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LOL really.. no shit? You mean people don't like a 6 minute wannabe epic, with the first 3 minutes of it being a bunch of rap/rock bullshit that went out of style in 1998? Color me shocked.

The only people who think these songs are gonna be "groundbreaking" are the Axlites on this board.

Howard took the day off today so um.. yeah it's BS.

This is great news but I caution people not to get TOO excited about this. Nothing with Axl Rose is actually 100% confirmed until we SEE HIM ON THE STAGE. Anything can happen between now and then, especially with Guns N' Roses.

Sounds a little far fetched. Madagascar was performed 4 years ago and may have been written well before that and he never got "approval" until now?

The people who complain about this HIP-HOP beats are the left overs of 80's era............who cares about them?!....they can always listen to Def Leppard new CD....or Cuntraband!

Or maybe they're just people that.. don't like Hip Hop?

The hip hop garbage in the songs is terrible. That *BOOM BOOM CLAP* shit in T.W.A.T makes me want to pull my hair out.

If I wanted to listen to Rap/Rock I'd buy a fuckin' Limp Bizkit CD. Stick to what you know, Axl.

Robin Finck.. sometimes he sounds great and other times he sounds terrible.

Richard Fortus.. he's decent enough I suppose, and he seems to enjoy being in the band. He always seemed to be smiling and laughing during the live performances.

None of them can pull of Bucket's solos though.

Fine - Nine Inch Nails, Linkin Park, Marilyn Manson, Audiolux. There's your specific examples, and those are just right off the top of my head without even really thinking about it. Those are all bands who use the kind of samples and effects that you hear in the "Better" intro, and the guitar playing is nothing better than ANY band playing in the radio.

"Better" doesn't even belong in the same sentence, paragraph, or post as SCOM, November Rain and WTTJ.

Yes, but I agree.

IT'S ABOUT KURT LODER!!!!

HUH? That song isn't better than any song from AFD or UYI except "Get In The Ring" and "My World".

But, as you said, it's your opinion.

But THATS part of what makes the song so fucking cool. Could you imagine any other rock band starting off a song with that sound

I can think of TONS of bands starting a song like that. (i.e. any industrial rock band in the universe)

you haven't even listened to the full better so how can you possibly make that judgment?

From the 2:06 I've heard I've gotten a pretty good feel for the song. Even though it isn't the entire thing, I doubt anything drastic is going to change within the rest of the song. There's nothing special at all about it, you can turn on the radio and hear any song like that. The only thing that separates it from other songs is Axl's voice.

Dude - give me some examples please? What else out there sounds like BETTER??? And don't just tell me "everything" or name a band. Give me some specific examples. Cuz I can't think of anything out there that sounds like it. Thanks.

I didn't mean there's a song out there that sounds exactly like better, as in if you heard the song you'd go, "Hey that sounds like Better!"

I mean, there's nothing about the song that stands out. The guitar playing is subpar at BEST. It's a simple guitar riff that can be heard on any radio station in america. The intro is something that sounds like a Nine Inch Nails b-side. Linkin Park's instrumentals are more creative than the ones in this song, there's just nothing about this song that stands out about this song except Axl's voice.

you haven't even listened to the full better so how can you possibly make that judgment?

From the 2:06 I've heard I've gotten a pretty good feel for the song. Even though it isn't the entire thing, I doubt anything drastic is going to change within the rest of the song. There's nothing special at all about it, you can turn on the radio and hear any song like that. The only thing that separates it from other songs is Axl's voice.

I just have to add in something as I'm listening to TWAT right now, that whole *BOOM BOOM CLAP* thing in the song drives me f'ing INSANE. Seriously, that was a fad in rap songs in like the mid 90's to make it sound better when you're bumping a rap song in your car, why is Axl using this in the 2000's in a ROCK song?! That is driving me up the wall.

"Better" will be a hit because it sounds like everything else on the radio right now.

"The Blues" is the single that will launch this record to superstardom.

That is SO LAME, seriously.

Couldn't they only sue if you guys were profiting off the lyrics? Like selling them to people or making people pay to see them?

I'm sure this statement will come within the next few days..

"The album is almost complete. Axl is putting on the finishing touches. 2006 is the year of Guns N' Roses"

I just heard it on 103.5 Mercksabitch in New Jersey.

I asked Merck about this, and he said that all radio stations had been sent "cease and desist" letters.

I'll start a new thread about this - so that people can post radio stations that are still playing the track.

I'm sure everyone is just going to be thrilled to assist him.

BTW, the demo disc had 8 songs, not 7. If you play the songs in iTunes and look at the song info it says there's 8 tracks.

Sorry, I don't believe it.

First of all, the leaked IRS isn't even 100% studio quality or mixed properly, so if that's the song that's on the album there are bigger problems than just when the damn thing gets released.

Secondly, the WAAF station has kept saying while playing the song that they aren't sure if this is the new Guns N' Roses single, but they admit they found it online and are going to play it until their lawyers tell them not to.

If it was planned beforehand they would have hyped it beforehand instead of just, "Oh hey guess what, we found a new Guns N Roses song online!!"

Hey does anyone know the next two lines Axl says in T.W.A.T after

"I was the one who gave you everything, the one who took the fall

You were the one who would do anything, the one who can recall".

Theyre kind of hard to make out.

Hey, anyone have a pic of Beta? Is she hot?

CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

*or in 2007

Who cares dude, it's been 10 years. Im tired of getting dicked around with the CD.

Trent Reznor leaked those to his fans so they could remix them and do whatever they wanted.