saulhudson88

Many count on the 'never say never' philosophy for GnR.

Maybe that goes for GnR.

But Axl ain´t GnR, and therefore, never will be.

you're right

But Robin and Bucket aren't even in the band anymore. New GNR is a group of interchangeable parts aside from Axl. Most people have no idea, nor do they care, who else is in the band.

though it must be a relief for the crowds to see the current band has a guitarist with a top hat, smoke dangling from the lips and a les paul...

Hahahaha, you can't blame them. They simple want to be the best GN'R coverband there is, so yes the also have the copy the old members by their clothes and trademarks

If Slash had done this you guys would be shitting bricks about $LA$H SELLOUT. Double standards are fucking ridiculous.

you become a sellout when you do shit like this all the time ($LA$H) instead of once

Atleast Slash loves to play gigs under his own name and doesn't hide in his mansion when he is not touring.

Can't say that of Axl, who will dissappear for numerous years than suddenly does an AFD tour (round 3) under the name GN'R and dissappears again.

i hate to bite, or indulge someone has stupid as saulhudson89, but; brian may, buckethead, billy howerdel, dave navarro, the rolling stones, bruce springsteen, elton john, josh freese, Marco Beltrami to name just a few. i don't really care either way but yeah, you're a dumbass.

I meant only SOLO perfomances and not with GN'R, cause than Slash also played with brian may, the rolling stones, elton john and U2.

And btw bucketshit and josh freese were employed by GN'R (and than I'm even not looking at the fact that you call them 'big stars' )

So who's the dumbass???

So, GNR playing concerts around the world for xxxxxx $. GNR playing a concert in Moscow for yyyyyyy $. What's the difference??

Because they simply played in Moscow for the big money; their were no 'fans'.

They flew all the way to Moscow for a simple private gig, where the earn more than 2 times the money the earn with a big concert and had only a few expendatures to cover: no big stage, no big crew, no pyro.

Cause if Slash did it; people would call him a sell-out. And now some fucking morons are defending GN'R for doing this and simple call it a 'gig'.

So why don't you "defend" Axl in this case???? Unless you are a fucking moron too...

I'm not defending Axl; learn to read.

I'm just saying that there are a lot of Axlite people on this forum who are goddamn hypocrite.

So now Slash is not allowed to play with other artists?

only respected and talented artists like Baz and Bubble

or he should just disappear for years, not perform at all, then go out and tour the same album for the 3rd time

that would make Slash so much cooler

no, what would make slash cooler is playing with rock stars like, Micheal Jackson, Lenny Kravitz, Lemmy, Kid Rock, Alice Cooper, Ian Astbury, Iggy Pop, Ozzy Osbourne etc.

meanwhile axl hangs with baz, a joke, and bubbles, a wtf.

slash, trying to be cool.

axl, not giving a fuck and doing whatever he wants.

in conclusion, axl is cool, slash is lame.

I corrected you....

ps. with which big stars has Axl recorded songs or performed live? Ow sorry hasn't...

As much talented as they might be, we're talking about Guns N' Roses, not Axl and friends.

No actually, you wanna check the register.

Or even wikipedia.

The current line-up is Guns N' Roses. The old line-up were Guns N' Roses.

They won't even come close to the 'old' GN'R...

But than again, besides some handfull of people on the forums, nobody sees this version as GN'R.

+1

The Axlites are so brainwashed that it's just funny. They kinda remind me of religious people who constantly bitch about "There's is a god and I don't care about logic thinking" bla bla bla. You just can't talk sense into their easily manipulative heads, just like the Axlites on these boards...

Guns N' Roses need five ingredients to be complete, and those ingredients are Steven, Duff, Slash, Izzy and Axl. Right now Guns N' Roses is just like a pizza with no cheese, tomato sause, oregano or meat. Pretty fucking boring in other words.

You say it perfectly..

So, GNR playing concerts around the world for xxxxxx $. GNR playing a concert in Moscow for yyyyyyy $. What's the difference??

Because they simply played in Moscow for the big money; their were no 'fans'.

They flew all the way to Moscow for a simple private gig, where the earn more than 2 times the money the earn with a big concert and had only a few expendatures to cover: no big stage, no big crew, no pyro.

Cause if Slash did it; people would call him a sell-out. And now some fucking morons are defending GN'R for doing this and simple call it a 'gig'.

I just wish Slash would go away completely. :/

Lol, then what you doing here if you dont respect the original GNR? Just leave and close door you dumb ignorant.

We all must LOVE the original GNR? Like everyone loves current GNR.

But atleast you can show some respect and don't spit on them. Cause there simply the reason why this board exist.? If Slash and co weren't in GN'R, you would have never heard of GN'R let alone Axl Rose.

No, you need to shut the fuck up.

He has the right to say that, and he is simply 100% right about that point. Why being such a dick and letting not only thousands of people wait on you but also the other bandmembers?

EVERY old member have complaint about the late starts.

So I think that all the 'Sla$h arguments' are now history on this board...

And the reason is...?

People call Slash a sell-out because of the things he does besides music. Axl gets payed 1million dollar to do a private gig, for playing under the GN'R name.

Not very hard to say, who the 'sell-out' is.

So I think that all the 'Sla$h arguments' are now history on this board...

They won't even come close to the 'old' GN'R...

But than again, besides some handfull of people on the forums, nobody sees this version as GN'R.

That guy from Indiana does...forgot his name...guy with the microphone?

Ok let's put it in perspective:

If all the members of U2 would leave expect Bono, and Bono would hire some (unknown) musicians to play with him the old songs under the U2 name: would you than call it U2?

If Bono was the frst member and held the rights to the name and the others joined subsequently and left him one by one, to be replaced one by one, well yeah, yes.

You're just kidding, aren't you....?

It's very simple regarding to a reunion:

Every old member of GN'R has said in the past that they are willing to do a reunion tour, but only on the condition that there won't be any late starts and that everybody will be equally threated. It simply depends on only one person, and that is Axl.

And he wants to do it, I think that much is pretty clear. Sigh oh well?

A quick summary of what Slash has said when all this is done would be appreciated , I can give it a good guess though.

but his ego stands in the way

It's very simple regarding to a reunion:

Every old member of GN'R has said in the past that they are willing to do a reunion tour, but only on the condition that there won't be any late starts and that everybody will be equally threated. It simply depends on only one person, and that is Axl.

They won't even come close to the 'old' GN'R...

But than again, besides some handfull of people on the forums, nobody sees this version as GN'R.

That guy from Indiana does...forgot his name...guy with the microphone?

Ok let's put it in perspective:

If all the members of U2 would leave expect Bono, and Bono would hire some (unknown) musicians to play with him the old songs under the U2 name: would you than call it U2?

As much talented as they might be, we're talking about Guns N' Roses, not Axl and friends.

No actually, you wanna check the register.

Or even wikipedia.

The current line-up is Guns N' Roses. The old line-up were Guns N' Roses.

They won't even come close to the 'old' GN'R...

But than again, besides some handfull of people on the forums, nobody sees this version as GN'R.

They will never accept that Axl wants to be in charge of everything..

Stop dreaming people. Guest performances is all we are going to get.

its also all we "should" get

nothing more

think about todays band members

they are much better !

Because nobody gives a shit about $la$h or sorum.

why you gotta lie like that?

Don't give to many attention to him, just read is signature:

"Chinese Democracy is better than Appetite for Destruction

New GN'R is better than VR (and also old GN'R for that matter)"

He should take himself to a mental facility. You can't take a guy who says that seriously....

I'd like to see a reunion just to see how you fuckwads react. Would be classic. The amount of disrespect old guns, mainly slash, gets on this forum is quite pathetic. Since so many of you feel the need to call slash "garbage", why not list some of your accomplishments in life.

lets see:

slash is a millionaire

big house

awesome cars

dozens and dozens of amazing riffs and solos

100+ million albums sold and worldwide recognition.

What do any of you guys have on that?

Fact is, no one except this forum gives 2 shits about chinese democracy. The only reason anyone bothers to show up to a "GNR" concert these days is to hear Axl and the old tunes. If they dumped the whole CD setlist off, no one would care. SCOM, NR, Estranged, PC, YCBM, WTTJ, Brownstone, Its so easy, RQ, etc etc etc....

You can thank slash and the old crew for that, does anything on CD compare? NOPE!

Atleast someone is talking with sense...

Ritz 88

Argentina 93

Paris 92

Downgrade? Haha. A reunion is about the only thing that would make GNR relevant again.

The man is right, it would be a downgrade.

Sure, all the kids would love it, but musically, its a step down, no doubt about it.

You're kidding, aren't you?

An all-star line-up might be sooner than we think

We sure hope so.

not unless they find a cure for 'cancer' (see what I did there)

You can't take someone with a Bucketshit avater seriously.

BUT:

- Show some goddamn respect to the fans and don't start 105 minutes to late (22:15 instead of 20:30). Cause some people have to work or go to school the next day, and when the concert is over at 0:50 and the last train has already leaved at 23:45 you're simply screwed.

- And get rid of that fucking solo's, we know that they are technically amazing players, but when the simply can't play with as much as feeling as Slash can (and the can't), than don't do it; they have no value.

Are you serious? I can't see how people still tend to talk about this, everyone knows they go on late. First time I saw them they went on 23:20, and finished about 02:00 at night, no trains/busses etc. But you always get home somehow. They just are like that, I'm glad if they play a great show, even if it's late

Like I said, you are one of the handfull of people who are willing to accept Axl his bullshit. For me it's bullshit. If you act like this you just don't have any respect for the fans. And there were 12.000 fans in Arnhem sunday. And 90% of them just wanted to hear the classic songs and were hoping to feel a little of the atmosphere of the 80's and 90's. Be there on time.

It's Axl and his tribute band.

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Exactly, it ain't rock & roll anymore. Nowaday, every band plays on the scheduled time (or maybe a maximum of 30 minutes overtime). Axl should appreciate the fact that people are still attending these Axl Rose shows.

This is BULLSHIT. Rock N' Roll is the exact opposite of your definition, it's about saying fuck to the rules. Oh, every band plays on schedule? Good kids. You think GNR cares about school? NO!

I was at the same show Scaramouche was and I was not even from Norway! Well guess what I made friends with some great people over there and we shared a cab for nothing and grabbed something to eat around 3 am. This is rock n' roll, not your bullshit where everyone goes to bed at midnight without a beer.

Schoooooool's OUT for EVER!

I define R&R on the way they are on stage, not the way the thread the fans...

Just a quote of an official review of an very respectable newspaper, to make it clear:

Rose that let his audience waited until 22.15 hours, so the last trains were unattainable, was for one of the fans very "rock & roll found", but there sat the rub: with rock & roll it still has all very little to do. This Guns N 'Roses is especially harmless kitsch.

http://www.volkskrant.nl/vk/nl/3380/muziek/article/detail/1027059/2010/10/04/Guns-N-Roses-is-dit-serieus.dhtml

If you don't believe me; click on this link and past some of these articles in google translate: you will see that non of these reviews are positive.

http://news.google.nl/news/search?pz=1&cf=all&ned=nl_nl&hl=nl&q=guns+n+roses

Ok. We understood. The reviews are negative, and?

Nothing. I just wanted to 'prove' that I ain't lying.

Cause someone said, that I only translated the negative ones.

God Damn this gets old..Go away if you don't like the new band. It's pretty fuckin clear that you looked for the poor reviews. Grow up!

I loved the old band too, but if you and a few others can't enjoy the show because Slash isn't there, then go to another band's show!

You really think that? Why the fuck should I spend more than 100 euro to see a show and than select all the poor reviews to show how bad it was? Can't see the logic...

If you don't believe me; click on this link and past some of these articles in google translate: you will see that non of these reviews are positive.

http://news.google.nl/news/search?pz=1&cf=all&ned=nl_nl&hl=nl&q=guns+n+roses