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Just now, kozydogg said:

Hopefully the hype doesn't overshadow the song.  A few years ago, Atlas Shrugged was hyped up as one of the mythical "Big Guns," yet it ended up being kind of a dud.  Let's hope The General doesn't follow suit.

atlas shrug is a demo and a great one at that. No one outside of us diehards even know it exist.    There is NO WAY the general will live up to this hype, esp if not mixed properly and recorded in the last year etc

1 hour ago, colonizedmind said:

Yea.....this was billed as a "special event", hence charging folk HUGE prices for something that you can't just see on the regular tour...if anything, a minus show to the normal tour....shorter set, another one dropping their 2023 single too. Axl going through the motions of this one and using the 100 dollar bills as toilet roll! The next tour show will absolutely be better value and no doubt they'll be more into it! What was the point in this "special event" ? Oldchella was much better in 2016

its 2023, everyone has to whine about everything.  What exactly are they supposed to do different?  People didn't pay more to see guns, they paid to see a lot of bands playing with guns.  I would never do anything more at a festival.  

I like the setlist and how it changes now.  Selfishly, I wish they would add Breakdown.

6 hours ago, JimiRose said:

definitely agree about the pit. been to 2 gnr gigs in GC and it was dead. Terrible experience and shows gnr should be rewarding real fans not rich cunts

hahaha, people with money arent real fans??

21 hours ago, Free Bird said:

I really don't care if it's just a b-side. Much more important to me is, if it's gonna be released as a CD or at least on streaming platforms. But I really want a CD for my collection since my LP player is damaged.

Although we don't like the timeline, and are really bad at guessing the next move, what slash said is sort of happening.  He said they had some singles left over from CD that they wanted to get out before new album The General will be the 4th one released exactly how he said it would happen. We have that stag guy talking about new music sounding more like AFD etc.  Maybe that really was the plan all along?

5 hours ago, Majestic Beast said:

It's just a leftover of CD that kicked out of CD and didn't make it to be in.From this line up i expect high quality music,so,no the song remains mediocre and nothing memoriable at all.

NR was written before AFD, whats your point?

4 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

Agree on Oh My God. Wouldn't call that epic by any means 

But I disagree on The Garden. With slightly over 5 min runtime it's not the length that makes it epic for my taste, but the build up, the psychedelic sound, the atmosphere... Alice Cooper, the crazy part during the solo and the heavy riffing towards the end. Pure greatness. Simply epic for me 

Agree, its one of my favorites.  The Garden and OMG should not be talked about in the same sentence

10 hours ago, liers said:

If they didn’t want to release songs, they wouldn’t. No one is forcing them to

That’s my point. There are no other reasons.  They either want to or don’t.  We don’t have new music, so they don’t want to.  At least not yet 

3 minutes ago, BassistSeb said:

Agree it's like Chinese all over again and this is just one song rather than a whole record! That's the main issue with GN'R really, they've got stuff good to go and have been soundchecking it constantly but for whatever reason it's like it doesn't exist. I mean, it's kind of mad that we've had the leak for four years, there are recordings of the soundchecks and now the whole jukebox saga and yet it's still being treated as some big release that shouldn't come out ahead of time.

the ONLY reason is simple, they just dont want to release music.  If they really wanted to, we would have new songs, properly mixed.  Just like 7859573 bands do every year

On 8/7/2023 at 5:05 PM, JAxlMorrison said:

Does anyone have a drinking establishment they plan to go to beforehand or is there a tailgate or something? I know Duke’s had something for GNR fans beforehand back in 2017.

Troegs

2 hours ago, Blackstar said:

From what I can see, some of the posters there are no less critical towards the band than the posters on here - actually the most active user at HTGTH right now is someone who thinks that the current band sucks without Izzy and Steven and that it's all Axl's fault, lol.

"Less critical"?  The board is crazy. If I post "I really wish we can get some new music", Jarmo will reply " just because you demand they do what you want, doesn't mean they will.  The band doesn't owe you anything, stop demanding they play new music.  Go live your life and enjoy what we have"  :-)

I love this forum and all of us fans.  So far in 1.5 weeks, we have convinced ourselves that Perhaps was definitely coming out on the 11th.  Now, with no real proof again, we have convinced ourselves its not coming out.  

8 hours ago, JimiRose said:

Lol, a forum cannot kill plans of a songs release 

This is GnR, they use any excuse not to release new music.  And most of them are BS

2 hours ago, TheGeneral said:

That's some good news! Perhaps is a good song, can't wait to hear it in top quality with reworked instrumentals.

That being said, Atlas is still the strongest song out of them all ... so ...

I agree.  I really hope we get a re-worked finished Atlas

3 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

Clicking on this thread results in misery 99% of the time. Why do you guys do it, do you enjoy the pain? It's way better to stop "waiting" and just wake up one day and a new song will be out and remove all the waiting from it, I can't believe after all these years I'm still tricking myself into "waiting" for new GNR music.

 I like seeing the "hot" next to it, then clicking to see why and realize its nothing like always

3 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

I expect your comment to get a lot of shit but I actually 100% agree with this.

been saying this for years.  if they wanted to release new music, the would.  1830584 bands show how easy it is every year

29 minutes ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said:

That’s kinda what happened.

This reunion has gone incredibly well. The band seems to be getting along. They’re playing consistent shows, starting on time, making a lot of money, making a lot of concert audiences happy (moreso on the nights Axl sounds semi-decent).

And all of this is because Axl is running the show.

Slash and Duff divorced themselves from the band in the mid 90s and it changed their perspective on it. In 1993, Slash and Duff were probably willing to fight for control with Axl over this stuff because at the time it was still *their* band just as much as it was his, in their eyes. They were still on a journey that began when the band got together in the 80s. It was still their imperial phase.

Fast forward 20+ years, after playing mostly theaters and clubs on their own, and their attitude is probably “hey, I left. This is Axl’s band now.” Of course, they wrote the songs with him. Of course, Slash and Duff are just as much a part of Guns N’ Roses as Axl is, in terms of the band’s history and songwriting and even legally with regards to the older work and artwork, etc.

But logistically and operationally, this is Axl’s band and that was probably made clear to Slash and Duff before they rejoined. That’s why they’re playing with Axl’s drummer and rhythm guitarist. That’s why there’s a second keyboardist/sampler in the band. It wasn’t a 3-man decision, it was Axl saying “this is who we’re rolling with, you guys good with that? Oh, the drummer isn’t to your liking? Work it out with him and get on the same page. See you at rehearsals.”

It’s similar to someone leaving a C-suite position at a large corporation but maintaining a seat on the board. That’s Slash and Duff - they sit at the table, but Axl is the CEO. I would even argue that perhaps Beta and Fernando have more sway than, say, Slash.

And a lot of that, again, is down to Slash and Duff being cool with it. Again, they have perspective: they left and went off on their own. In 1995, Slash still felt he had to protect his band, his legacy. 20 years later, he’s a  legend. An icon of music. He probably doesn’t *care* about when Guns is releasing new music. It’s more important for him to be friends with Axl and Duff and play these songs to adoring audiences in large venues than it is to fight with Axl again over the direction of new music. What once was important to Slash and Duff simple isn’t anymore. Their priorities have shifted.

If what you are saying is true, why wasn't "Axl's band" selling out arena before two of the real guys came back?  Both sides showed that they could make some money separate, but they needed to be together to really have the type of success they are seeing today

1 hour ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

“Trying to get a single out”

How come this band is the only one in the world that doesn’t know how to release new music? Every other artist in the world does it. Does every mechanism in the industry to release new music have it out for Axl? 

I doubt any one still believes this line.  If they wanted to, they would.  Its that simple

42 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said:

It just becomes more and more apparent the more you think about it, plus given the now announced plans for the unreleased ChiDem material .... That the 2008 album was a "best of" collection  and the trilogy idea for reasons we may never know was completely scrapped. Say what you want about "plans before the reunion happened" but the fact that only 4-6 songs unreleased ChiDem songs were picked to be reworked and released I think makes it glaringly obvious that what we got in 2008 was going to be the last big release from this band.

where is the official announcement?

18 hours ago, allwaystired said:

Oh I'd love a live album. Always like live albums a lot, they're sounding good at the moment, so I'd definitely like it......as long as it doesn't come at the expense of anything else of course. 

a live album of songs Ive heard 102745 times?  No thanks!  Thats  just laziness

28 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Why would anyone bother doing that? Such odd behaviour. 

so this is your 1st day on social media then?  :-)

3 hours ago, El Guapo said:

It's super lame and extremly pretentious at this point. Hate this shit.

And yes, it makes Slash and Duff look like dorks.

and the "plans have changed" excuse is worn out.  Plan on releasing a song and do it. 91735650567 bands do it with ease