Lumikki

5 minutes ago, nonok said:

While I'm here, I might as well add that I'm not too pleased at the prospect of Axl/DC continuing, but at least our man will continue to take over the world alongside his idol.

Same.

Slash going to see Axl on his own is sweet, but I'm too annoyed by the recent AC/DC news right now to really be happy about it.

Because I'm too much of a pessimistic and skeptical bitch to see a positive side in this.

All I'm seeing is Axl burning himself out with too much going on (because I agree with whoever said that fronting two of the biggest rock bands on the planet can't be compared to Duff's little side projects or whatever), Slash sooner or later getting annoyed by Axl prioritizing AC/DC over Guns which is going to lead to unnecessary tension and potential drama in the long run and us getting an Axl/DC album before we're getting a new Guns album. Which is really going to piss me off because I don't care about AC/DC or Axl/DC and all I want is new music from my band.

Blergh. And Fernando's dumb comment on facebook pissed me off too (right along with his awful grammar). It's no surprise TB pushes for Axl/DC to continue (they probably encouraged him to do so), because they're already seeing the dollar signs, just like @Andy14 illustrated.

10 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

Very accurate.

2 hours ago, killuridols said:

I'm very lost with this one.... I don't understand most of it. English not my native tongue so while I do understand every word, the general concept I don't grasp it.

Too confusing.

Some parts I could say have to do with him not wanting the reunion? or not wanting to work with people he doesn't like?

I don't think it has anything to do with English not being your native language. It's just a very confusing and vague song.

I agree that some parts seem to refer to Axl not wanting a reunion or are his thoughts on the band in general.

I wonder who "you" is. The band itself? The public/fans? Stephanie? Slash? All the former guys in the band? All of them?

I'm gonna do this Frey style and just write what a particular line sounds like to me:

Seems like forever and a day (since the good old days when the original band existed)

If my intentions are misunderstood,
Please be kind
I've done all I should. (this and the above 2 lines are basically him saying people blame him for shit when in fact he only did what he had to do)
I won't ask of you 
What I would not do. 
Oh, I saw the damage in you (the damage in the band? the band slowly breaking apart?)
My fortunate one (the one band that made it and became successfull)
The envy of youth. (they were young back then and everything was awesome and simpler than it is today)

Why would they 
Tell me to please those 
That laugh in my face (this and the above 2 lines are about Axl not wanting to please people who only make fun of him and the new band by reuniting)
When all of the reasons
They've taught us 
Fall over themselves 
To give way 

It's not a question of 
Whether my heart is true 
Streamlined
I had to pull through (this and the above 3 lines are about Axl having good intentions and
Look for a new 
Beginning on you (find a way to start over again with the band, without his former band mates this time)
Oh I got a message for you 
Up and away
It's what I gotta do (just leave the old stuff/band all behind and rise above it)
Forgive what you have
For what you might lose. 

What would you say 
If I told you that I'm to blame (what if he admitted it was his fault that the band broke up?)
And what would you do 
If I had to deny your name (what if he talked shit about the other guys and blamed everything on them instead?)
Where would you go if I told you 
I love you and then walked away (what if he just tells them there are no hard feelings and then just gives up the band instead and does something else?)
N' who should I turn to 
If not for the ones 
You would not save

I told you when I found you 
If there were doubts you
Should be careful and unafraid (he knew they were going to make it once the 5 of them were together?)
Now they surround you 
And all that amounts to 
Is love that you fed by
Perversion and fame (now the other guys are full of doubt and unsure about what they should do and how to proceed)

So if my affections 
Are misunderstood 
And you decide 
I'm up 
To no good (similar to some lines above?)
Don't ask me to 
Enjoy them 
Just for you

Ask yourself
Why I would choose 
To prostitute myself
To live with fortune and shame (these lines are the most obvious one in the song. Why would he sell his integrity and and honor just for all the money people keep offering him?)
Oh yeah 
When you should 
Have turned to the hearts 
Of the ones 
That you could not save (?? the fans should have instead beseeched Slash and the others to stay or should ask about their motivations and their part in this whole debacle?)

I told you 
When I found you 
All that amounts to 
Is love that you fed by
Perversion and fame (all the love people have for GNR/the old band is basically a lie, because it was built on perversion, lies and other shit fame brings with it?)

1 hour ago, killuridols said:

lol yeah and to resume it all: this whole tour is 25 years old and more.

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Just wanted to comment on the "Axl doesn't seem interested" part because I think this statement it is also fallacious. When has Axl talked about anything in the last 2 years? (last time was the Revolver mag interview)

Fans are still waiting for him to give a serious explanation of the reunion (no, the Coachella thing is bullshit and we know it), on him reconnecting with Slash, on the next album or new music, etc.

Why would he talk about Erin or any other relationship?

Only instance I could say he's not interested is if he was asked about it and he actually replied to the question.

The way Axl has handled himself regarding his private life and media tells me we won't ever see him talking about his relationships like he used to. Unless he really wanted to share that he's involved with a person, I can't see this happening any time soon. And that doesn't actually speak of his interest or uninterest. Well, I guess it shows he's not interested in the subject in general, not just Erin.

Yeah you're right, I should have said something like "not interested as far as he's been letting on".

I think Axl really got burned by being so open about his personal life, feelings etc. in the past. A lot of it came back to bite him in the ass and now he's intensely private.

It's like he said to Baz, he would pay VH1 a million dollars just to leave him alone.

1 hour ago, nn18 said:

Am I talking Chinese so nobody understands me or what?! 

I was basically agreeing with you. The ''fake insiders'' were people spreading lies about Erin, Axl or anyone from GN'R camp. I said that people that find the time to think of stuff like that have no life. 

 

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about the people who mentioned knowing a little more about this than the average person, like @Frey.

13 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said:

Dont involve Me, Im just daydreaming about Slaxl here 

Yeah, Slaxl is my preferred daydreaming material as well. If I'm gonna fantasize about anything, then about this

3 minutes ago, nn18 said:

I didn't mean litterally that we'll all sitting around and daydreaming about Axl and Erin, but it is a little bit silly bringing that story up for 25 years. They're not even the same people anymore. 

And all those fake insiders, people with some ''informations'' nobody else has....I don't know what they're doing with their own lives, but obviously nothing when they find time for shit like that  That is plain ugly, but not because Erin is DV survivor or anything but because it can simply hurt people and their families. Not talking how immoral and pathetic it is.

About what @Frey said (I don't know how to quote 2 posts from different pages simultaneosly lol), I do remember that, it was really cute seeing that, but not once Axl responded with something like that to her. If their reconcilation was anyhow realistic it would've happen already. We should just let it go. If it happens- great, as  I said, I agree with many that she was the love of his life but if not, it would be completely understandable considering their history. 

"but it is a little bit silly bringing that story up for 25 years"

That could be said about basically everything we discuss here though. Slash and Axl living with each other, sharing a bed, etc? 30 years ago. Axl's tiny little shorts and hot body? 25 years ago. Band break-up drama? Same. Discussing old stories is basically all we do here. It's only been this year that we actually got new shit to discuss. In all these years before that, nothing interesting was happening and stories from the past were all people had. As a GNR fan you're basically forced to live in the past for the most part (though like I said, the situation is a bit better now).

There are no fake insiders. I also know what these people are talking about (does that make me a fake insider too? ) and they simply know because they are friends with/talk to certain people. I don't think there is anything pathetic or wrong about that. The reason why they don't go into detail about it is because it's pretty intense stuff and it really doesn't belong here unless Erin herself chooses to talk about it in public one day or something.

And well yeah, Axl doesn't seem interested, so why would he respond? And even if he were interested, TB would probably keep him from Erin anyway. Anyway, as long as people like Erin, Meegan or Axl (he raised the topic once too recently) keep bringing this up though, people are gonna talk about it. It's only natural. Like I said, I'm already sick of it (especially when lots of people who don't know shit keep chiming in with inflammatory statements), but what are you gonna do

25 minutes ago, Frey said:

????????

That's not what's happening at all though? I've never seen anyone here be "delusional and too romatic" about this. That's not the issue here.

The only reason I'm even so involved in this is because people are spreading lies and bullshit. Which I can't stand.

And I don't think anyone is "fantasizing" about anything. Like I said earlier, people just like gossip and to watch this unfold with some popcorn.

 

22 minutes ago, killuridols said:

who is being delusional and too romantic?

Just because some of us defend her from biscuits spreading lies about her it doesn't mean that we believe in unicorns and rainbows or that we want them back together at ANY cost.

None of us can AFFIRM or DENY that Axl thinks of her or not. Can anyone here tell what YOU think about?

I do sometimes think of my ex-partners. It doesn't mean that I want to be back with them. It is very normal to think about your past relationships because you have memories of them. Sometimes a perfume, a smell, a food, some situation can remind you of that person. Unless Axl had a lobotomy performed, saying that he doesn't EVER think of her is denying everything science knows about how a mind works.

I agree with you that chances of them being back together are not really high due to circumstances and the time that has passed but none of us is in position to predict the future of anyone. How many people thought the GN'R reunion would be possible? How many people could have ever think of Axl joining AC/DC? How many of us could have predicted, based on previous pattern, that Slash and Meegan would be back together?

And for the last comment.... you are contradicting yourself when you say that we barely know anything about her but at the same time you imply she's done shady things in the past. What is the shady thing she's done in the past? Can you share it with those of us who don't know?

I have not made a saint of her. She's a human like everybody else. And she's a woman victim of DV, with all that it entails. As women, all of us should show some solidarity with her and not try to destroy her for free. You don't know when you may end up in the same place as her.

 

Exactly. It has nothing to do with "romanticizing" or being delusional. I don't sit around thinking or hoping Axl and Erin should get back together. It's their life, not mine. They can do whatever they want.

BUT. Making up lies and slanderous accusations about a DV survivor pisses me off. Especially when we, as women (and the guys too, frankly), should be doing the exact opposite. Shit like that raises my hackles, so I'm gonna comment on it.

(Also I'm starting to get as sick of this Erin topic as about the Izzy topic. Can we please stop bringing this up?)

2 minutes ago, Slash787 said:

8 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said:

Erin *left corner?

Iv'e never seen this pic before, yeah that looks like Erin. 

It IS Erin.

Here's another picture of Erin and Axl from the same day/photo shoot.

2 hours ago, Frey said:

So Erin didn't just delete all her Axl/Slash/Meegan related stuff, but she also unfollowed Slash and Meegan?

Doesn't necessarily have to mean anything (they could still be texting over Whatsapp or whatever all the time), but it is eyebrow raising. I feel drama brewing.

 

11 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:

http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/711452/Guns-N-Roses-early-years-Vicky-Hamilton-Appetite-for-Dysfunction-Axl-Rose-Slash

12 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:

http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-09-17/the-chaotic-crazed-story-of-guns-n-roses-use-your-illusion

These articles actually have some interesting stories in them lol.

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But for Hamilton there’s one story from the early days that really stands out to her.

She said “One day I was driving Guns N’ Roses to rehearsal in a friend of mine’s car who had kids.

“And there were Ernie and Bert [Sesame Street toys] in the back seat. 

“I said, ‘Don’t mess with his kids’ toys.’ The next thing I know, I’m driving along and I smell burning."

She continued: “Axl was in the front seat with me and I look back to see they’ve taken Ernie and Bert, tied guitar strings around their necks and have them smoking cigarettes while being dangled out the window.

“I was like, ‘You’ve got to be kidding me.’ I was so pissed.

“I mean now it’s funny but it wasn’t funny then.”

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“One of the things I’m proud of is that at least none of the band members died on my watch,” he says, his voice slower now. “That took a lot of effort. The bottom line is, you have to help them fight the battle, but only they can win the war. Slash went cold turkey in my home one time. I cleaned the vomit from his mouth, made sure he got clean. Then as soon as he’s clean, he calls a car and goes straight to his dealer. That was the sort of thing you were dealing with. You’d call Slash, say: ‘Come into the office, you’ve got an interview with Guitar Player magazine’. There was no interview. He’d come in and you’d stick him in a car, fly him off to Hawaii and put him on a golf course where he couldn’t score. We’d do that sort of thing.

“I put Steven on a plane one night to go to Hawaii, and he’s sitting in first class yelling: ‘We’re all going to fucking die… the plane’s going to fucking crash…’ Of course, they invite Mr Adler to exit the plane at that point, and so he’s back into LA and he can get to his dealer and his dealer can get to him and we’re fucked all over again.”

This nearly makes me feel sorry for Alan Niven. Can't have been easy watching out for their asses.

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“In no way was it minor,” says Alan Niven. “Firing a member of a band is a pain in the ass. It was incredibly painful and frustrating. I’ve got to confess I’m still capable of a flash of red hot anger with Steven at that.”

Adler’s own recollections of the moment are fractured, perhaps understandably given the state he was in. “Man, I was fucked up, and I have never denied that, I couldn’t really deny it because it was pretty fuckin’ obvious…” he says. “But I wasn’t the only one. I remember one day Slash called me to go to the studio and play Civil War, I think it was. I’d been given an opiate blocker by a doctor. I still had opiates in my system and it made me so sick. I must have tried, like, 20 times to play it, but I couldn’t. I was very weak and I didn’t have my timing. Slash and Duff were shouting at me and telling me I was fucked up.

Slash and Duff and Niven being pissed off at Steven. Clearly wasn't just Axl who couldn't deal with Steven anymore.

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Before he’d even put down his bags, the hotel manager said to him, ‘So you’re playing tonight?’

“Am I?” he’d replied absentmindedly, thinking to himself: ‘Man, you know why I’m here, you booked the meeting room for me,’ and then he’d picked up his key, taken the lift to his suite and put some music on, loud enough to shake the jetlag. Next thing he knew, there was an angry guy from the next suite along at his door complaining and when he looked up he realised that the angry guy at the door was Axl Rose. They hadn’t played together for 13 years.

What? That's not the story Duff told.

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Slash’s response is measured, guarded: “Well…” he says slowly, “I think that Axl’s always been difficult, but we managed. Because of the five individuals, and Alan, and Tom Zutaut, we managed to make it work. So you lose Steven, and then the Alan thing… I backed Alan all the way up to a certain point and then he did actually do something that set me off and I said: ‘I can’t fight for you any more’. But that was a volatile situation that was going to explode at some point. Alan wasn’t going to take Axl’s shit and Axl could not stand that, so it was a battle. I think in hindsight, although it wouldn’t have been any fun, but all we could have done differently was just to refuse Axl everything that he ever wanted. I don’t think it would have been very productive, but all things considered, what we ended up doing was going along with a lot of stuff just in order to be able to continue on, which built a monster. All I can see happening is that nothing would have happened, because it would have been at a standstill. I think we probably would have broken up a lot sooner. But I can’t support hiring Doug Goldstein as a manager. I knew that he was a creep from day one.”

Right. I'm sure that would have gone well. And while they were at it, they should have also taken Gene Simmons' advice and spanked him.

 

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“Alan was somebody that I trusted, whereas I knew Doug was somebody that played both sides against the middle,” says Slash. “In other words, he’s telling me one thing, telling Axl another and appeasing Axl all the time. And I was aware of it, but at the same time, as long as shit was getting done I was okay. As long as we kept booking tours and I was sort of kept in the mix as far as the mechanics, that’s how we managed to get from 1990 to 1990-whatever. We had the world record for touring. Even when we lost Izzy because we had all those shows booked, I was just like, ‘Let’s keep going’.

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“We make choices every day. With Use Your Illusion, Slash made a choice and I totally understood it, and to this day I don’t agree with it. One night, he and I were sitting alone in his house up in Laurel Canyon and he was really bemoaning what he thought Axl was doing to the band, and he was doing it in the context of the material he was writing. He felt it wasn’t Guns N’ Roses, he felt that he was being compromised by having to apply himself to it. He felt that one song of that kind of epic style might be appropriate, but so many? I looked at him and said: ‘You’ve got to express this’. And Slash looked at me and he said: ‘Listen, my father [an artist who designed album sleeves] has got a cupboard full of gold records, and he hasn’t got a pot to piss in.’ And that’s where he folded. From then on, Axl was in charge.”

That's some interesting insight into Slash's psyche here. Seems like he was terrified of ending up as a starving artist like his father.

And it also reminds me of something else Alan Niven said about Slash:

That Slash told him he was going to do whatever it takes as long as the money keeps rolling in (or maybe that's the same incident, only paraphrased?).

The Erin thing seems kinda worrying, but as of right now, we can't really know if means anything at all (like you said, they could be using whatsapp, etc.)

As for Slash, I also remember him talking in his book about how money was an issue in his family. Something about his father always getting upset about his grandmother finanically supporting their family, because it hurt his pride (and issues like this ultimately leading to the divorce of his parents). And I think he also mentioned his father living like a poor man or something after the divorce, same as he did above there according to Niven.

Guess that really left an impression on Slash.

1 hour ago, killuridols said:

@Andy14 will have to face me and respond some questions tomorrow

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According to Blabbermouth, Hoobastank were approached by "Axl's people" in 2002 to open for nuGN'R, and the Hoobastank talking shit about VR/Scott was in 2005.

He likes them because he likes shitty music too. Months ago I listened to something he said he was listening to, in the 80's, and it was utter shit so...

All those lyrics make sense to me, with the timing of things going on, from 1998 until 2006, Axl was not in his best state of mind. Cancelled tours, the new lineup not well received and other problems. He was depressed and lost in how to carry on with his life and band.

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oh I didn't check today

May be the biscuits harassing her again

 

Okay, so he liked Hoobastank before the VR thing. Must like the lyrics/music then

But yeah, I can see why these lyrics would appeal to him too.

48 minutes ago, killuridols said:

oh yeah I noticed that yesterday or the day before...

Maybe it is better for her or something bad is going on

Axl's Wikipedia profile has been heavily edited and his marital status was wiped out, along with a lot of other information there was there before

Also, Amy Bailey was promoted to "sister", while Stewart remains a "half-brother"

Well well well...

Interesting about Amy and Stu. I remember we were discussing this issue some time ago and there were some good arguments for this actually being true. Wonder if the page was updated by someone who actually knows though or by someone who just read our thread or some random fanpage. Or by someone who has some kind of agenda for doing that.

The semi-protection thing... does that really mean much though? I mean even I registered for wikipedia a long time ago, so I guess technically I could just pust some random bullshit on his wikipedia page too?

25 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

They've also imo been monitoring Instagram, for a few weeks. I touched on it when talking to Frey, that they're all over IG at the min cos there's something they don't want Axl to see. And I think he got sneaky and has been on it  and that's freaked them out. 

I know that sounds bad lol but it's possible.

There was no in particular video, it's just an overall impression I got of him last night. Also, a couple of reviews i read on the AC/DC forum said Axl was very quiet for him at MSG and hardly any interaction with the other band members. 

I would believe it. I wouldn't put anything past them.

22 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Yes, the lyrics seem to be the most important criterion for Axl to like a band or a song. I remember him saying he didn't like U2 until he listened to "One" and identified with the lyrics.

As for his musical preferences in general, there is stuff I like too and other I don't. For example I don't like much his biggest idols, Queen and Elton John (it's not that I don't consider them great artists, they just are not of my taste), nu metal, WASP (meh) and these Hoobastank guys, but I like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, NIN, Devo and of course The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, The Ramones, New York Dolls etc.

Axl's wikipedia profile has changed since a while. The excuse on the profile's discussion page for omitting anything related to his personal life, marriage etc is that he's a living person and this is sensitive stuff

As opposed to the millions of other living persons on wikipedia that have their personal lifes on there? I smell bullshit.

19 minutes ago, stella said:

Well, since anyone can change Wikipedia and it's not really a reliable source for anything, I wouldn't put too much into it.
 

That's true (though there is the thing @killuridols mentioned apparently), but his wikipedia page being changed now (and concerning mostly his private relationships for no reason that actually makes sense) in combination with Erin deleting all her Axl related posts (even her Slash related ones) and TB and biscuits being really active recently (plus Axl maybe seeming not his usual self)... all of it together seems kind of fishy.

30 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Most likely their inclusion in the "thank you" liner notes doesn't have anything to do with this particular song (it's not improbable, though). They may have had only one song that can be called a "hit", but as @giuls said, they have had a relatively notable career (4-5 albums) and they were hyped as a good new rock L.A. band (I don't know why, from the songs I've heard there isn't anything special about them -and I find them rather boring), so maybe Axl just liked them. Or maybe it's because they have referenced GnR as one of their influences and they have covered Civil War.

They had also toured with Velvet Revolver and it seems that they didn't get along with Scott Weiland (they even wrote a song about that):

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/hoobastank-singer-slams-velvet-revolver/

so maybe this is why Axl appreciated them and @Andy14 is right, it was about Slash again

 

Yes, yes, clearly @Andy14 was right once again

Seriously though, Axl would probably like them on principle just for talking shit about VR/Scott. He's pity like that

1 hour ago, killuridols said:

Ok, I have one question for the GN'R experts here... i.e. @Blackstar or anyone who knows the answer, actually

That song "The Reason" by The Hoobastank just came up on the radio and I couldn't help remembering that Axl thanked them on CD liner notes so I was wondering if any of you know why is he such a fan of these one hit wonders?

Because that's the only song I know by them but somehow I remember Axl wanted this band to open for nuGN'R back in 2000 or 2001, not sure.

The lyrics to "The Reason" ring a bell to me on why he may like that song, but so much to the point of being a fan? really? What other cool songs do they have or am I missing an amazing band and I'm just being a jerk to them? 

I... had no idea Axl was into Hoobastank. I never even noticed him thanking them in the CD liner notes (wtf?).

Tbh, I don't know what to think about it. I like that song (The Reason), but like you, I always thought they were just a one hit wonder as well. Never heard anything else by them and didn't know they released 10 albums lol.

I can see how Axl might relate to these lyrics though. Unpopular opinion: The chorus is about Beta/TB and the rest of the lyrics are about Erin, Slash, etc.

1 hour ago, killuridols said:

ffffffffffffffff uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu @Andy14 you know I'm trying to put this thread back on track for today and you're shitting all over it

Back on track from what? I feel like I missed something

7 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:

This taken on same place like this

These pictures were taken at a British grocery store.

Better version:

More and bigger pictures of Slash and family:

23 minutes ago, sanity_lost said:

Random comment of the day: I think Duff looked better with short hair.

I think Duff looked the worst when his hair was this short

(apart from the time shortly before his pancreas exploded of course)

32 minutes ago, killuridols said:

I'm not a guy and I know I will date @Andy14 and @Lumikki one day 

I will treat them better than Mr Rose  

I know you would

Need to catch up on shit.

Anyway, here's some more pics of Slash and London meeting the Queen:

On 14.9.2016 at 11:32 PM, nn18 said:

Ohhh nooo, I actually have a Tumblr profile for quite some time but I tend to avoid those "rock fandom" accounts. 

PS: I lied, I occasionaly read some of those fanfics and then regret it next few monts

More Duff and Susan cuteness:

And this:

Awww.

Grace wearing a shirt with her dad on it.

That's adorable.

And she's got a GNR phone covere too

3 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

@Lumikki ROFL honestly I am laughing my head off right now. Page 98 

I would believe he says all those things too. 

Well all of these stories are true more or less. Even the thing with Axl bitching about too much corn in Europe (even on pizza!), because he only likes corn on the cob

But I pulled page 98 out of my ass, I didn't actually check lol.

3 hours ago, giuls said:

@Lumikki That's hilarious    (and quite probable, knowing the precedents) poor Angus, we should send him a nice brand of tea as consolation  

There's not enough tea in the world for Angus to make up for the shit he has to deal with

3 hours ago, tiutso said:

@Lumikki

And how exactly did he figure out that Slash was flexible? 

Because of the way Slash bends his back when playing guitar and because of all the stuff he can do like hand stands and shit, of course

What did YOU think he was talking about?

1 hour ago, Frey said:

1 hour ago, Axl Roses Future Wife said:

This isn't related to any of the above posts but I really need some advice.  My male best friend of six years told me he's in love with me and I don't feel the same way.  I don't know what to say to him or how to deal with this.  I don't want to lose the friendship.

I'm sorry your're having difficulties, but this thread is not really the place to ask for advice on that. See fourth point on the list below.

Maybe you could start a thread somewhere else specifically to ask people for advice?

You'd reach more people that way probably.

I agree with Frey. Starting a thread specifically dedicated to your problem would probably be a good idea.

Or isn't there a love/sex/relationship thread? You should ask about this there.

Hope things work out for you.

3 hours ago, killuridols said:

lol, no, it wasn't Slash cat. It is or was the cat of either Lulu or Scarlett.

I think she had it even before Meegan hooked up with Slash again but I'm not sure.

Iremember seeing the post about it but at the moment I didn't react to it like I should, so I never memorized if that was IG or TumblR

and never got a screenshot of it either

3 hours ago, KMS said:

It's quite possible, IIRC, I've read on some fan's instagram, that Slash and Meegan adopted 4 kittens from cats' rescuing association a while ago (I think they called them 'Hudson's kittens :-)  ), and these are 2 of them. Isn't other one called Mr Angus? And I think 2 others are girls.

Btw. Did you guys notice the plaster with pink skulls on Slash's hand?

3 hours ago, giuls said:

No, i know it's owned by one of Meegan's daughter but i remember like @KMS that they adopted kitten and one of them was Axl? I remember one of M's daughter thanking them?

Girls, there are actually two cats named Axl. The new one who is part of the other four cats and the other cat named Axl that Slash had in the 90s or so.

He said that cat was aggressive and grummpy and liked to piss on everything, so he named it Axl

@KMS Pink plaster with skulls is adorable on Slash

58 minutes ago, tiutso said:

I don't even see what's unusual about her face? Eye shape a bit more slanted? I must be missing something.

Nothing's all that unusual about her face as far as I'm concerned. But she has quite slanted eyes and high cheek bones, very much a "model" type of look. Most models have striking facial features in a way and I assumed that's what some people here consider unusual maybe. Personally, I think she is absolutely beautiful. Both of Duff's girls are, but that's not exactly surprising considering their parents lol.

2 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Not worth it to get frustrated. This is how it is going to be, we cannot moderate this thread by ourselves, so we will have to learn how to deal with it without losing it.

We are many more here having fun, being cool to each other and staying true to the things we believe in, than the amount of biscuits  trying to ruin it for us.

As long as the "creators/regulars/supporters" of this thread stay together and keep moving on, they won't be able to destroy what we've built so far.

Women's Thread will survive against all odds

(we love you, Frey )

Out of likes, but. Biscuits Hahaha. Is that the new cupcakes? And I agree.

I'm also starting to think we should have a list of things thare are BANNED in this thread:

- Making fun of anyone's children

- Being nasty about the Slaxl (or Sluff, for the people who are more into that) thing

- Making ignorant or rude comments about past and present wifes/girlfriends (unless deserved of course, like in the case of Steph Seymour drunk driving or whatever)

- Off-topic spamming

- Worshipping Sasha?

Anything else people have recently gotten pissed off about?

31 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

3 hours ago, Slash787 said:

 

Did Grace have plastic surgery or something? she is like turning in to this.

 

Oh come on dude, that's not fair. We shouldn't make fun of their children, they have nothing to do with their business. Now I really hope Duff's not reading this thread, it would hurt him a lot. 

Exactly.

That was totally uncalled for. Insulting anyone's children is way below the line.

And for the record, nothing about Grace looks like she had plastic surgery.

She has her mom and her dad's unusual facial features, that's all. And I think she's absolutely beautiful.

1 hour ago, Frey said:

1 hour ago, john lennon said:

please don't give them ideas

the slaxl thing is gross enough, no one wants to hear about axba

Oh right, I remember now, you're the other one who for some reason likes to come into this thread to randomly insult people.

Seriously, what is it with all the shit stirrers here recently? There aren't enough to go around.

And this.

Seriously, if you don't like the content of this thread, don't read it. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to be here.

By my estimation around half or even two thirds of the regular posters in this thread enjoy the Slaxl topic. It has always been there and it will come up again and again.

If that's too "gross" for you, then tough luck. Like I said, no one's forcing you to be here.

6 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

 

Lol no, you can find the pic of Slash on the internet, so someone else is a genius, not me, I just added the text 

Don't be so modest, you clearly did more than just finding a picture

6 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

Nooooooo Axl belongs to Slash and no one else

4 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

Andy, you're a genius!

That is epic.

27 minutes ago, Kara said:

Thank you for shedding some light on the subject for me. That's all I was really looking for from the first post. 

That's good that she's able to forgive him and move forward. There may be some things Axl needs to forgive her for too. Just saying.

Yes, I'm sure they both hurt each other. But on balance, Axl has much more to be sorry for than she does and I don't like seeing a more or less innocent woman get dragged through the mud by the person @giuls mentioned or by the person who never posts in this thread (and always talks shit about this thread in other places ), but just now decided to chime in to call it the "truth".

I know for a fact that the things these two people claim as the "truth" are wrong.

VERY VERY WRONG. What they're saying is actually quite slanderous and considering the true stories behind the incidents they're bringing up, what they're saying is also really disgusting.

21 minutes ago, Kara said:

You really think Axl's paying for ALL their houses?! I truly hope not! 

He had mentioned recently that Fernando has worked his way up in the business so I'm thinking he might actually work for a management agency by now and be getting paid through that company. Hopefully that's the case.

Not too long ago we had an interesting discussion in this thread about just how awful Team Brazil is. You might want to read up on that if you want to get a true picture of them. What @MillionsOfSpiders described is quite possibly the truth unfortunately, judging by everything we know.

22 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

It wouldn't surprise me if Axl was running low on cash. 

There was that lady at the Vegas shows, who spoke to someone who posts here, said she used to work for Axl in the finance department and he has a load of mortgages to pay for, wtf? She said he needed money.

There have been many other rumours about him needing cash since I have been posting on gnr boards. Would explain endless touring with nothing to promote. 

Looking on Instagram pages of TB and the amount of money they must get from Axl is just unbelievable, it really is. 

Plus all the money Axl has sunk into Guns N Roses, the legal side and the touring side, CD etc

It just wouldn't surprise me to find he's skint. 

18 minutes ago, Jane M. said:

@MillionsOfSpiders Out of likes but I agree with you.

This reminds of Izzy saying in an interview something like he could imagine Axl calling him for a reunion if he was strapped for cash.

Maybe Izzy was right with his prediction.

Also the mortgages: Beta has her own house, Vanessa and her family have their own house, Fernando and his family have one as well (or an apartment in NY or something).

Heavens above, please let Axl not be paying for their houses in addition to the no doubt undeserved amounts of money he already pays them. Please.

But unfortunately that would make perfect sense if he has a "load of mortgages" (wtf?).

And I fear that's what it is. Jesus Christ these people are so awful.

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Better a party with Angus than a party with the freak show.

And LOL at the last sentence of the article.

2 hours ago, Kara said:

Maybe I shouldn't have phrased it the way I did. For that, I apologize to anyone I may have offended. I don't think she should've been put in that position and don't even get me started on Stephanie. 

Not once did I say Axl was a perfect angel in this thing. I'm sure there are things he did to hurt her throughout their relationship. But that's just it. Why is she randomly posting about him and talking about how much she loves him if he was such the monster she claimed him to be back then? Maybe things weren't as bad as she said they were is all I'm saying. And that's what I was "confused" about.

It really is a shame things didn't work out better for the two of them because I can see there was genuine love there. 

She is not randomly posting about him and talking about how much she loves him. Someone asked her and she answered that she will always love him (as in she never stopped and can't really help it). And I have no doubt things were as bad as she was saying. We all know what Axl used to be like, he's done everything she described to other people as well.

BUT. Emotions and relationships are complex, afwul things (as her talking about always loving him already shows) and she was a young girl from a dysfunctional family herself and he was her first love. And she genuinely loved him even when he was just a poor street kid, wanted to have a family with him, felt bad for him and gave up her entire life just to take care of him. Not saying that's good or healthy, but that kind of thing leaves a lasting impression. Also, going by everything Erin has said (and what other people have said about her), I get the impression that she is quite sweet and romantic and also a bit naive. Something she said about Slash and Meegan being back together also confirmed that for me.

Combine all of that, and I'm not surprised that she would still have a soft spot for Axl. Especially now that she is getting older herself, is single afaik and sees her best friend being so happy with Slash. Time tends to make us remember the good times more than the bed times and she says she has forgiven Axl. I have no opinion on wether they should or shouldn't get back together, but who am I to judge her feelings? No one. So I don't.

6 minutes ago, Pink Rose said:

Oh please. Did Stephanie also force Erin to counter sue Axl?  No.  Did she force Erin to run to People magazine and unload all the dirt on Axl? No.  Did she force Erin to auction off all those personal items?  No.   Erin isn't the sweet little thing you people make her out to be.  She knew exactly how to push Axl's buttons and set him off.  She isn't faithful either.  She got knocked up by another man while she was still married to her ex husband.  And went after her baby daddy with a knife just a few years ago.  And some of you want them back together?  Why???   Axl may end up dead with her. 

Oh please yourself. All of the issues you raise have been discussed here before and people have either disproven them or come up with reasonable explanations for them. If you really care so much about this topic, I suggest you read the rest of the thread.

And if you don't believe what other people have to say on this issue (like I'm sure you will, because it's clear you have already made up your mind), well, that's your prerogative.

But even assuming you're right, so what? Selling some of her old belongings or giving an interview is nowhere near the level of things Axl has done. In fact, it's NOTHING compared to what Axl did to her. So excuse me for not giving much of a fuck about that. And suggesting she would kill Axl? Completely laughable.

Also, for the record, I do not want them back together. I don't really have an opinion on wether they should or shouldn't be together. It's not my life and they can do whatever they want, but like I said above, I'm not gonna judge their feelings one way or another. And that's probably the last thing I'm going to say about this, because I've better things to do than argue about this.

28 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Oh no, this isn't going to go well 

Don't worry, this is the same person who completely lost her (or his?) shit in this thread some time ago out of the blue and randomly started insulting everyone here. So since they clearly seem to be here just to stir shit, I'm inclined to just ignore them and not engage with them.

11 hours ago, Kara said:

That's what I'm thinking too because didn't she sell off his breakup letters a few years back? Like seriously, how hard up are you? Not to mention the way she teamed up with Stephanie all for the cash! And there's a lot of fans rooting for a reconciliation. I'm over here like WHY??!!

Erin did not "team up" with Stephanie. She was subpoenad by Stephanie and as one of Erin's recent posts on her Instagram made clear, she resents Stephanie for doing that to her.

This whole Erin and Axl thing is not as simple and straight-forward as some people here like to paint it as Reality rarely ever is like that. And if anyone should get criticized in this whole drama, it's Axl, and not the young girl who was in over her head with the entire situation and left a mess by the experience.

13 hours ago, Frey said:

I haven't listened to that song in ages, give me some time to listen to it again and think about it lol

?? That's not a very specific question. There are a million things about Axl and Erin that have been discussed throughout this thread. I remember there was a lot of Erin talk especially in the beginning of the thread if you want to read up on that.

 

Anyway, since we had a lot of Izzy and Axl drama recently, look at what I came across. It's a post from the gnfnr forum, but still.

"Last night @axlrose tweeted: "Happy Birthday Izzy. I still love you," but he has since deleted the tweet. Why?"

http://www.gunsnfnroses.com/index.php?/topic/22156-axls-deleted-tweet/

Anyone remember this?

Did Axl really tell Izzy "I still love you" on twitter? Seems a bit too personal for Axl.

And why "still"? What did Izzy do to piss Axl off in 2013?

 

 

57 minutes ago, Frey said:

No, I think it's true.

GNFNR is a forum full of cupcakes, but they do have actual, serious threads too and discuss shit that is actually happening.

What makes me think this is true is that it wasn't brought up in trolish for the lolz sort of way with the focus being on the message, but rather by simply asking why Axl had deleted that tweet. Thread title was "Axl's deleted tweet".

The thread descended into the usual bullshit and bickering very quickly, but I think the original question was genuine.

Yes, I clicked on the link and it seems like a genuine question to me as well, even considering the source.

Was no one here around in 2013 when this allegedly happened? @MillionsOfSpiders? @stella? Or the resident Izzy experts here? @Jane M.?  Anyone else? I've been a member of this board for a long time, but I missed a couple of years of the drama and I think this might have been one of them.

If this is true, then I think it's sweet of Axl to tell Izzy that he loves him lol.

Though I also wonder why he would be saying "I still love you". There's more drama between these two than in a Shakespear play

6 hours ago, stella said:

14 hours ago, Lumikki said:

You know, I think you can really see "old Axl" in that picture. He looks a lot like his older self there.

Also loving the bar picture. It's rare to see Axl and Izzy being the goofy/smiling ones

 

That's pretty much exactly what I imagined when Slash told that story

 

That's an awesome picture of Duff. He's a cutie!

 

I approve of this artwork interpretation.

Speaking of artwork... here's Sasha's "lovely" painting

Also please note Axl's thanks: He thanks family and friends first (meaning the Lebeises and other people because they don't get mentioned again specifically), but Sasha gets mentioned on her own somewhere down the list. Together with other people who work for Axl. Meaning Sasha is neither real family nor a friend, just some kind of employee going by that booklet

 

 

 

Thank you @Lumikki! Those booklets were certainly much more interesting than the one I have...

In terms of the thank yous, even those are different on mine! But on mine he thanks Beta and the others by name, including his siblings and Sasha. I don't know if that order means very much because he made a dedication to Sharon Maynard and she's way down on this list.

The page you quoted there is not the one you asked for though. I posted that one (along with links to all other pages in the booklets) a bit further back already, did you see it?

15 hours ago, Frey said:

It's a gift, I was born with the talent to come up with Slaxl theories.

In fact, this shirt was probably a present from Slash to Axl, judging by all the skeleton porn going on there.

 

I just thought of a theory for you on how the DADT thing/kissing soldiers relate to Slaxl:

You know how Axl used to refer to his and Slash's fight as a war? Well the the DADT/soldiers thing is like a metaphor for their relationship then.

And it even makes sense, considering that homosexuality in rock n roll and metal used to be nearly as taboo as it used to be in the military.

Nobody asked Slash and Axl about it, and they told no one about it.

Yes/No?

 

 

Lol how did I miss that!

Yes, yes, makes perfect sense, theory accepted

I also approve of the Slaxl themed Sorry interpretations you provided earlier.

And I think the thing you pointed out about If The World and Mary, mother of Jesus is probably true. I always thought ITW is about Beta/TB, and Axl totally would compare her to a saintly mother figure.

10 minutes ago, Carlycosmos said:

wow I can't believe this thread has 328 pages!  Seems like it was yesterday we were complaining in the Social Media thread about not being able to discuss some things freely  let's celebrate!
much love

CAAAARRLLLYYY!!!

YOU' RE ALIVE!!! Good to see you around again! And yeah, it seems like it was just yesterday

24 minutes ago, giuls said:

She's only the catsitter 

Oh yeah

19 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Her painting is shite and was thrown there just like when Axl got Shannon a job at the Cathouse

As for the credits, even dogs and cats are "thanked" there. fucking lol

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Hey @Frey, now that we've got into CD, can you give me your interpretation of the lyrics for I.R.S.?

(Frey and anyone else who wants to share their views )

Lol yeah, it's Axl's way of being generous lol.

IRS? Will have to think about it.

10 minutes ago, Kara said:

Haha thanks! He's extra gorgeous in the Yesterdays music video, must be the ponytail! Kinda makes me wanna see Axl with short hair. I saw someone post in another thread that he should cut his hair and I'm all for that 

He is indeed extra gorgeous in the Yesterdays video. It's one of my all time favorite Axl looks.