have all appeared in other publications in the past anyway -- such as Axl running over Todd Sullivan's CDs with his car (March 6, 2005 edition of the New York Times) and Sharon Maynard looking over pics for psychic inspection (May 2000 issue of RollingStone). Not sure why Mick didn't credit these publications or some other source for this info in the article.That's right. Some parts of Mick's article are "copy/paste" from these articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I feel he only wrote that to promote his book.. dry.gifNice little ending thereWAR: W Axl Rose – The Unauthorised Biography’ by Mick Wall (Sidgwick & Jackson, £16.99) is out in MayAnd he wanted people to know he knew Axl Rose.---I honestly thought until I read that that what Wall wrote WAS a promo for his book. The thing I hate is that I'm such a fucking fanboy that I"m going to go buy the goddamn book when it comes out. ---Most of the shit he said could be found in Paul Stenning's "The Band That Time Forgot." All the shit about Sharon "Yoda" Maynard, Buckethead's coop--all his weird shit that Axl's into now was there.I honestly think that was a book promo in poor disguise.But I'm still going to but it.~Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axingn'r Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 (edited) ---Most of the shit he said could be found in Paul Stenning's "The Band That Time Forgot." All the shit about Sharon "Yoda" Maynard, Buckethead's coop--all his weird shit that Axl's into now was there.That's where it comes from originally, imo : Rolling Stone, May 11th 2000 Edited January 1, 2007 by Axingn'r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November_rain Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Coming from Mick Wall I wouldn´t take it seriously. His "Sympathy" towards Axl is very well known plus he says things we had previously read in other articles.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Estranged Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I thought it was somewhat obvious that he was writing it to promote his upcoming book and why not? Also madison, its a magazine article why would he feel it necessary to reference everything? I mean its not an academic journal, no bibliography is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flabby phallus Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 The more I read about Rose, the more i sympathise with him. he's just like me with more money....and more talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November_rain Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 The more I read about Rose, the more i sympathise with him. he's just like me with more money....and more talent?Ha ha OWNED!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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