ashbalove

No, i'm just sayin'

Maybe you're right on that Username "i'm setting myself up for disappointment", but the hype was made by several people within the ban already and Sebastian!

Ask a casual GN'R fan if he/she has heard about The General...

There's no 'hype' about the song other than a few quotes that only we at the forums know about.

I haven't heard news on the general. the song might not even exist.

BBF doesn't bullshit us and you'll see it on the link

No, i'm just sayin'

You sound like you have insider info we don't. I'm sayin' there hasn't been info released on the next record. Axl is touring. Axl isn't talking about a new record.

Im quite hot with an APRIL 2013 release of CD II.

Some MSL rumours n other thru inthernet hinted april as a fail intent of a re-release of CD in the US.

Ron n Richard have talked about songs these days (The General, Jackie Chan, Atlas, Going Down)

http://inthejungle.fr.yuku.com/topic/25526#.UUfnIByCVwY

n theres a gap between end of march and may (shows in the US).

Itd be a dream to stop this boring nightmare. Guns its never been so less exciting than this.

Pray for a reset n a neeew GNR episode.

Fingers crossed!

I find it highly suspicious. David Bowie, Eric Clapton, and Bon Jovi have released new CDs this year. But they did it with proper public promotion and stuff for releases. One month time is not enough time for the next guns record.

We started hearing about the Chinese Democracy release a month before the album came out. So, it's not out of the question.

Although I highly doubt it'll happen.

I hightly doubt it'll happen too. Axl is touring in Aussie. Where's the time for a new record in a month?

For all we no the music has been recorded and completed for a long time and all it needs to do is be mastered ... this could be in the process as we speak

If it were true, BBF would've addressed it in the latest viral video he's made for the internet. In his latest viral video, BBF says "I'm not going to bullshit you and nothing has been written or recorded by current guns n roses." I go by this

The General better be that damn good, because if it comes to be a disappointment, with all the hype in it... the album might fail.

The album will never fail on sales, but could very well fail in terms of the music itself. If that does happen, New GNR is finished, so they really have to pull out a hit out of that one.

You know something we don't?

who cares at this point

Thousands

Thousands care. Thousands don't know what's going to be on the next record. I don't know either. I don't even trust rumored songs will be on since BBF doesn't want those songs out.

It's a fact that there is songs: The General, Jackie Chan, Soul monster, silkworms etc...

If those songs exist, doesn't mean Axl puts them on the next record.

Ask Axl the title of the next record, what songs are on it, and if it's coming out this year or if it's not ready for release soon

There's no way of knowing it, no. We're just guessing it at this point.

I know. We don't know anything about the next record.

We know a couple of songs that are probably being included in the next record. We don't know for sure, what the song list will be like

What songs has Axl said that'll be for sure on the next record?

None. ARC mixes up opinion with facts.

That's what I thought. We don't know any songs that'll be on the next record.

There's no way of knowing it, no. We're just guessing it at this point.

I know. We don't know anything about the next record.

We know a couple of songs that are probably being included in the next record. We don't know for sure, what the song list will be like

What songs has Axl said that'll be for sure on the next record?

Silkworms comes from a band that doesn't exist anymore. I doubt BBF and DJ Ashba are on silkworms studio. I don't see Axl releasing this song unless BBF and DJ accept its release

Silkworms was co-written by Pittman and Dizzy, who are still current members. I don't think BBF and DJ would cockblock them like that.

I know BBF and DJ want to move forward with songs that don't include the previous band. that includes pittman and dizzy. I'm sure they wouldn't take it hard since they're friends and hang out together

There's no way of knowing it, no. We're just guessing it at this point.

I know. We don't know anything about the next record.

Silkworms comes from a band that doesn't exist anymore. I doubt BBF and DJ Ashba are on silkworms studio. I don't see Axl releasing this song unless BBF and DJ accept its release

Ashbalove, yes that's what bbf wants, but he might not be in a position to have any influence on what the next album turns out to be. Nothing you are suggesting is wrong, but you might have interpreted bbf's comments as what will happen, whereas he is just suggesting what he thinks the next album should be.

BBF is a member of the current band. i'd think he'd have a lot of influence on what songs axl lays on the next record

He certainly has an opinion on it. But it all comes down to Axl!

And we don't know what Axl wants with the next record

Ashbalove, yes that's what bbf wants, but he might not be in a position to have any influence on what the next album turns out to be. Nothing you are suggesting is wrong, but you might have interpreted bbf's comments as what will happen, whereas he is just suggesting what he thinks the next album should be.

BBF is a member of the current band. i'd think he'd have a lot of influence on what songs axl lays on the next record

it's cool BBF recorded some guitar parts on unreleased tracks. despite that, BBF is pushing for all new songs. with more than some added tweaks on leftover tracks from him. i don't think atlas will be on the next record. BBF wants songs featuring him. no previous guitarists no longer in guns n roses. i don't see atlas getting released. probably buckethead has solos on atlas too. what i see being released with BBF's comments in the viral video is songs he writes and records with the current band.

I think a good question ask BBF is whether or not he recorded parts for any songs that didn't make it onto the album back before CD was released.

Great question. Would set the record straight.

Oh please.

This thread is basically the same as "what rumoured song titles are there" and it's all based on nothing anyway.

Completely pointless, especially for an album that doesn't exist.

Username - Most of them are not rumoured song titles. Most of them are CONFIRMED song working titles (even though they are subject to change, they were confirmed by Axl). Soul Monster, Jackie Chan, The General, Silkworms, Ides of March etc etc...they were all confirmed by Axl that existed. The only thing Axl said, was that he could change the song names if he pleases. Those songs exist!

Ashbalove - Bumblefoot did not say that this songs didn't exist! He said that the CURRENT band hasn't recorded anything yet (totally different). He also acknowledge that there are songs recorded by other artists (previous to him) and he doesn't consider those songs really to be new...

You're saying the current band will accept the next album having none of their written or recorded songs on it?

Oh please.

This thread is basically the same as "what rumoured song titles are there" and it's all based on nothing anyway.

Completely pointless, especially for an album that doesn't exist.

Exactly. BBF says these songs don't exist. BBF hasn't written or recorded these rumored songs

Axl may well be in a difficult position regarding new releases. If a lot of time and money has been spent on the stuff in the vault and he considers it to be good material I can see why he would want to go with that. I can also imagine that guys like BBF and Ashba would want to write and release their own stuff from a career and royalties perspective. They are probably not thrilled at the prospect of promoting and touring for another 5 years with more second hand music however good it might be.

Imagine the situation if CD2 is released and Ashba is interviewed about it, standard questions are usually about what inspired the lyrics, the process of making it etc... What's he going to say? The only way it would vaguely work is if Axl promoted it himself and he doesn't seem fond of doing that these days.

As has been mentioned before some sort of deluxe Chinese boxset would be a good option, it would recoup some money, give fans a chance to hear the stuff then follow quickly after with an awesome album from the current line up and tour that.

That's what I would do if I ruled Axl's world!

If Axl decides to release good stuff unreleased from the Vault, BBF and DJ would be put in difficult positions with interviews talking about it. Because it wouldn't be their material on the record.

Yes that's my point. What would they say when asked about it? It seems an unfair position to put them in and I suspect this is why BBF is fairly vocal about wanting to write and record. A release of more CD material would also bring Buckethead and Finck back into the GNR spotlight which is something they need to avoid if they want focus on the current line up. Buckethead and Finck may not want this either.

Seems like Axl wants chinese leftovers on the next record. Or else instead of touring in Aussie, BBF would be writing and recording new music with DJ and Axl. Maybe Axl wants all the take home food out before new material is achieved.

Axl may well be in a difficult position regarding new releases. If a lot of time and money has been spent on the stuff in the vault and he considers it to be good material I can see why he would want to go with that. I can also imagine that guys like BBF and Ashba would want to write and release their own stuff from a career and royalties perspective. They are probably not thrilled at the prospect of promoting and touring for another 5 years with more second hand music however good it might be.

Imagine the situation if CD2 is released and Ashba is interviewed about it, standard questions are usually about what inspired the lyrics, the process of making it etc... What's he going to say? The only way it would vaguely work is if Axl promoted it himself and he doesn't seem fond of doing that these days.

As has been mentioned before some sort of deluxe Chinese boxset would be a good option, it would recoup some money, give fans a chance to hear the stuff then follow quickly after with an awesome album from the current line up and tour that.

That's what I would do if I ruled Axl's world!

If Axl decides to release good stuff unreleased from the Vault, BBF and DJ would be put in difficult positions with interviews talking about it. Because it wouldn't be their material on the record.

BBF doesn't bullshit us. And BBF says the honest truth is a new record won't be out for a long time. Because BBF, DJ, Richard, Tommy, and Axl haven't written songs together. Which means the songs listed so far for CD 2 won't be the next record. The next record will be songs they actually do sit down and write together as a band.

The impression I had from Ron's comments was that the only new material that would be released anytime soon is material from the previous lineup. He was expressing his disappointment in the possibility of new material being released from a lineup that doesn't exist anymore, instead of the current lineup writing new songs from scratch together. That's how I understood it anyway.

I understood it as BBF saying new material from previous lineup is from a guns n roses band which doesn't exist anymore. Which means BBF wants new material released from the Guns N Roses that exists and has been touring in Aussie. Tells me BBF wants the current lineup to sit down together and write new material from scratch.

Yeah were both at the same conclusion but from two different perspectives.

You're saying what BBF wants the next album to be, which is new material composed by the current lineup.

I'm saying what BBF doesn't want, which is a new album containing songs composed/recorded by a lineup which doesn't exist (even though people like Tommy and Dizzy have probably contributed heavily to any existing new songs because they were there in the transition period from about 96-98 and since).

Sorry for any misunderstanding on my part.

If your understanding is true, Axl's got a tough decision to make on what material will be the next record.

BBF doesn't bullshit us. And BBF says the honest truth is a new record won't be out for a long time. Because BBF, DJ, Richard, Tommy, and Axl haven't written songs together. Which means the songs listed so far for CD 2 won't be the next record. The next record will be songs they actually do sit down and write together as a band.

The impression I had from Ron's comments was that the only new material that would be released anytime soon is material from the previous lineup. He was expressing his disappointment in the possibility of new material being released from a lineup that doesn't exist anymore, instead of the current lineup writing new songs from scratch together. That's how I understood it anyway.

I understood it as BBF saying new material from previous lineup is from a guns n roses band which doesn't exist anymore. Which means BBF wants new material released from the Guns N Roses that exists and has been touring in Aussie. Tells me BBF wants the current lineup to sit down together and write new material from scratch.

BBF doesn't bullshit us. And BBF says the honest truth is a new record won't be out for a long time. Because BBF, DJ, Richard, Tommy, and Axl haven't written songs together. Which means the songs listed so far for CD 2 won't be the next record. The next record will be songs they actually do sit down and write together as a band.

Changed this deceiving thread title. Carry on.

Yeah. Let's carry on.