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4 hours ago, stella said:
@Lumikki can you please post the other half of the page with the skeletons? The one where there's a dedication to someone, etc. - I'm kind of dying to read it now.
The other half is the picture Frey poster earlier, with the weird websites, the thanks to Yoda and Beta and Axl talking about Riad some more and about "saving his life".
Btw you can see all the pages of both booklets in the links I posted earlier:
Link to all the artwork from the Red Hand version of CD: http://troccolitm.com/CDChiDemRedHand.html
Link to all the artwork from the Grenade version of CD: http://troccolitm.com/CDChiDemGrenade.html
3 hours ago, Juliette said:Totally disgusting what Gene Simmons said, and the idiots who agree with him
Maybe he is so jealous of him, I guess.
Is Slash going bald?
Slash started going bald ages ago. He has hair transplants or something now, but there are pictures and videos of him where you can tell he's really losing his hair.
3 hours ago, john lennon said:God keeping up with this thread is like a full time job haha
I don't mind tho, you guys really find some interesting stuff every now n then
Who's this Riad? Is he even real?
If he was Erin Everly's brother in law and if he requested Civil War to be written, then he must be a real person.
The only question is, is he really as powerful and scary as Axl describes in the CD booklet.
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Here's some more interesting stuff from the alternate CD booklets:
Axl's thoughts on China and the future. A classic example of Axl speak, but he's not wrong. And I can see how the situation for people in China would resonate with him in particular, considering he's always been very
paranoidconcerned about the police, his freedom to do what he wants, etc.I feel like I've seen this on Slash's Instagram
Axl has this one hanging on the wall in his house
http://troccolitm.com/CDChiDemRedHand29.JPG
@killuridols This is the story about Erin's brother-in-law Riad that @Frey mentioned earlier. I remember Axl also talked about this Riad guy in an interview or something once, saying much the same things he says here. Civil War being written at his request is also mentioned here. If what Axl says is true and the guy (Riad I mean) is not just an insane liar, then I could see how having someone like that in your family could leave you a bit shaken and paranoid.
This is the same story in the other alternate booklet.
What's interesting to me hear is the "Don't ask, don't tell" part. From what I understand, DADT used to be a policy in the US military about gay people in the military being prohibited from revealing their sexual orientation and in turn not getting asked about their sexual orientation by superiors.
Hence the picture of the two kissing soldiers there.
I'm not sure what I should read into that, but it's definitely an interesting (and kind of surprising) choice for Axl to put that into one of the CD booklets.
There's lots more I could comment on, but don't have time right now.
Honestly though, I'm sad Axl never got to talk about the lyrics of CD and the artwork and everything else in more depth.
Wether you like CD or not, I think it's clear he put a lot of thought into that album and everything surrounding it, and I would have loved to hear them.
Link to all the artwork from the Red Hand version of CD: http://troccolitm.com/CDChiDemRedHand.html
Link to all the artwork from the Grenade version of CD: http://troccolitm.com/CDChiDemGrenade.html
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41 minutes ago, Frey said:
Yeah, I'm curious about Axl's vast medical knowledge as well. Makes sense that he'd know something about this topic specifically though.
Ferrari forum: I don't know, I read about it in an old thread about other places/forums Axl hangs out at (apart from mygnr lol) and the Ferrari forum came up. Apparently some people even got Beta's phone number from there because Axl left in a post trying to sell his car or something. Or something like that, it's been a long time since I read that, but it wasn't particularly interesting.
Emoji: The one he used in this tweet. The only people I ever see usually who use these elaborate emojis are Japanese/East Asian, or kids who are into manga and anime. Or maybe kids in general these days, I don't know.
(ง'̀-'́)ง
CD booklet: There was a list of websites in the CD booklets (maybe only in the alternate versions). Most of them were normal charities or stuff like the GNR website and myspace ().
Don't know what the flat earth society forum does in there. Maybe it's a joke or he just found that forum funny or inspirational. I don't really think he believes the earth is flat lol. I know Axl is a nut, but he's too smart for that.
Interesting list of charities though: gorillas, female genital mutilation, orphans, lung cancer, prostate cancer... I remember some people were speculating he might have suffered from prostate cancer in the years he looked so weird because of that.
Axl's words there are interesting as well:
This album wasn't made so much for myself, money, ego or fame. It was made because Riad and those like him exist, no one seems to care or have any idea how to approach such a complex reality and unfortunately we all suffer.
My thanks for any and all of the good that came before, goes without saying. My apologies to anyone I have unintentionally confused and those I have mistakenly offended. If absent mindedly, we left anyone out, our sincerest apologies, we'll make it up to you.
For Beta without whom none of this or any other imagined would exist. No one worked harder, suffered more and endured more nonsense often saving the entire effort long after the bell when no one selse knew how or could.
In memory of Sharon Maynard.
There are many I miss, many I don't, some I'll remember, others...
This is how I spent my summer. And how with the help of many others managed to save my own life. If something here works for you, that's more than we could hope for. Please take care of yourselves and within reason each other. I wish you the best, more of whatever blows your skirt up and less traffic.
"Punctuality is the thief of time" - Oscar Wylde
Love, Axl
"In memory of Sharon Maynard." Seems like in 2008 he was still very fond of Yoda then. Beta also gets special thanks.
"This is how I spent my summer. And how with the help of many others managed to save my own life." This is curious as well. What does he mean by "save my own life"? Was he feeling suicidal or something again around the 2006-2008 era?
And weird to see that he still seems so concerned about Erin's brother in law after all these years (the Riad guy).
Yes, I was annoyed when I saw the mention of Yoda in the CD booklet. I'd hoped she would have been a thing of the past by then.
I also remember people speculating about the prostate cancer thing. It's possible I guess...
Also, I actually think there's tons of interesting stuff in the CD booklets. I need to look at them again because it's been a while since I last saw them, but I remember finding them quite interesting.
Axl's thoughts and explanations throughout the booklet, the artwork, the combination of artwork with certain songs...
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20 hours ago, Frey said:
Oh yeah.
I just googled it. If you google their names you already get a lot of articles with titles like "Axl Rose needed a good beating" and there's a video of him saying that apparently.
According to Simmons, Rose is to blame for GNR being underachievers — and that some physical discipline would have gone a long way in getting him and the group back on track.
“Guns N’ Roses could have been the best band in the world,” Simmons told Music-news.com, “and the reason they’re not is because of Axl Rose. Drugs, heroin, alcohol and all that, but ultimately it falls on Axl Rose’s shoulders.”
Simmons added, “A good beating would have helped. When you misbehaved as a little kid, there’s someone there to give you what for. Then, when you become a grown-up, who’s there to set you straight?”
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/kiss-gene-simmons-thinks-axl-rose-deserves-a-beatdown/
And:
During the address, Simmons, who is also a reality TV star and entrepreneur, stressed the duties of being a live performer. "I don't care if you're Axl Rose, forgot to tie your shoelaces or your father molested you when you were three -- you're a bitch if you don't show up onstage when it says 9 o'clock," he said, drawing loud applause from the audience.
http://www.newgnr.com/forum/index.php?topic=36987.0
Yes, I remember that.
Gene Simmons is such a disgusting douchebag. Good thing I never liked his lame ass band...
19 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:Is she with a fella though? Has she had a relationship with another fella since meeting Axl?
Not that we know of. She once said in an interview she was disappointed two times by men now and is wary of getting into another relationship and that she's too busy for a realtionship anyway, because taking care of Axl is a 24/7 job.
1 hour ago, Frey said:It's pretty obvious if you pay attention to his posts here on this forum and elsewhere and the shit he posts on twitter.
He seemed to be very familiar with certain posters and the happenings on this forum for example. And the weird shit he knows and rants about on twitter? Stuff that he could only have found out on the internet. No one in real life would tell him about some poor Indonesian people sentenced to death or some cop shooting a dog god knows where. Or him knowing about the waitress incident. And of course the Danish giraffe incident he got really upset about. Some of these things were international news stories that he could have seen on TV, but others are pretty obscure stuff. So it's safe to say he reads a lot of news on the internet (or on the internet and he also watches TV a lot).
We also know he hangs out (used to hang out) in other forums- the Ferrari forum for example. And he also knew the little fan sites of some people who've met him.
And then there's the weird websites mentioned in the CD booklet. Like the flat earth society website. Still don't know what's up with that, but I could easily see Axl being some kind of conspiracy theorist lol. He already sounded like one in the 90s and I wouldn't be surprised if he's one one these people who believe vaccines cause autism and shit.
If you look at his twitter, he also seems very up to date for a guy his age when it comes to pop culture and stuff. The chat speak, the Japanese style fighting emoji, the jokes about 50 Shades of Grey and transphobia and stuff like that... rather unusual for someone from his generation.
That's not Axl's hand.
It's a Hello Kitty shirt
Exactly.
And don't forget him getting upset about the Fat Axl meme
If you pay close attention to the things he says and does, it's very obvious he spends a lot of time on the net.
And he's been doing that since very early on too. Remember, he used to be online friends or something with that wolf lady (and he posted on her forum too I think?) way back in the late 90s/early 2000s when many people didn't even have internet yet.
Around the same time he also called out some posters from an internet message board that had somehow pissed him off during a concert. And he called the internet a big garbage can. Which tells me he spent a lot of time on there and got upset about what he found.
But that didn't stop him. It has been shown time again and again in the following years that he still spends a lot of time on the internet. And it makes perfect sense if you think about it. Axl was obsessed with what people were saying and writing about him in the 80s and early 90s already and tried to control it. Considering that, the internet must be both an incredible temptation and a nightmare for him.
So many people talking about him and he can't even do anything about it. I thought he had learnt to deal with that a bit better (he doesnt call out internet posters during concerts anymore), but trying to get the Fat Axl pictures removed says otherwise.
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1 hour ago, janrichmond said:
cos no one would vote for it
I would.
Out of all the work they've produced separately I think Chinese Democracy, It's 5 O'Clock Somewhere, Ain't Life Grand, Ju Ju Hounds and a few of Slash's more recent songs, plus random Izzy songs on various albums are the best.
But since I can't vote for multiple albums, I would have voted for CD because it has the highest number of songs I like contained on one album.
Since I can't vote for CD, I voted for It's 5 O'Clock Somewhere because I like some songs on it and it amuses me.
Tommy Stinson's solo record is good as well (at least the one I own).
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26 minutes ago, Asia said:You're totally out of your mind and unfortunately you're not the only one here . The hysteria in this thread has reached some truly sick levels.You got what seemed completely impossible only a year ago, you got Axl, Slash and Duff delivering at the highest level, you got songs we were never to hear again live, you got a good chance for new music finally and you say that you'd rather have none of this because Izzy made a fucking tweet? For God's sake, people grow up, stop behaving like butthurt three year olds cause that is really getting pathetic. Go to the shows if you enjoy them, don't go if you don't, but stop making a dramatic soap opera out of it all and don't die for Izzy, cause believe me, he wouldn't die for you. And he's more than fine, he can take great care of himself.
Some people in this thread are just unbelievable. None of these guys are saints and none of you know what really goes on behind the scenes no matter how much you like to pretend or think you do.
It's completely pointless getting your panties in a twist like that over a fucking tweet.
And the "Saint Izzy can do no wrong" brigade in this thread come across just as delusional as the "Axl can do no wrong" types, and I say that as someone who loves Izzy, a lot of his solo work and who wants to see him back in the band.
(Also to all the people bashing Duff? Fuck off. If there's one guy in the band who's less deserving of criticism than the rest, it's him.)
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12 hours ago, Blackstar said:
Omg, I didn't see this coming. Axl didn't really say much, but it seems it was enough to piss Izzy off. The best and smartest answer would have been "we talked with Izzy, but we weren't able to reach an agreement"
Exactly. Why is no one coaching them on how to answer these questions if they aren't capable of coming up with answers like that themselves?
12 hours ago, Blackstar said:THIS. it's Team No one to me too, at least for now; I'll be waiting for the full story from the other side, but even then I'll probably not pick sides.
And yeah, they have always been assholes. Their history says it all. Axl had attempted to reduce Izzy's royalties, because "Izzy wasn't doing his job". It was a shitty move on Axl's part, but there's a question whether it was solely Axl's thing or there was at least consent from Slash and Duff about that; I'm not sure if the status of the band at that time would allow Axl to do such a thing all by himself. At the same time frame (it's not clear if it was a little before or a little after), Izzy had suggested that Axl should be fined because "he wasn't doing his job" (he was late, he had been walking off stage etc) and apparently he had been outvoted. Also apparently Izzy didn't sign the contract that would demote his position and Axl didn't push things. Then Izzy left and Axl was crying about it. Go figure...
Out of likes. Look what an inspiration this band is to its really talented fans! This is so amazing
I have no doubt that Slash and Duff were involved in this back then and also are now (there's a reason Izzy said "they" in his tweet).
Slash is a self-admitted workaholic. When I think about all the things he has said about both Izzy and the business side of Guns (him talking about Izzy wanting an insane amount of money for the couple of shows he did in 93, saying Izzy was unprepared and sloppy then, talking about how all the business is basically handled by Axl and him (and then they run the important things by Duff), how no matter how long he's partying he's back on the phone doing business by nine in the morning etc.) I get the impression that Slash did feel sort of resentful about Izzy not shouldering any of the work he and Axl (and Duff to a smaller extent) did. But at the same time he probably also liked it that way because Slash is in many ways just as bad of a control freak as Axl is. So I guess the two of them running the band together back then worked well for them in a way.
Fast forward to now and you don't just have Slash and Axl steering this ship, but also Duff who's become all sober, smart and business-savy as well over the years and who is also hugely invested and involved in running this business now (and has been for a while). So if these three feel Izzy doesn't deserve what he's asking for, Izzy doesn't stand a chance against them. And neither does anyone else. They're a force to be reckoned with when they're working together instead of squabbling with each other. Someone in the other thread quoted Duff as allegedly saying "Izzy thinks he's gonna get his 25% back. That's never gonna happen." Harsh, but I could see it being true.
And thank you!
6 hours ago, Mandy123 said:good lord, just read through the Izzy thread and it's basically become a "bash all the members who you feel is less important than Izzy" free for all.
That, and evidently Duff is supposed to fix ALL GnR related problems, including backing out and not doing the tour at all if Izzy didn't get what he wanted.
Don't forget Duff is also greedy now, a yes man, "just the bass player", and the one who didn't want Steven back in the band, among other things.
Funny how quickly he went from Saint Duff to that in some people's eyes. If there's one thing that really annoys me about Izzygate it's the sheer amount of shit Axl and Duff are getting (I see less vitriol directed at Slash for some reason). I really don't think it's deserved, considering the little amount of information we have about this and that Axl/Slash/Duff's position is also quite understandable, even though I'd love to have Izzy back in the band.
14 hours ago, Andy14 said:@Lumikki lol amazing!!! At least something that made me laugh, thank you!
I was trying to make fun of the Izzy situation (that's what we Czech people are good at, to turn even the worst situation into a joke) but I'm too tired today lol
12 hours ago, killuridols said:omfg @Lumikki I need that painting as a poster to hang in my office cardboard and look at it every time something bad goes wrong. I've been laughing for 20 minutes here
Thanks, I'm glad it managed to cheer you up
5 hours ago, stella said:10 hours ago, Frey said:I know, but the way I remember it that was a really early interview, from 87 or 88 maybe.
So way before he got into the whole regression therapy thing and everything.
Which is why I was surprised, because back then he still seemed pretty intent on appearing tough and macho.
But apparently thought a child psychiatrist would be best suited for the band lol.
And yeah, considering what you said it isn't too odd he would prefer a child psychiatrist and at this point I wouldn't even care anymore. It wouldn't even register on the GNR/AXL wirdness scale and it would still be better than Yoda or TB or whatever.
There's a whole thing in the states right now where adults go to pediatricians because they find them friendlier and more nurturing. Which is actually true, adult medicine doesn't look after anyone's emotional state, and that's bad sometimes. Same concept, maybe?
Given that Axl supposedly wanted to check himself into a psych hospital back in the darker days of the NuGuns era, and that there have been one or two oblique jokes about medication on Axl's cats' Twitters (something about gabapentin, innit?) maybe he's found his peace with conventional medicine now and has been pursuing that path.
Huh, never heard about that before.
But as far as I'm concerned Axl can see all the child psychiatrists or pediatricians he wants, if that is really something he maybe feels more comfortable with, like @Blackstar suggested.I'd rather he sees a child psychiatrist and a pediatrician than Yoda and all these doctors who were prescribing him endless amounts of vitamins and pills and homeopathic remedies.
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@Andy14 LOL! But I'm pretty sure we're all going to hell anyway, so at least we can party down there together?
(Also does that mean Slash is Mary Magdalene or whatever Jesus' girlfriend's name was? )
Also, New Axl pic?
8 hours ago, giuls said:You laugh but i actually think it would have been an awesome idea for Slaxl.
Yes, I agree. And Marc Canter agrees with us too Slash and Axl were dealing with a lot of the same issues people in bad marriages deal with (they even compared their relationship to a marriage themselves multiple times). They might have learned something about communicating better with each other or something from going to a marriage counselor or couples' therapist lol.
In fact, it still woud be a good idea for them probably.
Off to couples' therapy with them!
8 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:That's one of my favorite Sluff pics. But I actually think it's Slash who's really here
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On 6.9.2016 at 5:05 PM, SerenityScorp said:Soooo
beta: mother
Duff: Father
Angus: Grandfather
Slash: Bf? Husband? Wife?
On 6.9.2016 at 5:50 PM, MillionsOfSpiders said:Steven - family pet.
On 6.9.2016 at 6:09 PM, Andy14 said:Izzy - grumpy neighbour
On 6.9.2016 at 6:01 PM, KMS said:Izzy - grumpy cat
On 6.9.2016 at 5:01 AM, killuridols said:@Lumikki and @Frey Duff was born to be a father!
I kid you not when I say I wish Duff would take Axl to live with him and reeducate him from scratch, teach him "how to be a man" LOL and put him under strict diet.
But Axl should relax and never contradict Duff with anything. Just let him do what he does best: be a dad
On 6.9.2016 at 6:18 PM, Jane M. said:Debbie Downer.
On 6.9.2016 at 7:23 PM, Frey said:LOL
Izzy's Axl's bro though, he could simply be his older brother in this fucked up family.
"Mummy". Only as a fan of this band to you hear and talk this much about the singer's mommy. Fans of other bands would be so weirded out if you explained the inner workings of GnR to them.
This whole situation sucks. So I just made someting really dumb inspired by the comments in this thread lol. (Because what else are you supposed to do when the carpenter is late? Clearly hanging out on mygnr and doodling silly things in MS Paint is the most sensible and productive thing to do.)
Should have painted money trees instead of avocado trees though, considering recent events
And because "Izzy is family" ( lol GNR camp), he gets to be featured 4 times in this crappy doodle
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#Team No Fucking One. They're all idiots (but what else is new).
By the same logic used to call Axl/Slash/Duff greedy, you could also call Izzy greedy for demanding to be paid equally to the big three when there are valid reasons against that. I suspect Axl/Slash/Duff look at the situation much the same way @stella does. They worked to make this tour happen, they dealt with band business for the last 25 years, etc. and don't understand why the guy who did none of that should be paid the same (I would feel that way too in their position probably).
On the other hand, Izzy is a founding member and one of the main songwriters (not to mention their friend) and it certainly wouldn't kill Axl/Slash/Duff to give him a bigger share. It's not like they're struggling for money and it would have made this an actual reunion. A nice symbolic and healing thing.
Whatever. They'll get over it. They've gotten over worse and will do so again most likely. At least I hope so. I still want to see Izzy on stage with them at some point.
35 minutes ago, nn18 said:None if them gets that much probably. And as some said, not even the Big Three split the money equally amongst them, let alone with Izzy. So he indeed should be more realistic.
And that's why they haven't done interviews....now we get it....
How do we know that?
And yep, they finally do an interview and it went south real fast
Honestly, I'm really annoyed that we're probably not going to get another interview anytime soon now. I was looking forward to that Slaxl interview
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20 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:
@Lumikki I was just thinking the same. He never ever says anything when he does something nice, it always comes from other people. That to me means he genuinely cares, rather than "look what a nice guy I am doing charity"
He gives money to an animal shelter in LA, they mentioned him.
Theres been other things too that I can't think of off the top of my head.
Yes, exactly! He never makes a big deal out of it or mentions it himself.
Unlike lots of other celebrities where all their "good deeds" comes across more like publicity stunts.
I'm sure he's done a lot of other nice stuff over the years that we've never even heard about.
12 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said:I think Ive I read somewher about Him talk to a kid about something I forgot, I think They are the kids tht have same experiences like Him
He worked with some organisation helping kids who where sexually abused. I remember he talked about visiting that child abuse center and they told him that his story had really helped a little boy who had trouble accepting what had happened to him. And Axl said something about that meaning more to him than anything else because he knows what it's like to be that little boy.
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41 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said:Not the first time Axl's done nice stuff like this on the down low.
I also remember he visited kids with cancer in a hospital in 2006 or so.
And I don't remember anymore where I read this, but Axl also paid for an arm prothesis for a kid who lost his arm in a tractor accident or something like that.
He really can be quite sweet and generous at times
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10 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:
I remember watching a kids Saturday morning show called SMTV live. I was a bit amazed to find out they had slash on, seeing as it really was a show for little kids.
Anyway, the two presenters, who are the most popular in England, Ant and Dec, got the honours of interviewing Slash.
He was ok until they asked him some question like what's the weirdest thing to happen to you and Slash said getting a blow job in public
They tried to gloss over that and asked him about his pets, he said he had an iguana who got out and was walking off down the road and he chased it and grabbed it's tail and it turned around and bit the fuck out of him
They cut the interview off and had to apologise over and over hahahaha I'll never forget it!!
Omg, Slash
Only he would talk about blowjobs on a kids show
And he deserved to be bitten by that iguana for grabbing its tail
42 minutes ago, Andy14 said:THE. SWEETEST.
"Go Axl... GO!"
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@dgnr Thanks for translating! I'd wondered about that part too.
Also I just noticed that Axl talked about hanging out with Duff after his dinner with Slash in the interview. I'm happy to hear that they're hanging out with each other in their spare time too and not just meeting for band related business or whatever.
I also liked how Duff always laughed at Axl's jokes and stories (Beta's reaction to the Slash message, the Amy story, the thing about TB enslaving Axl, the many layers, etc.). Sweet of him.
6 hours ago, Frey said:17 hours ago, killuridols said:@Lumikki and @Frey Duff was born to be a father!
I kid you not when I say I wish Duff would take Axl to live with him and reeducate him from scratch, teach him "how to be a man" LOL and put him under strict diet.
But Axl should relax and never contradict Duff with anything. Just let him do what he does best: be a dad
I'd rather see Axl live with Duff as well than with TB or alone up there on his hill, tbh.
Would be a pretty weird arrangement though, considering that Duff is actually younger than Axl But whatever, Axl's new mom is only 7 years (or something like that) older than him as well (not to mention the step father who's only 14 years his senior), so whatever. It wouldn't even be that weird by Axl standards.
I tend to agree with both of you, yeah. As weird as it sounds, but I think Duff would take good care of Axl.
And yeah, Duff's the expert on how to be a man (I mean he wrote a book about it ), he would be a good influence on Axl too and I trust him. The same things can't be said for TB.
2 hours ago, annablue said:Thanks @dgnr also reflecting back on the Axl / Duff interview I love how he brings up his sister Amy in relation to the broken leg/foot thing..."you know when you break something, you know". My favourite part. I guess maybe because he's still talking to his siblings and we never hear much about them.
I really liked that part too. I'm really glad he's still close with his siblings.
14 hours ago, Padme said:I agree with you about Axl. He seems too evasive or too broad in some of his commnets. For example in the begining when he talks about the Coachella guy. The way he is saying thing it seems he had direct talks with the Coachella guy. He seems very open to a reunion from the very begining. I mean Axl doesn't sound like he told Coachella to fuck off when reunion was brought up. He seems to say he was interested in listening the Coachella plan or proposal. He said "it seems real" "then it got more real" I find those comments kinda odd.
Later on when they were discussing Izzy and Adler and the possible original 5 reunion Axl said "I have no idea". I mean you can tell he is not against it. And that's good news. But "I have no idea" What kind of answer is that? Is he talking about his band or what? I think something like "well... who knows... we will see" would be a better way to answer that.
Yeah, I noticed that too, but Axl's always had weird ways of expressing himself sometimes (even back in the day), so I don't know if I should read something into that or not.
On 5.9.2016 at 10:11 AM, tiutso said:It's called "Progression" on Rockfic.
Wait, we do?
Is it because of Perla's words or am I forgetting something else?
Both because of Perla's words and also the groupie stories.
And since both the groupies and Perla agree with each other that Slash is nothing special in that department, I think it's safe to say that the premise of that story is very far removed from reality
7 hours ago, Frey said:I think Duff was there instead of Slash for two, maybe three reasons:
First, because having Slash there would have made things automatically more tense and difficult. Axl's been hanging out with Duff for longer now and they're probably more familiar and comforatble with each other. And their relationship was never as emotionally charged and volatile as Slash and Axl's. Doing that interview might not have been too big of an issue on Slash's side (though he would have hated it too, because the guy doesn't get tired of mentioning how much he hates doing interviews and that he hates talking about his feelings- combine both of this things and I'm sure Slash was glad to sit this one out), but Axl seemed to get all emotional and looked like he was about to cry just from talking about the Lebeises.
If it was just Slash and Axl and no Duff there to nip personal questions about feelings in the bud, who knows what Axl might have started talking about. Or if he'd actually started crying for real. The media would have had a field day with that. And Slash would probably have died of mortification, because something like that would be exactly the kind of thing he always tries to avoid.
Might sound a bit extreme, but I remember Duff saying something about how Axl is incapable of really lying in a not too long ago interview and Slash said something similar in his book. Combine that with him seeming kind of off emotionally and behavior-wise and I think they might have been legitimately worried about Axl saying or doing something that awkward.
And second, because they wanted someone there to corroborate Axl's claims. It's obvious one reason for this interview was to adress some of the things people were complaining/speculating about on the internet (the song tempos, Slash and Duff playing CD songs, the Lebeis situation, etc.). I remember there were a lot of people doubting Axl when he said that Slash and Duff decided to play CD songs on their own during the China Exchange interview. So they needed either Slash or Duff there to support what Axl said. Both of them can do that, but since Slash was the risky option, they went with Duff.
And a third reason might be that they're planning to do a more in-depth interview with Slash and Axl at some point in the future, and that show wasn't the place for that (or didn't pay the right price...).
Yes, that's basically what I think as well. I really hope we're gonna get that Slash and Axl interview soon though. I wanna see them interact with each other.
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So I finally got around to watching that interview (yeah, late, I know):
Two things that stood out to me:
1) I agree that Axl seemed kind of "off" somehow. I can't put my finger on what specifically it was though. Something about his eyes, the mouth breathing, his over-all body language, some of his weirder reactions to questions. Don't know if he was just nervous and tense or on meds or if I'm just imagining things because we haven't seen him a lot in recent years and it's hard to judge what is normal behavior for him these days and what isn't.
2) Duff He seemed very supportive and very attuned to Axl's feelings. It was sweet how he showed so much support and enthusiasm for the AC/DC thing and I loved how he immediately killed the "feelings/what changed" question (even though I would have liked to hear more about it because I'm nosy). I think the way he immediately started to talk about the CD thing was kind of awkward (though I think I get what he was trying to say), but I really appreciate how he seemed to want to save Axl from answering that question. Proably still is a very emotional and difficult subject to talk about for Axl. I noticed Duff seemed to watch Axl very closely all the time and usually let him lead the interview, but stepped in when he felt it was necessary. Very Dad-like of him. Dad Duff is so awesome.
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@stella @MillionsOfSpiders @Blackstar:
Thank you for your nice comments!
On 3.9.2016 at 0:41 AM, Frey said:He/They didn't say anything because I was careful not to let them see
7 hours ago, dgnr said:I haven't seen a single episode of friends in my life, but I love this lol. It's awesome
23 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:Do You have any interview/video about Duff supporting Axl N' Slizzy Over Axl? @Lumikki
This was discussed towards the beginning of the thread once. People posted a lot of videos there of Duff supporting Axl on stage when Axl stopped concerts or was upset about something. Duff also defends Axl in his book (and in some interviews, but I can't think of any off the top of my head right now), comparing Axl's issues to his own mental health problems and basically saying that Axl can't help some of the things he does. And he always explains the OIAM lyrics in a way that makes Axl's intentios seem much better than they actually were.
Slash talks about the thing with Izzy in his book, iirc. I remember him saying something about how he wanted to "pry Axl away from Izzy". Because Izzy and Axl were always together, a package deal basically, but Slash only wanted Axl.
On 3.9.2016 at 1:21 AM, killuridols said:Slash jeans are way too open, lol. More than usual so yeah, I thought "things"
Lol I don't mind if you want to interpret it that way and think of "things"
5 hours ago, tiutso said:@Lumikki @SerenityScorp Man, have y'all read that fic where the whole fucking premise is that Slash's dick is monstrously big? It's hilarious
No, I haven't. Might have to check it out.
Though I'm not sure how well this will work with my suspension of disbelief, considering that we actually know that... well that the opposite of this premise is the case in reality
17 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:By AxlCole on Axl & Duff interview
"1. When and where Axl and Slash met face to face after so many years "
I have the answer to that. Someone I know spoke to Slash backstage at one of the shows and according to him, the first voice-to-voice contact was made with Axl calling Slash. The first face-to-face contact was then made with Slash going to Axl's house for dinner.All this Slaxl moment ~ Axl made the first call He probably invite Slash for dinner in His house
I think it went like this: Duff convinced Axl to give Slash a call. Knowing Slash and especially Axl, that call probably turned into a loooong conversation. They probably talked for hours or something and finally decided to continue their conversation face-to-face the next day or the next weekend and Axl invited Slash over for dinner. So they had a nice dinner at Axl's place and probably talked some more (the entire night again maybe, like they used to in the past) because they've got a lot of things to discuss and a lot to catch up on.
17 hours ago, RooSaa said:Not sure how believable the source is, thinking how many comments on the internet start with: i know someone who met, etc ... and turned out to be made out of thin air.
Axl probably made the first call because Duff asked him too ... all those things happened because of Duff, doubt Axl would have picked up the phone to call Slash if it wasnt for Duff interventing ...
But if this is true, then it must have been kinda awkward for Slash, sitting around the Table with Axl, and the whole Lebais-Family - people who constantly hated on him, etc .. - ... and i am 100% sure that Axls 'family' was at that dinner too, as they never leave him alone ...
I think he is believable, from what I noticed on other threads. Seems to have met some people and knows some people.
And well yeah, of course it was because of Duff. Duff has been working for years to help these two idiots get over themselves. According to Marc, Duff spent a lot of time helping Axl see things from Slash's perspective, helping Slash see things from Axl's perspective, talking them into signing off on things the other guy needed, etc.
And nah, I really don't think TB were sitting around the table while Slash and Axl had their little heart-to-heart. I'm as suspicious about TB as anyone and like to criticize them a lot, but I think Axl is still quite capable of sending them away if he wants to have a private moment with Slash (he has done similar things to Del, Beta, etc. in the past, so we know does that when they're annoying him/when he doesn't want them there).
22 hours ago, ACDC8 said:Ladies, jump to the "Axl and Duff interview" topic for more details, but apparently this was told by Axl - behind the scenes - to the Brazilian journalist:
"…the rock star told that his life is totally controlled by a family of Brazilians from Santos, SP...."Axl's words, according to the article: “This Brazilian family controls my life, whips me and forces me to do things” joked the singer...Sure he is "joking" but between the lines our thoughts have been confirmed... Poor Axl.
You know, I think that is actually a good sign. It shows that Axl is aware of what people are saying and thinking about TB. And if he's aware of that, then that means that the possibility of TB controlling/manipulating him, being after his money, etc. has at least entered his mind.
Got some more things to comment on, but I need to go to bed. Can't stay up to watch crazy Brazilian TV shows, not even for Axl and Duff
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@Slash787 Lol thanks! Glad you like them.
5 hours ago, Jane M. said:After 30+ years, many interviews, documentaries and books, I think it's safe to say none of the AFD 5 liked each other. Yes Axl & Izzy were childhood friends as well as Slash & Steven but as adults their relationships were different. Those 5 guys knew they had to stay together to make it big because the magic was between them only and went through a lot, shared drugs and women and yes they bonded but I don't think they were really friends. You know what I mean? Anyways, that's my humble opinion.
I think this is true with regards to Steven and his relationship with the other guys (he really got left behind at some point for various reasons, especially by Slash), but I can't agree when I think about the other guys' relationships with each other.
Slash and Duff: These two are really close. They are basically family. They've worked together on various projects over the years, they celebrate birthdays with each other, Duff buys clothes for Slash and their children refer to them as "Uncle Slash"/"Uncle Duff". They did seem to hit a bit of a rough spot in their relationship during the VR days, but they were all on drugs again back then and pretty miserable and it was a long time ago. Obviously they worked it out and are as close as ever nowadays.
Slash and Izzy: There was always some tension between these two and some fighting over Axl in the early days (lol), but if you read old interviews, Izzy always seemed worried or concerned about Slash. And they stayed in touch all these years and are still getting along as far as we know, so that's enough to call them friends for me.
Duff and Izzy: We don't know much about these two, but they always seemed to get along really well too. Also kept in touch all these years and regularly hang out with each other. And Duff seems to be the number one guy Izzy goes to if he wants something done (like telling the world about not coming to the RRHOF induction via Duff, for example.)
Duff and Axl: This doesn't even really need commenting on. Duff's a sweetheart and has usually (both in old and new interviews) shown a lot of empathy and patience with Axl, he tends to support and defend Axl even when he doesn't deserve it and he reached out to him, re-built his relationship with him and also helped him re-build his relationship with Slash.
Izzy and Axl: I have no doubt that dealing with Axl was exhausting and frustrating for Izzy at times, but the thing that sticks out to me is that Izzy tried to check up on Axl and kept tabs on him all these years, even when Axl refused to see him. Would you keep calling and driving by someone's house in the hope of catching them if you didn't care about them? And if you watch them interact on stage in videos nowadays, Izzy seems genuinely happy (and so does Axl). Plus, Izzy apparently watched out for and took care of Axl a lot in the early days as well. And they grew up together of course. It's not one-sided either. Like @giuls said, Axl cried for hours on the phone, begging Izzy not to leave him. That's a pretty emotional reaction that indicates some kind of deeper bond.
Slash and Axl: Books could be written trying to analyze their relationship, but bottom line is, they are really wrapped up in and obsessed with each other. They've both talked about loving each other, they've both compared their relationship to a marriage (and to divorce), they write songs/albums about each other, they stay up entire nights talking about their feelings, they used to sleep in the same bed(s), Axl went crazy trying to make Slash stay and never really got over him leaving, and Slash seemed pretty crazy as well to outsiders with his Axl obsession. They both were way too bitter for many years to simply be colleagues and now they're back making heart eyes at each other again. So I think whatever they've got going on there (and no matter how healthy or unhealthy it is) actually exceeds the meaning of the simple term "friends". I at least don't have any relationships that are this turbulent and emotionally fraught with any of my friends.
4 hours ago, giuls said:It's an anime trope, when character gets sexually excited their noses bleed.
What do you mean as adult, you mean after the band broke up? Because they were friends before the troubles set in, at least, Axl & Slash were friends, they said themself they loved each other, you don't get obsessive and pur your heart out to the other or stay up to listen more than once with people you didn't like once upon a time, Axl & Izzy too, Izzy said himself he went to Axl's house to check on him after the band broke up and they seemed truly happy to be on stage together and Axl isn't a good actor, Duff was friends with everybody, i can maybe see it with Slash and Izzy because there was an element of tension (IIRC Slash said he wanted to pry Axl from Izzy's hands) and i can see it with Steve but not with the others.
Plus, Axl begged Izzy to stay in tears and when Slash left Axl went crazy and called everyone close to Slash asking them to convince Slash to stay, this is the reaction of a man who is afraid because his friends are abandoning him, imo, Slash wrote an album about Axl, it seems more deep that something set by the fact they lived together.
TL;DR I don't agree.
Sorry @giuls, I only saw your post after I'd already typed half of mine. You already said a lot of the stuff I mentioned in my post, but needless to say I agree with you
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Thanks everyone! I'm glad someone likes seeing my old stuff lol.
3 hours ago, tiutso said:But Axl sits like a fucking turtle again, doesn't he?
Like a turtle? You mean because of the way he hunches his back/shoulders? I hadn't noticed before, but I see it now
1 hour ago, killuridols said:wow this is impressive, Lumikki
I can't see any fails on them... Only to notice Slash open jeans
Which technique and materials did you use to draw/paint these ones?
Thank you! There are some anatomy and perspective issues that bug me (and I'm not too thrilled with the coloring either), but please keep not noticing these things Slash's jeans are open because... ? No idea lol. You can come up with whichever reason you prefer (Actual reason is probably because they were open on the reference pictures I used or something. And Slash's jeans used to be open all the time back in the day, so it fits.)
The Slaxl picture started out as just a pencil sketch on paper. I scanned it into my computer and then colored it in photoshop.
The landscape painting is just plain old acrylic colors on a canvas.
3 hours ago, Slash787 said:@Andy14 already beat me to it, but...
Alternatively:
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Uuuhm hi, I see I got a lot to catch up on here and elsewhere And welcome @traciij!!
Just gonna reply to the people who quoted me for now:
On 30.8.2016 at 9:41 PM, Blackstar said:I don't think he dyes his hair. His hair color is the natural color for a redhead at his age.
From the o/t discussion on the social media thread @killuridols
Yeah I agree, he doesn't dye it most likely, but who knows, his hair might be even lighter already and he might dye it to make it appear more red-ish or blond. I didn't want to completely exclude the possibility. Some people lose their hair color pretty early. I had a red-haired teacher whose hair was nearly white by the time he was 45 or so.
On 30.8.2016 at 6:14 PM, SerenityScorp said:Post Your old drawing here N' I will give You My IG
Sorry it took me so long to reply to this. I was pretty busy the last couple of days and I also couldn't find my old drawings at first, because I didn't remember where I'd saved all my old stuff to (I found everything on an external harddrive and now I made a sideblog on Tumblr to throw all this stuff on, so it doesn't just rot on there.)
Here's the Slaxl drawing you wanted to see. Keep in mind this is old as fuck, I started drawing this many years ago when I was still in school and bored during maths class or something. There's so much fail in this and so many things I'd do differently nowadays, but whatever. I was a kid and I don't have the motivation to correct/improve it these days.
I also found these. Again, these are oooooold. I probably made these around the same time as the Slaxl drawing.
(That pencil portrait of Izzy is probably the first time I tried to draw anyone realistically, which is why it looks so shitty. Poor Iz.)
These are probably the most recent things I drew/painted. And by "most recent" I mean "some years ago". I haven't drawn or painted anything in ages.
It's Japanese guitarist/solo artist Miyavi and a winter sunset.
I kinda feel like I should try doing something GnR related again these days (I always wanted to draw a portrait of Axl or something and never did), but I also don't really have the motivation/time for it
(And before anyone asks why there is a painting of Jon Bon Jovi on my blog
or before Axl kills me, that was a birthday present for a friend. I'm not actually a secret Bon Jovi fan Though I do like some of their songs.)-----------------------
And omg, I'm so excited for this I know it's most likely just gonna be chit-chat and softball questions, but still, it's my babies doing an interview together after all these years
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@SerenityScorp I already saw your PM and sent you a message back! Didn't you get it?
49 minutes ago, giuls said:Bernand Fowler, he's famous mainly for doing backing vocals for the Rolling Stones both on tour and on the albums (both Stones' album and solos prejects of the Stones members) since the mid-80s but he collaborated with a lot of other artists over the years, his first Stones tour was actually the Steel Wheels/Urban Jungle Tour so i guess Izzy and him become friendly in that occasion, i didn't know they are friends/friendly
Ah okay, thanks, I'm only a casual Stones fan, so I had no idea. Never seen Izzy with that guy before either.
17 minutes ago, HeartbreakerWoman said:Do you ladies think Axl is bald, and that the hair on his head is a wig, weave or transplant? Why or why not?
It's either his real hair or his real hair with some transplants added in along the way.
It's definitely not a wig, because his hair is clearly growing. If you look at pictures from the Troubadour performance, his hair is much shorter there than it is now. Since then, Axl's hair has grown the amount of length you'd expect it to grow in that timeframe.
Also a wig would probably look better j/k. But seriously, Axl's hair looks and behaves like the actual hair of someone his age who doesn't really put too much effort into it. It isn't as red anymore as it used to be, which is just a side effect of aging (or maybe he dyes it, not sure), it's thinner, dry, and does whatever it wants (making curls and waves) because it's shorter than it used to be and Axl probably is too lazy to straighten or blow dry it these days (or maybe it's wavy-er due to hormonal changes, also possible).
Slash also had something done to his hair (implants probably). I remember there was a time when he was really losing his hair and now it's back to looking alright again.
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@killuridols Hahahaha! .... But close enough actually
@Andy14 "Don't cry for me, killuridols" I see what you did there lol.
@Frey You should get yourself a top hat at least. Can even be worn to GnR concerts!
42 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said:Maybe actually He has those plushies somewhere on His house
Post Your old drawing here N' I will give You My IG
Omg, that thing is OOOOOLD, like I said!
I can see if I can find it (I should still have it lying around somewhere in some folder), but I'm gonna feel awkward posting that
(Although it's nothing worse than what @dgnr just posted. No porn or anything )
50 minutes ago, Jane M. said:That's the Rolling Stones logo. lol
29 minutes ago, giuls said:I didn't know he was friend with Bernard!
And as @Jane M. said the hat is a Rolling Stones' piece of merchandise
I know that is the Rolling Stones logo, I'm not stupid, but that doesn't make that hat look any better I just think it's a really ugly hat and would wear Axl's before I'd wear that one lol.
I don't know who Bernard is though?
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45 minutes ago, killuridols said:
Cool. I'm good at this but I hardly do it anymore because I'm lazy
LOL same, I used to draw a lot when I was younger, but I haven't really drawn anything in years.
I even started drawing a Slaxl picture once during some boring class in school and afterwards I actually went and colored it in photoshop.
Think that might even have been the last time I did something like that
17 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:@Lumikki We talk about the Readers tht means You included
I guess I need to change My name, but I think I'll forgot cause there will be too many names to remember. Another Person recognized it as Slaxl19's Fic Fanart without Me have to explain it ?. I've already coloured it, You can see it on tumblr. But its only the teen Axl tho, Still not done yet with the lil' Axl
Didn't know you had done another one! I only saw one. PM me your Insta account too please? I'm curious as well
46 minutes ago, Frey said:49 minutes ago, killuridols said:Triggered? What do you mean?
He's just trolling, thinking this is a Tumblr style SJW place, where everyone gets triggered by ridiculous shit. Just ignore it.
Yes, best to just ignore cupcakes.
Random picture of Izzy I came across that I've never seen before. It's from 2015 apparently, taken at a Rolling Stones concert.
That hat though... Izzy's got some hats that are worse than Axl's even...
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4 hours ago, tiutso said:
The question is, just how flexible is 'anything'
And also, if Slash likes some curves and a bit of chub, he shouldn't have a problem with the way Axl looks these days (Not that Slash has any room to judge, but still...)
3 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:@Lumikki Yes is it ok? If its not,sorry
How do You know it was My drawing? I thought Nobody will saw/intersted to see it
Yeah sure, no problem, I just didn't understand why you guys would be talking about me
Because of your username. It's very similar to the one you have here. And it was clearly fan art for Slaxl19s story. I figured there can't be that many Serenitys who have also read that story Btw, even though it's so sad, you also drew him very cute. It just makes me wanna get him out of there and hug him and protect him. Are you planning to color it?
3 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:If this means beta gets fired thn Im okay with tht (Am I being rude? I just want them to stay away from Axl N' His life N' His money)
Beta has done worse things and never got fired for that, so she won't get fired for this either, unfortunately.
2 hours ago, Andy14 said:Oh, thanks! I must have missed it. Sometimes it's hard to keep up with all the posts here lol.
It was only posted here very briefly, but then got taken down again. Because it was a screenshot of one of the videos from Meegan's private Instagram account.
16 minutes ago, Frey said:Who was it that recently mentioned the Brian Wilson biopic here (Love & Mercy)? @Blackstar?
I've been meaning to watch this for a while, but inspired by this thread I actually watched it and all I can say is
I can see the Axl parallels some people mentioned. Musically gifted kid with an abusive father, manages to become super successfull, while still remaining totally insecure about his abilities (leading to endless tinkering on one album), struggles with mental health issues and ends up getting taken advantage of by a douchebag who somehow manages to control his entire life and rob his money.
Definitely sounds very familiar to me as a Guns fan. And shows how easy it is to take advantage of someone who's vulnerable, lonely and struggles with mental illness, even if that someone is rich, intelligent, famous, etc.
I did some reasearch after I watched the movie and apparently the whole thing was much worse in real life than it was depicted in the movie even (according to Brian Wilson's wife, who played a huge part in getting him out of this fucked up and abusive situation).
One of the explanations I've seen cited for how this could even happen (apart from Dr. Landy purposefully over-medicating Brian Wilson) was that Brian Wilson, being raised by an abusive and domineering father, didn't realize just how dysfunctional and abusive that relationship was because of the way he grew up. I think I've seen someone here make a similar point about Axl before. Wouldn't surprise met at all, sadly.
I was also kind of amused by how Brian Wilson literally got saved from the clutches of the manipulative bastard by the love of a courageous woman. Sounds a lot like the real life version of what some people here wish would happen to Axl
I need to watch this as well. Sounds terrifying.
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Speaking of Ellen Young, I've been thinking she might be the reason that Beta can get comments removed on ACDCs page.
When I talked to Ellen, she seemed pretty upset about the topic of "people saying things on the internet".
She basically said something like "People think that we don't know what they're saying, but they're wrong. We see and read everything, and we know about everything that is posted on the internet and on social media. And it's really hurtful. It hurts us that people would be saying such things."
I thought Ellen was really nice and down to earth (especially for a rock star wife), but she seemed a bit touchy/upset about this issue.
And Ellen also seemed very fond of Axl and she also talks to Beta about Axl. Combine all these things, and I think it would be pretty easy for Beta to go to Ellen and have the "offending" comments removed.
23 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:I'm not mean
I know you weren't being mean, I was just joking
21 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:@Lumikki Slaxl19 said thnks for reading Her fanfic
You can find Her in tumblr: Earlymorningillusion
Huh what? You told her I read her fanfic? I'm confused.
And what? Earlymorningillusion is Slaxl19?!! Just like @tiutso I had no idea they were the same person.
And did you draw that picture? It's a good sketch, but so sad I nearly cried again when I saw that.
2 minutes ago, Andy14 said:3. Wait...What? Axl gave Slash a t-shirt?
Well, maybe. Slash has the same "Every zoo is a petting zoo" shirt now that Axl has (the one he showed him on stage). So it's possible Axl got Slash one as well as a present. Or they're sharing clothes again
22 hours ago, Frey said:Wonder if Axl still has any contact at all with the guy (or has contact with him again), because Amy still seems to in some way apparently.
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if that is true. If old (okay, young actually lol) Larry Stephen was such a hard ass that he'd kick his kid out of the house for refusing to cut his hair, I really don't see him paying fines from Axl's misdemeanors. Probably thought it would teach him a good lesson.
I don't know if I find that "very cruel" though. I wouldn't do that to my kid, but growing up a lot of kids had fathers who I imagine would have been in favor of such an approach. And I figure it might have been some kind of juvenile detention center too, instead of actual jail.
I hope so at least. Throwing him into jail for real would have been very cruel indeed. A pretty boy like him in there... well it wouldn't have been very nice for him at all.
I hope not. But who knows really. If Amy is still in contact with him in some form, anything is possible.
I wouldn't be surprised either. Axl's parents sound like real assholes, they'd be exactly the type who'd rather let their kid rot in jail rather than to pay some misdemeanor fines.
For Axl's sake, I really hope it wasn't an actual regular adult jail too.
15 hours ago, Frey said:It's a few of the PMs Beta sent to Madison. I'll just link to where I uploaded them:
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss11/FreyGNR/beta/PRrPNGz_zpskz80kwgx.jpg
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss11/FreyGNR/beta/EZ2M902_zpsywnttwu1.jpg
Transcript of the most interesting one for the people who don't want to squint their eyes out reading these screenshots lol:
"YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON. A LIAR AND AN INSTIGATOR. THE REASON HE NEVER CAME OUT TO SAY ANYTHING IS BECAUSE WE BLOCKED FROM HIM YOUR BULSHIT. HE NEVER FOUND OUT UNTIL PRETTY MUCH THE END OF THE TOUR. DON'T ASSUME SHIT MADISON. I DON'T CARE WHAT A BUILDING SECURITY GUARD SAID. HE WAS LYING BUT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE TO MAKE THIS BIG. YOU STARTED THIS."
Capslock is Beta's not mine.
And keep in mind these PMs Madison shared there were the least rude ones. If you read what Madison wrote at the beginning of the post, she says that Beta sent her other, far ruder messages even
Now from what I hear Madison was a giant bitch as well, so I don't really have much sympathy for her, but
- Is this any way for a band's manager to communicate with a mod of one of the biggest GNR fansites? "YOU ARE A HORRIBLE PERSON. A LIAR AND AN INSTIGATOR." Really? How unprofessional can you get? Angry capslock rants are not the way to come across as competent management.
- "THE REASON HE NEVER CAME OUT TO SAY ANYTHING IS BECAUSE WE BLOCKED FROM HIM YOUR BULSHIT. HE NEVER FOUND OUT UNTIL PRETTY MUCH THE END OF THE TOUR." Do I even need to say anything about this?
One can't help but wonder what else they're "blocking" from him.
LOL I remember that. Good times, good times
And yeah, I really do wonder how far their "blocking goes" and what else they're keeping from him. From everything I know and have heard, a whole lot of things, and not just forum/social media drama.
And speaking of Duff's and Susan's anniversary (lol at that person reminding Axl ahaha), I thought this was really adorable.
The stuff Duff wrote I mean. He's such a sweet guy The only one I'd marry out of that bunch, realistically speaking (well, if they were younger).
Though I'd also marry Axl to rescue him from TB- 6
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You know, I think you can really see "old Axl" in that picture. He looks a lot like his older self there.
Also loving the bar picture. It's rare to see Axl and Izzy being the goofy/smiling ones
That's pretty much exactly what I imagined when Slash told that story
That's an awesome picture of Duff. He's a cutie!
I approve of this artwork interpretation.
Speaking of artwork... here's Sasha's "lovely" painting
Also please note Axl's thanks: He thanks family and friends first (meaning the Lebeises and other people because they don't get mentioned again specifically), but Sasha gets mentioned on her own somewhere down the list. Together with other people who work for Axl. Meaning Sasha is neither real family nor a friend, just some kind of employee going by that booklet