Lumikki

8 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

It took them 26 years but the AFD lineup is finally performing together 

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Merry Christmas!!! 

Third one is my favorite

21 hours ago, Frey said:

That's true, I've noticed that as well. Pictures like the one @SerenityScorp posted earlier are pretty rare, usually he's just scowling and looking uncomfortable and tense. I saw these pics of Axl and Erin somewhere on Instagram recently and Axl is so fucking tense in them. Everytime I see these pics I'm like "Dude, that's your girlfriend you're holding there, not a fucking grenade! Chill out."

These, right?

I always think he looks really tense and awkward in these as well (though part of it might be the just the back thing/hunching his shoulders issue we discussed at some point in this thread).

Still like these pictures way better than any pictures of Axl and Steph though. Stephanie's fake-ness just shines through in every picture and ruins them.

I also really like these:

My absolute favorite pictures though....

16 hours ago, killuridols said:

That's funny because in this thread we have concluded more than once that he looked happy with Erin, while with Stephanie everything was a pose. It was clear she didn't love him at all.

... are all pics from this photoshoot.

They were both so gorgeous that day

On 11.12.2016 at 3:23 PM, lilacmess said:

I'm from Graz, but live in Villach now.

Oh wow, another Austrian, yay!

3 minutes ago, killuridols said:

I don't think they are lying @Lumikki 

It is too many people telling the same kind of stories. Besides, who would want to joke or lie about a suicidal person?

Unfortunately, Axl is (or was) suicidal and people around him fear for this 

Exactly. Way too many people telling similar stories and joking or lying about it would be pretty fucked up. That's why I think all these stories are probably true as well.

22 hours ago, Blackstar said:

As I see it now, I don't think so. Apart from the expenses, the year period the shows will take place is the most difficult for me to take a leave from work.

But I don't mind so much. I was lucky to see the 4/5 of the original band and now at least I'll have reviews/impressions from all of you

Maybe the small chance you mentioned really will work out! I agree with @killuridols, you really deserve to go see them live and the Paris show you're thinking about is probably going to be one of the most epic ones

On 7.12.2016 at 0:07 PM, lilacmess said:

Me too! Whooohooo!

Awesome! Where are you from @lilacmess?

1 hour ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

I've been in contact with ticketmaster all day yesterday. They said VIP nation is the provider. VIP nation say they aren't doing the London show, just the others lol it says VIP nation on the e mail. Basically, someone messed up and now they're covering it up. Ticketmaster said they will refund me for my tickets and I can try my luck in general sale, robbing gits!! 

And saw with my own eyes those packages with hotels that people will have bought and there isn't one. 

The only UK show and already it's going way wrong. It gives me an edgy feeling about it. 

Oh shit. I feel for you, ticketmaster and livenation both screwed up here as well with the tickets (though not to the extent you are describing) and it makes mad just to think about it.

These assholes are trying to screw you over pretty badly, it's total bullshit Maybe if you're persistent enough and annoy the hell out of them, they'll offer you something better?

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that things will work out for you somehow.

9 minutes ago, killuridols said:

52 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Just saw this on Twitter, from Sebastian Bachs new book 

Its not like any of his subsequent returns to the UK have gone any better either. Each tour has been marred by something here  

I hope Ticketmaster sort their shit out and don't fucking wreck the London show! 

I need this book I need this book I need this book!!!!! 

Ok, do you girls think now that it makes much more sense why we see TB around Axl day and night? 

He's like a baby, like a 3 year old that needs constant watch or could end up really bad. 

I really hope there aren't guns in Axl's house (because this also reminds me of the excerpts posted here before from Mick Wall's book about Axl and a gun). People like this should not have any element of danger around them.

Makes me worried..... I feel like he's not really well 

So Axl doesn't just jump out of moving cars, he jumps out of flying helicopters too?

Assuming all these stories by Baz, Mick Wall, Doug Goldstein, Bryn Bridenthal, Slash, etc. are true (and I personally think they probably are) and there really is always a risk of Axl harming himself in some way, I might have to cut TB some slack on that. Especially Beta, since she was the one who supposedly kept calling Doug Goldstein in desperation when Axl was crying in his bed and messing around with a gun. That probably left a lasting impression on her too.

If Axl is really this... fragile and unstable, I probably wouldn't let him out of my sight either tbh.

46 minutes ago, The Cosmic Ted said:

That sucks.

You should check if someone is selling GC tickets for Vienna. I know the prices can be ridiculous but it's better than nothing? 

Yeah, @Andy14 and me will try to find some other ways to get our hands on GC tickets, but it will be so much harder and I wanted to be done with this shit already. And we wasted money on Nightrain for nothing

25 minutes ago, dgnr said:

Sorry to hear it, girl! But you can't buy them on Saturday when the actual sale starts? As I'm not on Nightrain, so I'm just gonna buy my ticket on Saturday and I think Golden Circle will be available  

How do you know GC tickets will be available if they are already sold out now? (I could buy any other kind of ticket just fine, but if I select the GC ones, it says not available anymore).

Are there different contingents of GC tickets for different dates and vendors? Meaning that it's only the Nightrain pre-sale GC tickets that are sold out already, but they might still have some left for regular sale?

Does anyone know how this generally works?

Can I rant and cry?

@Andy14 and me signed up for Nightrain just to get Golden Circle tickets and we wanted to get some for Vienna earlier and they are already sold out Pre-sale only starts tomorrow, but the dumb GC tickets apparently have all sold out via Nightrain already or something. I'm so mad and I wanna cry.

Even worse, I can't even buy one of these useless horribly expensive VIP Golden Circle packages because no matter where I try to buy these from (directly from Nightrain or on the ticketmaster site), it always just directs me back to ticketmaster's main page. All the links are useless. WTF???

I hate this shit.

Too fucking tired to comment on anything serious, but interesting post, @Blackstar. I didn't know about some of the stuff in your last post.

1 hour ago, Frey said:

Fanfiction about Axl finding a wife?!

I thought all fanfiction was about Axl and Slash (or Axl and Izzy) realizing their love for each other and living happily ever after. Or having soap opera-ish relationship drama.

Or just straight-up porn about Axl and Slash (or others) fucking each other.

That's the impression I got from this thread and the various girls who are into that. Never involved any women.

1 hour ago, SerenityScorp said:

Nope not all of it, Some straight, some humour, some even angst N'not all of Them soap opera ish  

also not all of Them are story of fucking each other 

Fanfic kinda like short novel of any genre but with real character like Bands Actors, etc or fiction char from game, movies, etc./ not original character

Once again I seriously recommendof SLaxl19, Great writing, but angst. 

I guess it depends on the platform. On places like rockfic.com it's mostly slash fiction as far as I'm aware. Slash = the gay kind of fan fiction, so with GNR you actually can read slash fiction about Slash if you are so inclined

I've noticed the kids on Tumblr write lots of weird self-insert stuff where you're supposed to imagine yourself in these little stories though. It creeps me out to be honest. I don't want to imagine myself in any of these weird-ass scenarios and I don't see the point. And they're really short too. Blah. When I was a kid, the only thing that existed was stuff about Axl and Slash, Axl and Izzy or Slash and Duff basically. Either of the romance or the porn variety usually lol. That's what I was raised on and everything else seems weird to me #grumpyoldlady

Though I have to agree with @SerenityScorp, from the little I've seen (I'm not very up to date on these matters anymore) it really isn't all about relationship drama and fucking these days. There seems to be a lot more short novel-like stuff with all kinds of plots and from all kinds of genres. I've been meaning to read that Victorian era England horror story that was recently posted, but haven't gotten around to it.

This is one of my favorite pics of Izzy. He looks so sweet and innocent there

4 hours ago, KiraMPD said:

Maybe he was upset about the some of the stories from the Hell House. Or perhaps the weird threesome when Izzy came on Slash...? 

Everyone likes Duff! 

You know, I could definitely see Izzy not being thrilled about Slash making stories like that public

And I have to stick up for Izzy whe it comes to Slash's and Izzy's relationship. Slash has been a real asshole towards Izzy a couple of times, but I've read more or less every Izzy interview in existence and Izzy has always been very nice towards Slash, sometimes even coming across as very worried about Slash (and the other guys too, but I specifically remember him talking about Slash's drug use in an interview).

@SerenityScorp I'm not surprised Izzy would go to art shows. He likes to draw himself and I remember him talking about how important the artwork in album booklets is and how much he loved looking at these things when he was young. And he also apparently enjoyed art class together with Axl, so...

10 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Couldnt that also be perceived as a grand gesture as @Lumikki described he does too? 

I think it counts as the kind of thing Slash described. I mean what's more grand than declaring your gratitude and love for someone in front of thousands of people live on stage?

Wonder what kind of grand gestures Axl did for Slash though.

22 hours ago, KiraMPD said:

The thing is, I completely agree with that. The manager should manage the band and take care of the business aspect of things and keep the talent's best interest in mind. You don't want the manager to dictate the artist's material!

Stage fright/anxiety issues make so much sense in hindsight. But then I look at all of the old recording and bootlegs and it just boggles the mind... Out of all the musicians I've seen, Axl seemed the most natural on stage. He wasn't overly theatrical, didn't seem choreographed, spoke to the audience as though he was looking each and every person in the eye and generally treated the stage as though it was his own personal playground. So when I look at his performance I think, "THAT guy has stage fright? WTF?!"

Obviously the logical part of me admits that one can be a phenomenal performer and have stage fright as well...

Yeah, I agree with you (and Axl as well). The thought of Niven meddling with GNR's music doesn't thrill me at all. There are more diplomatic ways of dealing with that situation though than throwing his work out of the window. But we're talking about Axl here, so...

21 hours ago, Blackstar said:

The irony is that, not long after, Niven broke up with his wife because she was cheating on him with the singer of Great White. Niven says in Mick Wall's book that this was an additional reason for his "breakdown" and his belief that he was under "psychic attack" from Axl and Yoda

Yeah, I sort of was aware that Niven didn't actually stay together forever with his wife, but this is even worse than I thought.

21 hours ago, Blackstar said:

In Mick Wall's book he says that back then (during the UYI tour) he thought he was doing the right thing when he wouldn't let Slash and Duff talk to Axl and confront him, but now he regrets doing it:

Bah, reading this makes me so angry. On what planet is isolating people from each other and zero communication the key to success?

And yeah, Axl is sensitive, but he's not completely beyond being reasoned with. I refuse to believe it was completely impossible to talk to Axl about whatever problems and difficulties may have arisen. That's never the impression I got from him.

(Not to mention that Slash and Duff, even as fucked up as they were, would surely have been capable of phrasing things in slightly more constructive ways than "You're being a big fucking cunt." should they have really needed to/been expected to.)

Kindergarden children are better at this communication thing than they are.

I agree with you about him lying before about the Barcelona thing.

3 hours ago, lilacmess said:

I'm probably far off, but this excerpt actually reminds me of the first verse of 'Better':

No one ever told me when
I was alone
They just thought I'd know better, better

 

I don't think it's far off, I've wondered before if these lines refer to stuff like the mistakes he made in dealing with his band mates.

38 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

@Lumikki this part of your post reminds me of what someone told Rolling Stone magazine. 

I was just re reading that the other day. Pretty sad. 

Good point. I remember reading that, but had totally forgotten about it. Between Dougie, Beta and the anonymous friend above claiming that Axl has has trouble showing love and affection, it's probably true. Though Beta has also said that Axl's a lot better about this kind of thing now and is used to cuddling and kissing now because they're big on that in their family.

I think it also fits with the thing Slash has said about Axl liking to make up with grand gestures. People who are terrible at showing their love often try to do so by giving expensive gifts or making grand gestures in my experience.

39 minutes ago, Crazedlioness said:

Yeah like I said, he licked his own ass quite a bit as he usually does and wow can't even fathom the effort you must have put into this. The one thing that struck me in this interview is when he says the thing about him being in a different country while slash and duff signed off the gnr name even though slash and duff basically blame it all on him. I don't think he's lying about that tbh

Nah, I was just making notes for myself while listening to it and just prettied them up a little now. But I didn't mention the thing with the contract because some days ago I think @Blackstar said something about Dougie recently admitting that he was in the same country after all. So it seems like he straight-up lied about that one.

1 hour ago, KiraMPD said:

Honestly, I feel like I can trust neither when they talk about Axl. Alan Niven always comes across like a bitter ex with an axe to grind while Doug Goldstein is often a little too complimentary and his "stories" are a little fantastical and over-dramatic (to the point that it sometimes sounds made-up). I just try to keep an open mind about it and find as many sources as possible...

In addition to that, could someone tell me (with sources) if Alan Niven and Doug Goldstein had/have their own substance abuse problems? 'Cuz in a lot of their interviews they don't seem quite all "there", ya know what I mean?

Dougie mentions having some kind of disorder in that interview that makes him manic, without the depressive part. I can totally believe it; he's constantly yelling, it's like he can't talk without yelling. It was actually hurting my ears after some time. Comes across as really hyper and choleric and can't stop giggling at his own jokes.

Niven definitely engaged in his fair share of drugs and alcohol. He used to do drugs and drink with the band, which the band didn't like according to Doug Goldstein.

14 minutes ago, killuridols said:

@Lumikki is that Doug interview from 2015 or a recent one?

It's the 2015 one. But I had never actually listened to it and decided to finally bite the bullet some days ago lol.

Catching up, catching up....

@dgnr Happy belated birthday! Does Slash posing with a picture of Axl count as a Slaxl pic? It's the only Slaxl-ish thing I've got on my phone at the moment

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@Blackstar and @MillionsOfSpiders - thank you for sharing these things from Mick Wall's book. Really interesting.

I agree that lying on his bed crying/gun story is probably true, as sad as it is. It's not exactly unheard of behavior for Axl.

I don't even care if he was truly suicidal or if he just wanted to be "loved and cared for" (as Doug Goldstein says). Either way, it's heart-breaking and a cry for help.

I even feel sorry for Beta if she really kept calling Doug Goldstein in hysterics because she thought Axl was going to kill himself.

Axl must have been so miserable during the mid 90s. According to that Dougie quote Axl loved Slash to death and was devastated about Slash leaving (just like we here figured out long ago ). That alone would have been enough to push a sensitive guy like Axl over the brink, not to mention all the other shit that happened around that time.

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The thing about Erin and Axl talking to each other

I don't think it was just Erin though that brought Axl and Slash back together. Axl finally being ready to give Slash a call was probably the result of him having contact and talking to people from his "old life" again. Duff, Erin apparently, and probably a few others too...

7 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

I loved reading the part about Axl telling Niven to go and tell Mick Jagger he was going to be late for the rehearsal of Salt Of The Earth, but he didn't dare go, so he left Izzy to take all the flak from Mick and Keith. Poor Izzy said they were fuming and when Axl finally turned up he had a lame excuse about missing a flight or something so Keith went mad and told him "well I slept in a fucking chandelier last night and I'm on time" 

Long live Keef

I love the thought of Keef and Mick scolding Axl for being tardy

@KiraMPD Never noticed that moment and I don't think anyone has posted it before. Well spotted Bit of an aggressive/dominant move by Axl

27 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

Girls can be called buddies, can't they?

Doesn't that piss you off if people take credit though? I think you should make a twitter account just to show them this abomination.

I don't know, you're the native English speaker here, not me Just seemed like something I've only seen used in reference to guys.

And yeah, it kind of does piss me off, but what are you gonna do? Unlike some people, I learned long ago that you can't control the internet

26 minutes ago, Padme said:

If he is still checking the forum he is gonna see it. There is no way out for you  

Yeah, you're probably right, I'm dead meat either way. Especially if the baby daddy Slash sees it too

16 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

You're welcome buddy

Seriously though, you need to tweet this to Axl and GNR immediately.

Just now, Oldest Goat said:

it is now my all-time favourite post. @Lumikki Please tweet it to them I'm not exaggerating or being sarcastic they literally need to see it. Can you even imagine their expressions when they see this shit? lmfao

I'm a girl lol.

I don't even have Twitter and Axl's gonna kill me if he sees that monstrosity

(I figure they will see it somehow sooner or later anyway. Either someone else tweets it to them or it will make its way onto Instagram or whatever. I've seen some of my other stuff spread around on Instagram by random people before so...)

1 hour ago, Asia said:

How do we know that? Maybe he does while the band is being photographed elsewhere. So far we only know he didn't go out with TB once for the F1 event, no other cases I know of.

It's pretty obvious if you follow Axl's entourage on Instagram and if you read what fans in the various countries they're staying at have to say. It's nearly always the same- everyone (including TB) is out and about, but Axl is never seen.

I can also confirm that from personal experience. Axl and ACDC were in Vienna for a week and I hung around the area they were staying at for a couple of days, and I talked to the papparazzi, ACDC fans etc. there who were also lurking about.

I saw everyone - Fernando, Vanessa, Vanessa's husband and kid, their nanny, Axl's bodyguard, Axl's physical therapist, Angus, Angus' wife, all the other guys in ACDC - being out and about every day. They constantly walked around to go shopping, sightseeing, to go out to eat, to walk the dog, to jog, they went to the zoo, they did all kinds of things. Even Beta went out sightseeing at least once that I know of.

But you know what Axl did? Nothing. He didn't leave his hotel room for an entire damn week (except to go to the show).

He would have had plenty of occasions to go out with TB. He could have gone to the zoo with them. He could have visited the churches they visited with them. He could have joined them in their shopping trips or when they went out to eat. (It would even have been relatively easy and hassle free for him. Not too many people would have recognized him or cared around here. Angus walked around with no problems and no bodyguards every day.)

But Axl didn't do any of that. On one day I asked Vanessa if Axl was going to come out today. She replied "No, Axl isn't going to come out today." And I could already tell by the way she said that that Axl wasn't going to come out any other day either. Which turned out to be true.

And I've read similar things from fans all over the world, it's (nearly) always the same.

Axl not going out has nothing to do with Slash or Duff. Like @KiraMPD and @Frey said, he doesn't go out with anyone, not even his own entourage most of the time.

And yes, I do find that worrisome as well.

1 hour ago, KiraMPD said:

Because in this day and age we would have seen something on social media? Because according to @dgnr Beta said "Axl doesn't leave the room too often"? Although I could understand if you don't consider Beta a reliable source... A bunch of other reports that have come out so far suggest that Axl is not leaving the hotel at least.

But maybe your right! Maybe Axl is secretly going out with and living it up with his "other friends". He's never been spotted cuz he's such a master of disguise dontcha know!

And also this, yes.

6 minutes ago, killuridols said:

I don't remember receiving presents from my friends parents either as a kid but as an adult, I have and I gave to her too, since we have had them invited for Christmas dinner.

Don't get what's so weird about it.... Or is it that in your cultures you are only allowed to receive presents from your families only?

Hah no, it's perfectly fine to receive presents from all kinds of people, but usually you get them from people you are close to. And who is close to their friends' parents? Not that many people in my experience (may be different in other countries).

My friends' parents are people that I chat to politely when I run into them or when I'm at their house, but I don't hang out with them and am not close enough with them to exchange or give presents.

7 hours ago, Frey said:

That story stuck out to me as well.

Because in my whole life I have never received a Christmas gift from one of my friends' mothers. 

Not even as a kid, so I think that is quite uncommon.

Then again, Axl did apparently spend a lot of time making noise in the Isbells' garage lol.

4 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Nah, it's not really the norm to get a Christmas present from your friends parents, unless they feel sorry for you. My friends mum bought me and my sister a present each one year when my parents split up and I used to hang around their house all the time. I was fucking embarrassed by it though. Weird how your brain processes things as a kid. 

I think maybe Izzys mum felt bad for Axl. If his teachers knew his difficulties at home then she probably did too. 

Yeah, getting Christmas presents from your friends' parents seems unusual to me too. I've known my best friend for 16 years or so and have often been at her family's home, but I've never received a gift from her mom and would feel really strange giving her one as well. Have never heard of anyone else receiving or exchanging gifts with friends' moms either.

I also agree that Izzy's mom probably knew about Axl's home life and likely felt bad for him if she's as nice as the guy in the other thread (and Izzy himself) said. I would probably have felt like doing something nice for the poor kid as well and would probably have embarrassed the fuck out of him by doing so (because I totally get what you're saying @MillionsOfSpiders, I would have felt the same way as a kid as you did).