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A lot of negative commentary about TSI is that it was "lazy" 

what does that even mean?

6 hours ago, allwaystired said:

Canned Spaghetti on toast is pretty good.

I've always found the cover makes me slightly hungry. 

 

 

does this make you hungry 

would they really release 21 songs w/ alt mixing

could we really get it

i don’t want to get hurt 

1 minute ago, lame ass security said:

"Completely awful" is a bit harsh, imo. It's a little hit or miss but totally acceptable for a live show. I know from personal experience that song is a bitch to sing.

Everybody!!! I'm a cowboy.... ♬.... 

33 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

I see he who must not be named is still stalking this forum. Was curious to see what this would sound like

Damn I didn't realize... haha, that clip I posted had been up for like 4 years.

You can do it yourself in Audacity... some songs sound really cool (Nightrain especially). It's really fascinating how much of a shift in mood a key change can provide. 

Whenever I see that youtube takedown pic on this forum I just picture: 

Hard at work! /salute . They might have let you drink their piss after a show in the 80's, if they knew what an ally you would become. 

44 minutes ago, lame ass security said:

He was diagnosed with cardiomyopathy in 2001, I think, and had a difibrallator implanted. It was quite serious, the doctors gave him between six days to six weeks to live. I don't know how the doctors really determined that, maybe someone who read his book can give more information. 

His pacemaker went off about 4 times a song when he played w/ Michael Jackson in 2001, apparently! It wasn't calibrated right -- pretty nuts. You'd never know 'cause he was business as usual playing.

I like how he had to play Black or White at that show; I remember reading in an interview he thought the main riff to that song was "gay,"  and that he only did the pre-song guitar jam....

Fast forward he's rockin this "gay" riff live w/ a fishnet shirt on. 

Anyhow... haha

Canned spaghetti has an appeal of its own; you should view it as a totally different food than regular. I haven’t had it in like two decades, but it’s good... in a very specific way. And it’s also trash.

This is like the sleeper thread right now. Very innocuous title, yet the harbinger of hopefully great things to come!  

7 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

ALG was good musically but Rod Jackson never did it for me on most of the songs.. He sounds good on some though.

I used to think he sounded cheesy... but now I don't.... at all, haha. Not sure what changed. All the songs have grown on me.

I'll take some overwrought soulful belting over middling sunset strip cliches, if we have to choose . 

If you wanna get Slash to stop noodling we need someone to turn to him and start belting it out into his face like Rod, haha. Then Slash will do the crouch and start foot stomping... you know what I'm talkin about!

8 hours ago, Gracii Guns said:

The Spaghetti Incident is a fine album. 

Not amazing, not progressive. Not what GN'R could have achieved at the time. But still a fun listen. 

Yeah it’s got this weird reputation, don’t you think?

The critical reception wasn’t even that poor, Rolling Stone liked it, ALLMUSIC gives it 2/5 and then the actual text of the review is basically all praise.... negativity was mostly around Look At Your Game Girl, SIDHY is kind of unconventional and the fact that it didn’t sell like gangbusters... but why would it have? It was kinda just more UYI, which by that point, pop culture wise, was pretty exhausted. 

I feel like people just kinda say it sucks because that’s what some people decided, haha. I had it in my head it wasn’t good but then you actually listen to it with no expectations... it *sounds* f’n awesome.... Black Leather, Attitude, Ain’t It Fun, Hair of the Dog... Human Being is really an Axl highlight.... and Down On the Farm is f’n fun.

In an alternate timeline these were going to be integral parts of UYI.

Runnin' Down a Dream into aggressive beginner Guitar Center riff.

Prolly not the basis for a song. 

4 hours ago, ToonGuns said:

One of my favourite all time gigs (possibly my favourite) was Snakepit at Sheffield Corporation, UK in 2000. Tiny crowd. Sweaty venue. Pure rock n roll. Fan-fucking-tastic.

That kind of anecdote is why I don't think Slash really cares about money past a certain point... I bet he was having a blast. It's why I don't think his tenure in GNR is guaranteed if nothing new happens. People always talk about that divorce... what does Slash spend money on?? Dinosaur toys and pinball machines? He lives out of a suitcase and gets everything for free. 

48 minutes ago, Homefuck said:

Totally agree. Ain't Life Grand is easily the best album Slash has been a part of since use your illusion IMO. Huge improvement from the first snakepit album (maybe because the whole lineup, sans Slash, was exchanged) . 

Ain't Life Grand rocks.

Why does it sound so different than everything else he's done?

I want to say it sounds "blacker" but I don't even know what that means. But doesn't it? And I don't just mean Rod Jackson... or maybe I do... does Slash really just adapt to his vocalist that strongly? I don't think so... he seems to come up with his ideas in isolation. 

But something like Shine... or Mean Bone, Just Like Anything...The Truth.... like, they just have this... not R&B, but... some kinda vibe... does anyone know what I'm talking about??

Somehow it musically seems to indulge Slash's cheeseball instincts the least -- even on a cheesy ass song like Speed Parade  

damnit Susan 

Any of the cutting room floor stuff from TSI would be cool for this set, too! Not sure if anyone mentioned it. 

(since a lot of them were destined for UYI originally; I doubt it'll ever get a second look on its own)

Also basically, more Izzy. Izzy TSI tracks? Bring up Izzy levels on every song.... yeah  

Do the 5.1 thing again -- that was brilliant. 

Some kind of dry mix, alt mix.... remix thing. Not just a more compressed remaster. Remaster them true to the original sound but then do a seperate disc without the sheen and all those effects... just bare-bones it. That will really open those albums up for a fresh look from more than just hardcore fans.

A lot of the original mastering / mixing choices really neutered the more rocking songs and the turning down of Izzy diminished the interplay that makes AFD so classic (even though it's there!). You can say it's a quintessential part of what the albums are / were... but they just sound dated to that early 90's era in a way that diminishes the work and it's a common refrain among critics and fans. 

Given what other Super Deluxe stuff for other big artists has been done in the last 5 years, it's gotta be possible. 

11 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Apparently the information that the Hanoi Rocks song that was recorded for TSI was "A Beer And A Cigarette" came from a Michael Monroe quote posted in the Q&A section at htgth:

I haven't found the original source of the quote yet.

I can’t really trust you as a source given your fanatical Michael Jackson takes. 

Is it common knowledge that GNR recorded Hanoi Rocks’ "A Beer and a Cigarette” and the Stooges' “Down on the Street” for the Spaghetti Incident but they were never released?

I had no idea!

I wonder if that’s the kinda thing they could squeeze into the UYI box. Everyone is always talking about Ain’t Goin Down... f that... those two tracks sound way more interesting.

We're so starved for material as GNR fans, we've decided to re-litigate the Michael Jackson trials.

Prosecution, you may call your first witness.

3 minutes ago, koldbeer2 said:

Problem is it brings even more of the song into his weak mid range where he struggles.

Low stuff is easy, high stuff has deteriorated big time recently but on things like soyl he can still get it out. But songs like Scom, ycbm that require strong mid voice he just struggling with and has done for some time and he can't do it any way other than the weak higher pitched head voice that sounds like the Mickey voice we know.

 

Okay fine so low is easy? HOW LOW CAN WE GO, BABY --- C-tuning!

Sludge N' Roses! 

I just wanna hear them try D tuning.

Listen to Nightrain in D it's fuckin' cool.... little more menacing.... little more world weary -- it suits an Axl that kinda stalks around instead of sprints around...  

I think it's worth stating Axl might have underlying health issues that impact his ability to "go for it."

Doesn't mean he doesn't sound pretty terrible post-2016, I can't even listen to this recent release, but I think it's a step too far to say he doesn't care. Duff said he does hours of pre-show vocal work, for example. 

It also doesn't mean they shouldn't have a good hard look at mixing things up to make them more compatible with 2020 Axl. But we shouldn't assume the worst of his work ethic. Remember that whole cane thing... and I mean who knows what meds he's on... 

IF he's totally healthy.... then get it the fuck together, my man! You're Axl Rose!

Iggy at 58:

13 minutes ago, Nice Boy said:

Yikes, that's a weird mindset for Slash to have - to be giving the benefit of the doubt to MJ due to being friends with him, but keeping his son away from him just in case. I get that's it's hard to digest terrible accusations against someone you know, though. 

With London it would have been in the early 2000’s when that second wave of accusations came... Michael dancing on cars at the courthouse and all that jazz....

Chris Rock : We love Michael so much, we let the first kid slide. I'm fuckin done! What the fuck? Another kid? Another... That's like another dead white woman showing up at O.J.'s house, and O.J. going "I know what you're thinking..." Michael Jackson going to jail. Oh, it's going to be a sad sight when Michael Jackson's going to jail. Oh, we going to shed a tear when Michael Jackson going to jail. We're not going to be sad the day he goes in. We're gonna be sad a month later. When that perm grows out... shits all nappy and gray. His face is all fucked up because it dont got the Crayola people to fix his face nowhere. That's a fuckin sad ass sight.

12 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

What in the shite are you on about. You're talking utter gibberish, have you been drinking 😄

Not sure how you assessed I haven't been listening to music for the last 20yrs... completely wrong. The problem here is that I know good from bad, you on the other hand are a great example of a fan that cannot say if something is bad. Enjoy being a complete fool, you're excelling at it.

Yeah in funk the bass is supposed to be loud, duh! Last I checked gnr were a rock band... and the bass in rock is not supposed to overpower the guitar and be the loudest thing in the mix. You're the expert though, would love to hear your stellar mixes🤣

Finally, I never said Rock am ring was a good mix, but it was far more enjoyable than this and more balanced with the exception of a bumble solo here and there that was muted unintentionally.

Now buggar off, please and thanks! 

the mixing team and fernando were just looking at their west coast g funk spotify playlists for inspo 

Props for the release. Super flat, though. Bummer. Not sure if it's performance energy or the mix... not sure how you can watch something like this more than once. 

No chemistry, no energy, crowd is snoozing.... watching this just stresses me out -- nobody is having fun! 

Back to the 90's we gooooo *whoosh*