Yesterdays-Civil-War

slash woudnt want anything to do with axl

Seriously? Slash would kill to be in a room that Axl was in 10 minutes before. I know this cuz I know Slash and he's my best friend and we like to go to the park and fly kites and talk about Axl!

Axl hates--h-a-t-e-s--Slash. Slash doesn't hate, and probably has little (to no) ill will towards Axl.

There is no disputing that Axl hates Slash, and I feel there is very little room for disputing that Slash doesn't hate Axl. Slash has been touting passive aggressive comments at Axl for years (which have been discussed to death on these boards), and then there was the whole showing up to Axl's place in 2005 (if I remember the year correctly), hell he even jokingly called Axl a "little bastard" (and if memory serves me correct referred to him as "my boy" as well) in a radio interview in 2000 or 2001. Slash doesn't really show any deep disdain for Axl, like Axl shows for him.

With the above stated, and just being cognizant of both men's lives since the split, my opinion is that Slash would really like to bury the hatchet with Axl and move forward musically with him, and the fact that Axl doesn't feel the same way really does hurt Slash.

We discussed all this last April as we flew kites in Singapore. I decided against bringing my mom with us, so I saved him a little trouble.

slash woudnt want anything to do with axl

Seriously? Slash would kill to be in a room that Axl was in 10 minutes before.

Axl hates--h-a-t-e-s--Slash. Slash doesn't hate, and probably has little (to no) ill will towards Axl.

I love Going Down

I love DJ Better

I like Bumble Better

I hate Blood (its a fake)

BITW is absolutely legit. If you've heard the other remix clips, it's clear they're all in the same vein and clearly the work product of Brain.

I think Bumble said BITH was a fake

BITW was also in Axl's Twitter profile for quite some time before the leak. I feel like that alone tells us what we need to know about the legitimacy of that song.

Well, we know that if this story was utter falsehood that Ron would have denied it by now.

I'm not saying he is leaving (yes that is exactly what I'm saying) but there is a good chance that he could still be trying to work things out with Ax before he truly calls it a day, and that could be what is delaying his response.

Jungle.

It's just so powerful. I can't even describe it. I hear it all the time and I never really get tired of it. If I had one song to show someone what hard rock was all about, I would show them WTTJ; it is the quintessential song of the genre.

Coma is a GN'R spectacle; excellent guitar tracks, phenomenal lyrics--the song is perfect/10.

Slash is a caricature, and he knows it.

Axl himself fondly said that slash is his "favorite cartoon character".

See South Park.

You guys still believe in Slash?

I always cringe when people use "swag" "yolo" etc. in a non-ironic sense.

Ashba Swag! Ha, that's hilarious!

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Wait, he's serious?

I'm glad for the name change, it sounds much more professional.

Funny stuff, but I can't imagine buying the album and actually listening to it regularly.

Exactly how I feel about Weird Al. He's really talented, and I found his stuff funny, but for most of it a few listens is more than enough.

_{I'll sing one, and you sing one, and we'll do this 45 times...}

Duff is the only former GN'R that works for those progressive songs; he was on board to go in that direction in the late 90s anway.I.R.S. and TWAT are really the only songs I see that Slash and Izzy/Gilby would own.

Duff hit it out of the park, not just on CD songs, but on anything. ISE just sounded right when Duff played the opening riff.

I used to really like Scraped and Riad, now they've become something I skip quite frequently. Same with KOHD, and Reckless Life. November Rain is one of those songs I really need to be in the mood for.

On the other hand, I can never get tired of Estranged, Breakdown, Yesterdays, or TWAT.

Well fuck me.

Thanks for not being a tyrant through the years HV. You're a good, fair man.

I think you guys are taking what Broski is saying the wrong way. (I never thought I'd say that).

Put in a lighter way: Praising Duff, and subsequently having wet dreams about a reunion of any kind, just hinders any chance of this band actually moving forward--out of the nostalgia direction.

Are you guys hoping for some of the older songs to be released or some recently written material? I would prefer hearing the older stuff

Half and half, definite curiosity to hear the CD era material but I also want this band to be legitimized by writing and recording their very own songs.

How old is this, exactly?

Matt has been talking a lot lately, hasn't he?

Exactly what I was thinking. Quite frankly, I wish he'd stop.

Here's the thing - unless Frank says that he is finishing up the new record then I'm not going to hold my breath because Brain has been out of the picture for what 6 years now? That means all of his drum parts have to be re-recorded by Frank now, right?

That would all be up to Axl. We still have Bucket on CD even though he was out of the band for several years before its release.

I suppose a more apples to apples comparison would be Josh Freese; are any of his drum tracks on CD?

I prefer Axl's vision over Slash's. The UYI Tour was epic in theatrics, while the AFD tour was epic in energy.

I lol'd when Axl was looking around. His body language screamed, "Uhh, Robin?"

That was priceless.

Once again ...

This thread is like beating a dead horse ... pure cowardice.

But, we couldn't expect more from some cowards who follow like dogs their coward lord.

Well, at least, now I know what kind of behavior is cool around here.

I shall not forget.

I think magisme just came off as more sincere in his attempt to start a thread like this.

Not saying I disagree with you, but I think there were better ways you could have gone about making your thread.

He says the most bizarre things sometimes.

he wanted to change more than nightrain

This is what I was thinking of while reading. When I read "Nightrain" in the book, I said to myself, "Doesn't he mean Jungle?"

I was a little taken aback at how often he bags on Gene, I didn't see that coming.

I remember reading all the news articles titled "Paul Stanley Felt Betrayed by Gene Simmons" or something to that effect, a few weeks before the book come out. It definitely help sell a few copies.

They have to have one hell of a strong relationship for Paul to be able to air all his grievances, past and present, against Gene in his book. I don't remember anything of the sort in Gene's book; he told the truth about Ace and Peter, but it didn't seem like there was much to say about Paul other than his adoration for him.

While Paul and Gene always put their own spin on things, for the most part, they have to be given the benefit of the doubt because they were the only sober ones at the time. Not just in their band, but on the scene in general. I would take Paul's word over anybody else's in the business--he has the sobriety of Gene without all the "I's."

What's the time frame for all of this? Like when and where did Slash says these things as compared to when and where they happened?

lol Salsh

I'm not 100% on what you're asking. The timeline for the first story was '82. The second story was '86. As for Slash's commentary on these events, I haven't a clue other than "decades later."

I didn't think this thread was important enough to be in the main section so I put it here. Just some tidbits I thought I'd share with y'all. For whatever it's worth, I really enjoyed Paul's book and I find it to be one of the better autobiographies I've read to date. It blows Gene's, but especially Ace and Peter's, out of the water.

“Another person I spoke to was a really sweet young kind named Saul Hudson. He told me his mom had been a seamstress for David Bowie and that his friends called him ‘Slash.’ He was very well spoken and engaging, but he seemed really young. Finally I asked him how old he was. ‘I’ll be seventeen next month’ he said. I had turned thirty earlier that year, and Gene was twice this kid’s age. ‘You know,’ I said, ‘you sound like a great guy, but I think you’re too young for this.’ I wish him well and always remembered him because he was so nice and unaffected.” Pg.273, Paul speaking out on finding Ace’s replacement

“Howard Marks, our business manager, called me one afternoon and said he’d gotten a call from Tom Zutaut, an A&R man famous for siging Motley Crue. ‘Tom just signed this band,’ Howard said, ‘and wanted to know if you want to go check them out. They’re looking for a producer.’
Well, Gene was off making another movie. We weren’t going to work on the next record until the following year. Why not?
Howard came with me to meet the band—a bunch of young guys called Guns N’ Roses. We had arranged to meet them at an apartment their manager had rented for them near the corner of La Cienega and Fountain. I introduced bald, pot-bellied Howard as my bodyguard, as a joke; but after looking around for a few minutes, I could see why they didn’t get it.

Izzy was unconscious, with drool coming out of the side of his mouth. It wasn’t clear whether he was sleeping or dead—that’s how rough he looked. Duff and Steven were very nice, and Steven was just flowing about what a big KISS fan he was. I didn’t realize that the half-comatose, curly-headed lead guitar player who called himself Slash was what had become of the sweet kid I’d spoken to during the interviews before the recording of Creatures a few years earlier. Then Axl chatted with me and played a few songs on a crappy cassette player they had lying around.
When he played ‘Nightrain’ I thought it was really good, but I told him that maybe the chorus could be used a pre-chorus instead, and there could be another chorus added afterwards. That was the last time he ever spoke to me. Ever.
Slash roused himself, and he and I started talking about the Stones. I show him Keith’s five-string open-G tuning, which was the set-up Keith used to write all his stuff. I took a string off and retuned a guitar, and he thought it was very cool. I also offered to help Slash get in touch with people who could hook him up with some free guitars—we were sponsored by all sorts of instrument companies, and I figured a young guy like him could use some help getting equipment to record with.

That night, I went to see their gig at Raji’s, a little dive in Hollywood. I thought the song they had played for me were good, but they didn’t prepare me for seeing their band live. Guns N’ Roses were stupendous. I was shocked, given the collection of wastoids I’d seen earlier that afternoon, and I immediately realized I was witnessing true greatness.
I went to see them perform again at another club, called Gazzarri’s—it later became the Key Club. They weren’t happy with the guy mixing their sound, and Slash asked me out of the blue to help out. Decades later, Slash’s recollections of the night would be faulty at best. He liked to pretend I had dared to meddle with their sound. God forbid this guy from KISS would have anything to do with Guns—I mean, what could be worse than a guy from KISS, of all things? He also recalled that I had a blond trophy wife with me. But I wasn’t married and was in fact there with a short brunette named Holly Knight, who was a songwriter famous for ‘Love Is a Battlefield,” among other hits. There is obviously a reason why defense attorneys never want to put alcoholics or drug addicts on the witness stand.

That was years later of course. Immediately after my interactions with the band, I started to hear lots of stories Slash was saying behind my back—he called me gay, made fun of my clothes, all sorts of things designed to give himself some sort of rock credibility at my expense. This was years before his top hat, sunglasses, and dangling cigarette became a cartoon costume that he would continue to milk with the best of us for decades.

I didn’t wind up being involved with G’n’R’s album. No surprise there. The surprise came a few months later when Slash called me and wanted to follow up on my offer to help him get some free guitars.
‘You want me to help you get guitars after you went around saying all that shit about me behind my back?’
Slash got real quiet.
‘You know, one thing you’re going to have to learn is not to air your dirty laundry in public. Nice knowing you. Go fuck yourself.’” Pg 308-310

...well then