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On 7/17/2018 at 12:21 AM, paranoyd androyd said:

Yikes, you're going to regret that mate.

Why would he regret it? I have a sleeve going with nothing but Guns N Roses related material. I have been listening to this band from the time i was 12 and I am now 42. No regrets.

They better leave Wichita In the set. It is a good tune and one of the few songs that Axl sounds good on. 

Even If there Isn't just enjoy the albums we got. It's extremely doubtful that we will get songs that will stand the test of time as previously released material. This band can continue to live off their past success without a problem. 

9 hours ago, D.Z.I. said:

Slash and Duff didn’t rearrange shit. The song has exactly the same structure, the only difference is the intro, which came from the very same song. And that intro itself is nothing special, really.

That Is your opinion. Many people thought the intro that Slash and Duff came up with improved the song. 

26 minutes ago, Axl owns dexter said:

Why not just release 12 songs on spotify and start a new tour? Doesn't have to be a physical release since everything is just promo for the tour (where the money is) anyway. Or do the spotify and limited vinyl run.

That is actually a great idea with no need to release a physical copy. You might have hit the nail on the head. Actually I look for that to be the only way artists will release new material at some point in the near future. 

2 hours ago, Legendador said:

In 2018, I don't see the prospect of a full-lenght album as we know it.

My bet would be one, two, maybe three new songs.

If people like it maybe more songs, but a full-lenght album is not profitable for any bands nowadays.

I could be wrong, but this could be a safe business turn for the way people buy music in this day and age.

Anyway: I'm dying to hear those ChimDem leftovers.

 

 

I agree and don't really care if they release a new album. The material from Appetite and the Illusion albums Is so strong that it can carry them for the rest of their careers as It has for the past 30 years. There are countless articles online with facts and interviews from artists stating exactly what you said, albums are not profitable, period. From a business stand point their best bet Is to release a song or two and start the touring process all over again. They will have no problem playing arenas. Eventually they could reintroduce Izzy and Adler back into the band and sell the tour as the original 5 members.  

I was 16 when they were released. Showed up at Records off the wall In Somerset Pa for the midnight release and was stunned at the turn out. Just thinking back to those times Is actually a little depressing only because of how fast time has gone by. We didn't have any responsibility and thought we had forever. It seems like we went from 16 to 41 over night. I remember getting together with a bunch of buddies on a regular basis and playing football In the field with those albums cranking from the car stereo.  Actually I don't think we did much of anything without blasting those albums. When we weren't listening to the cassettes on a stereo system, MTV was playing either November Rain, Estranged, Don't Cry, Live And Let Die or You Could Be Mine at least once an hour. When we couldn't get enough of the albums or MTV we popped In the Live from Tokyo VHS tapes. Guns N Roses was everything and everywhere back then. I wouldn't trade being In high school at that time for any other time. 

The surprise element Is what I miss most, when you got an album you couldn't wait to listen to It and you really didn't know what to expect until you did. The Internet has definitely taken that away.  I was naive enough to believe that the Chinese Democracy album would  be similar to the UYI release  and woke my daughter up to ride along to best buy and we ended up being the only ones at the store when they opened. 

That singer for STP  dancing and doing his best Scott Weiland Impression. Come on man,  GTFOH. 

I had the Canelo/GGG fight even at 6 rounds a piece and I see no problem with a scorecard of 115-113 In Canelo's favor. I thought Canelo won a lot of the early rounds with GGG winning the second half of the fight with exception of the 12th round which I scored 10-9 for Canelo. Very good fight, a third fight Is a must. I was a fan and was pulling for GGG but he showed what he was all about by leaving the ring without giving an Interview. 

Watching Ozark and Californication on Netflix. Both are very good.

On 9/12/2018 at 7:33 PM, Silverburst80 said:

I mean could you land much of a better shot?, it's not like he caught G in the side of the head/ear it was a clean hit. Interesting both fighters are predicting knock outs, fuck it's gonna be brutal haven't really got into boxing this much for awhile....hopefully it's not spoiled by outside influences.

Boxing has always been corrupt and about outside influences. Adalaide Byrd, who was an official judge for the first fight made it quite clear with a score of 118-110 for Canelo In the first fight. No one In their right mind who has followed boxing and who watched the fight could have possibly come up with that ridiculous scorecard. GGG needs a knockout or at least two knock downs or he loses the fight on the scorecards .

On 9/12/2018 at 4:26 AM, Len Cnut said:

I wouldn't say he quite walked through it, he certainly felt it but fuck me he didn't half swallow it well.  Thats the same right hand that sent Amir Khan into orbit.

Khan Is a much smaller guy and moved up two weight classes to fight Canelo. I am not an Amir Kahn fan but he deserves some mad respect for taking the fight. He was doing pretty well up until he got caught and put to sleep. GGG has no chance on the scorecards this Saturday night, I am also picking Canelo by decision, although I am pulling for GGG. 

2 hours ago, Gnrcane said:

I beat you to this 3 days earlier on the first reply to the thread! :-)

Good job. and true. Sorry I missed that.

8 hours ago, thunderram said:

And we can't through a post or two w/o somebody complaining about Myles voice.

Myles Kennedy is in not one but two highly successful rock n' roll bands and has millions of fans. I'm really beginning to believe that Occam's Razor applies here and many of the complainers are either tone deaf or biased GN'R fans or both.

While I get that everyone has personal tastes and that Myles Kennedy may not be their cup of tea, this notion that he's so freaking bad that people can't get through a verse is just utterly ridiculous to me.

If you can't get through a post or two without someone complaining about his voice then that should tell you something. Biased GNR fan? Did you skip the part where I also stated that Axl does not sound good at this point either? 

30 minutes ago, UsedYourIllusion said:

Too bad we don't have any good proshot live performances from 91 with all those songs :/ all I want is Perfect Crime, Dust N' Bones in good qualitt

Maybe not proshot but seems to be good quality.

I guess It Is a matter of preference but I can't ever get through more than a line or two of a song due to the singers voice. Granted Axl doesn't sound very good these days but this Myles dude Is just plain awful in my opinion. 

Not In This Lifetime. 

Great albums then and now. I prefer them both over Appetite and I prefer UYI 2  simply because of Estranged. 

6 hours ago, Modano09 said:

Well Axl's the lead singer of GNR so you understand why he would perform GNR songs at GNR concerts. Duff, I'm not sure, but Slash did play GNR songs. Because he's best known for GNR and wrote a lot of them so he mixed them into his shows while he was touring his latest album. Meanwhile Adler's throwing shit fits that he's not in GNR and playing bars with a GNR cover band promoted as Appetite For Destruction the way it's supposed to be because the only other thing he's done in his career was Celebrity Rehab. 

I am not going to continue to go back and forth with you because you have a clear agenda that Is obvious to everyone following this thread. Slash was permitted to play Guns N Roses songs because that Is what he Is  "best known for" yet Steven Adler Is not, even though that Is what he Is best known for.

Your argument Is ridiculous to say the least. 

12 minutes ago, Modano09 said:

He should cling to it, it's all he has going for him. But suggesting what he's doing and what GNR are doing is basically the same is ridiculous. I think the issue here is that Alder's never done anything else and whines for decades about how he's not in GNR and decides to do a "how it should be" AFD tour to piggy back off what GNR's actually doing and people want to say that's basically the same as the actual band playing those songs on a massive world tour. 

Did Axl play Appetite material after saying he wanted to "bury the album" and was the only original member of the band? Did Slash and Duff play Appetite material when they were no longer members of the band? 

2 minutes ago, Modano09 said:

That's true. But that's all he has going for him. He played on a popular band's debut album 30 years ago so he keeps clinging to that to get people to see him play those songs in bars. Not quite the same as the more influential/important members of that band playing those songs because they're still in the band or wrote them. 

When you say "he played on a popular bands debut album 30 years ago" you make it sound as if he was not an original member.  Axl was the only original member at one point and played AFD material ,as well as Slash and Duff. How Is it any different?

Why would he stop clinging to that? The material is that strong that people want to hear it 31 years later. 

5 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

He sounds ok. It's far from a great performance by Slash. 

Compare that to the studio or the 90s versions, it doesn't hold up.

And I know Axl isn't too hot here either but, let's keep the thread on topic. Slash doesn't sound that good on this song.

For whatever reason he's choosing to phrase the solos differently and it takes all the air out the tyres.

It holds up just fine. He was hit and miss on this solo in the 90's also, just as Axl was. A good example would be this,  It sounds horrible. 

15 minutes ago, Modano09 said:

I think you go to a GNR or Slash show expecting to hear AFD because it's either a GNR show or a Slash show and those songs are associated with them. I think that's somewhat different than Adler still doing AFD because he really never did anything else worth talking about. 

I am sure fans attend a Steven Adler show expecting to hear AFD material as those songs are associated with him also. 

Sounds pretty fucking good to me.

Lol, If only Axl could cover his own song as good as this guy did.