Hollywood Gunner

anyone know if the festival passes sold out yet ? still contemplating going to this but i just forked out $140 for the montreal show and i dont wanna fork out another $75 + gas and expenses... $30 is a steal though if you ask me... also looks like a few less people will be going to this now that theyre playing metropolis

They won't be able to sold out this year. But if you look on Kijiji and even on Twitter, people are selling their passes after they saw the show they wanted to see.

kijiji !! lol forgot about that... good idea, thanks !

Id support the band if i liked their music... id find it pretty tough to swallow if it went the TB route tho lol

Axl's band to me is fakeGnR - seems more like a corproate entity than a down-n-dirty rock band like they were when they were GnR before the mass exodus'

Of course they were more awesome in the 80 s n 90s, so were all the other bands... bottom line is i dont think slash woulda been slash if axl wasnt around, and axl wouldnt be axl without slash... the shit they do now without each other is meh but i still like it

Yeah, slash does some head scratching shit @ times but so does everyone.....lol - he does though take care of his fans - he puts out albums regularly, when he says somethings gonna happen, it happens (cd, dvd, setlist changes, live sound board cd's available for alot of 2010 shows, etc.), keeps fans reasonably informed of his bands plans, puts on great live shows, plays shit from his entire catologue, etc. and the list goes on.....or the exact opposite of axl and fakeGnR

slash is fucking awesome, so is axl... and so are what you refer to as fakeGnR - come to think of it idk why in the fuck everyones so caught up on the axl vs. Slash beef? Thats between them... i aint pickin sides, i love them both - maybe the "idiots" axl was referring to are the people that pick sides in a feud they know nothing about?

I assumed he was talking about people on forums. As soon as CD came out, people were like ok wheres the next one?

That could have been annoying since they hadnt even toured it.

I think it was more than annoying to Axl considering how hard it was for him to get that record out and -- supposedly -- what a hellish journey it was for him to make it. I think it infuriated and hurt him.

How is people wanting more of your work a bad thing and how would it "hurt" you?

Nice.

Only on this forum is it considered a bad thing to wish your favorite artist released more music and was more fan-friendly.

I believe this is why all the pathological hatred for slash from axl nuthuggers / apologists / and tru fakeGnR fans --- because they are so fucking jealous slash does what they wish axl would do, but never will.

You mean play the theme song for the angry birds video game right?

Didnt axl sue over that?

No that was guitar hero cuz they used wttj without his consent... actually i think he said ok if they gave him his own game but didnt or some shit... the angry birds theme was this year i think

Who gives a flying fuck about angry birds anyway? Other than you apparantly

i think slash gives a fuck lol nice edit tho

I assumed he was talking about people on forums. As soon as CD came out, people were like ok wheres the next one?

That could have been annoying since they hadnt even toured it.

I think it was more than annoying to Axl considering how hard it was for him to get that record out and -- supposedly -- what a hellish journey it was for him to make it. I think it infuriated and hurt him.

How is people wanting more of your work a bad thing and how would it "hurt" you?

Nice.

Only on this forum is it considered a bad thing to wish your favorite artist released more music and was more fan-friendly.

I believe this is why all the pathological hatred for slash from axl nuthuggers / apologists / and tru fakeGnR fans --- because they are so fucking jealous slash does what they wish axl would do, but never will.

You mean play the theme song for the angry birds video game right?

I've thought it's more like Jordan with the Wizards.

Pretty much this... i guess cuz he owned the team lol

what i wouldnt give to see them play one in a million... not only cuz i love that song, but i just wanna see axl do some controversial shit again... theres been a few little things here n there, but i want him to go fuckin overboard lol play some new shit or somethin

thanks bacardimayne and amir for posting those pics... never read those before, and think of it what you will, but if i had went to that extent and wanted that included with my very largely anticipated album, and it wasnt ? well... id be pretty fuckin pissed too and wouldnt wanna release another album with that label EVER !

they're like co-workers

FINALLY someone got it right.

Almost any band i can think of are "like" co-workers... its their job. They have to be. But i think co-workers tend to be a little less tight when they work a second job... just my 2 cents

How so? I don't hang out with my co-workers after work, I don't see them on weekends, we're not involved in each other's lives AT ALL, aside from working together.

Contrary to your statement, I can't think of any successful bands who are simple co-workers and who don't have anything to do with each other when they're not rehearsing or on stage together.

in response to your first paragraph well... it really depends where you work

in response to the second, i agree... key word being SUCCESSFUL

Goodbye maynard you were an inspiration too so many around here. Always so pleasent,always in our hearts,good bye dear friend and may you're journey be one of hope and happiness and may you find you're new calling whatever it may be.

Shut the fuck up WARCHILD. You're a piece of shit and this account will be banned pretty soon. Count on that, you psycho.

I don't think this poster is Warchild. Only a complete psycho pathetic crazy person would keep coming back under new accounts to a forum they were banned from. Warchild was crazy, but surely she wouldn't be that pathetic.

i may be outta line here to touch on this subject since im new here and dont really know any of you, but i dont really see the point in banning someone, if they could just come back under another name... and more than likely will, out of spite alone... i mean the mods cant really just let everything go so, banning a name is really the only recourse they have... unless theyre actually able to ban ones IP address (which ive seen done on other forums) but yeah, like i said, im new around here... only joined in 2010 when gnr finally came back to my city... then i went quiet till they announced they were coming back... im here for the love of the music, but clearly some people arent... im not gonna call that maynard guy out, cuz a) he never insulted me directly and b) i dont know him, or anyone else here for that matter... but what ive read in my short time here from that guy was all negative... sure hes entitled to his opinion, but to state it over and overrrrrrr lol i mean... im sure the mods werent the only ones losing their patience with him... either way, life goes on... if he does come back under another name, well the one POSITIVE thing to come out of all this would be that we dont have to look at his godawful profile pic anymore lol

When's the next album?

Have no idea and don't care. Hopefully, we'll be working 'Chinese' for a good bit. Of course there's the same idiots that have been around forever already demanding release dates.

So, first he says he doesn't care about a new album and then calls some group "idiots". Who do you think Axl was talking about here? Do you know other artists who call people interested in their work "idiots" like Axl did?

Dont think hes calling everyone interested in his work idiots... dont see how anyone would think hes talking about the hardcore fanbase at all... also depends alot on when this is from... if it was 2009 or something well...

First off, he did say DEMANDING release dates (if this quote is actually verbatim) now idk bout you, but im not demanding anything... if he puts out new music, great! but i dont feel entitled to anything and im happy just listening to the 6 albums he has put out

I DO think hes being a total dick for no good reason, but hey thats one of the reasons i love the guy lol imo hes probably referring to the media, tabloids, people looking for an exclusive story to further their career etc. probably even the guy who did this interview... or anyone in his mind who doesnt want him to succeed, so yeah the list is probably pretty long lol

Good stuff! Nice vid. Thanks for the link

they're like co-workers

FINALLY someone got it right.

Almost any band i can think of are "like" co-workers... its their job. They have to be. But i think co-workers tend to be a little less tight when they work a second job... just my 2 cents

Izzy said it 'obviously was not guns n' roses' and that Axl was a little ginger geek who never got any action at high school. It was a classic rock interview from 2001.

then he played with them in vegas last year lol

I wouldn't mind seeing Frank as the drummer for a reunion.

How many shows did you see during the UYI tour?

2 why do you ask? I've seen them with every drummer except Steven. After seeing Steven with his band I realize I didn't miss anything.

id rather see adler if there was a reunion... sorum may be a better drummer but id just rather see steven behind the kit just because

anyone know if the festival passes sold out yet ? still contemplating going to this but i just forked out $140 for the montreal show and i dont wanna fork out another $75 + gas and expenses... $30 is a steal though if you ask me... also looks like a few less people will be going to this now that theyre playing metropolis

Duff and Gilby were recording solo albums during the Illusion tour which I have always found strange in itself as, surely all of your ideas should be pooled for the next gnr record. I remember somebody saying that, once the solo albums arrive it is over.

yeah my point exactly... duffs album was great and i still listen to it, but was it the beginning of the end ? gilby imo was just as much a hired gun as dj, ron, frank, tommy and richard though... and i still bought the album lol it didnt really hinder gnr as much as duffs solo venture but honestly, if any of them were serious about new music, theyd be doing that, and that alone

why don't we all bring a perfect crime sign to that gig?! hehe

as much as id love to see it, i dont think that big rig can fit enough oxygen for him to perform that song lol j/k main reason i dont wanna bring a sign is cuz i need both hands to hold drinks

It doesn't seem like they hang out together in their GnR off time, as they are all busy doing their side projects.

ive said it before and ill say it again... i think these side projects are another reason we havnt seen new music... sure you could say they have no choice to do side projects cuz axl doesnt wanna sit down with them and write... its easy to blame axl... but really, do you think if they all got together, dropped the other shit they were doing and told axl "look motherfucker, were done with our other bullshit, its time to sit down and make new music" you think hed really say no ?

were duff, slash, izzy or steven working on their own shit between the time afd and uyi's came out ?

The problem though with nugnr is they never have had a period when they have gelled.

says who ? if im not mistaken, classic gnr toured the west coast when they first formed the band and thats where the chemistry developed... or as you called it, thats where they "gelled" - i think the current band has been on tour long enough to say they have chemistry... may not be the chemistry the old band had since they werent exactly hitchiking across the country, but im sure theyve developed some sort of chemistry to say the least... theyve put on some awesome fukcin shows together... and some bad ones (just like any other band) imo this endless tour wasnt to fund a new album (they have enough cash for that already) it was to build the chemistry up to be able to write together... and i dont give a shit what any of the naysayers wanna write here, we WILL see new music in the next few years and itll have a definite leg up on chinese democracy, since THAT band hadnt really toured as much as this one has

I meant as a songwriting entity. None of us can have any idea about, whether Bumblefoot, Ashba and co can write and record together because Axl pulls the strings and right now, Axl is too lazy to release an album. All this band have done is shown that they can play other people's songs in a competent manner.

i dont necessarily disagree with this, apart from axl being too lazy... personally i dont think thats the reason we havnt seen new music, so much as the fact that hes a perfectionist and doesnt wanna realease halfass shit... if he were lazy, i dont think hed be touring so much... could be wrong, but i think he has enough money to comfortably retire... so why the touring then ? and if im wrong and hes not as financially comfortable as i think he is, well wouldnt he just set up a permanent residency in vegas like some of the other shitty acts in that city ? fuck, im a lazy guy myself and thats what id do if i were him and just needed cash lol imo i think he knows what hes doing and its not just cuz i like the guy

oh... also forgot to add.. about axl pulling the strings... hasnt he always ?

He hasn't performed perfect crime with the band. But the band has used the song for sound check so they could play it if he wanted too sing it

id love to see that kinda energy out of axl again... thats one fuckin kick ass song... would also love to see alot of the other uptempo uyi stuff thrown into setlists... right next door to hell, back off bitch, double talkin jive... garden of eden ? lol

The problem though with nugnr is they never have had a period when they have gelled.

says who ? if im not mistaken, classic gnr toured the west coast when they first formed the band and thats where the chemistry developed... or as you called it, thats where they "gelled" - i think the current band has been on tour long enough to say they have chemistry... may not be the chemistry the old band had since they werent exactly hitchiking across the country, but im sure theyve developed some sort of chemistry to say the least... theyve put on some awesome fukcin shows together... and some bad ones (just like any other band) imo this endless tour wasnt to fund a new album (they have enough cash for that already) it was to build the chemistry up to be able to write together... and i dont give a shit what any of the naysayers wanna write here, we WILL see new music in the next few years and itll have a definite leg up on chinese democracy, since THAT band hadnt really toured as much as this one has

hell yeah! just found money to go! I won't go to quebec though. can't have it all! hope tickets won't sold out in 2 minutes!

Montreal is in Quebec

I know i live between quebec city and montreal

Where at?

If I'd had more time to plan, I would have drove up and hung with Monty!

This is so last minute. I honestly thinking about missing the show. With taxes and other fees that's 200$. That means that if I go with my wife, it's at least a 600$ show.

Now that's a lot of money. I saw that show about 8 times, not sure that I'm willing to invest more at this point.

trois-rivières

Was there yesterday! Let me know if you come at the show!

I do! I go with 4 friends! gonna bring a Oh my god/perfect crime sign for axl

perfect crime would be another awesome song to see, but i dont think hes ever performed it with the current line-up has he ?

i wanna see rocket queen and estranged... i hope they play at least one of those two songs, but both would be so fuckin awesome !

It is the *phrase* for "democracy" in Chinese.

There is no literal 1-to-1 translation for "democracy", so it is more like "freedom of the people" or whatever english definition you would describe "democracy".

So, if you wanted a Chinese translation for "Chinese Democracy", you would simply just write "democracy" (freedom of the people) in Chinese.

Get it?

I think axl believed in that phrase so much, he just had to "free" all the original band members