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3 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

Duff really does come off as "spineless" in this book...

I wanna live in the timeline where Slash got buzzed in and the reunion happened in 2006. 

21 hours ago, feli1269 said:

This INXS restoration is fuckin awesome. The video shows the original release vs restoration. Amazing work

Just imagine GNR footage in this quality...

 

That's... really f'n cool.

Fuck man how is the original Tokyo '92 still the best quality concert for this band... it comparatively sounds and looks like absolute trash at this point. 

WHAT ARE WE DOING PEOPLE

AHHHH

1 hour ago, The Holographic Universe said:

The book sounds disappointing. I was expecting a well written book with insights on recording sessions and touring with GNR and VR. Not Stephanie Seymour rubbed my balls. That sets the tone for me. Axl “mean eyes” and “mean aura”. Lol.

He said Axl had a mean aura?

justice for marc

make it right, Axl

6 hours ago, KeyserSoze said:

Its not just fan interest, its the whole representation of a band as a whole. You promise us something and set it up like a TV show thats going to get multiple episodes? Ok, we will treat it as such. I feel like you think people really loved those videos and need more... i liked some parts of the videos, but I can tell you this: if theres no new video by the end of the Week, for me its like everything they did was for nothing. How can you start hype and let it die down?

its the principal of the thing..

Yeah no we're on the same page. 

What I mean is, given the poor track record of GNR with fan relations and media releases, I'm just surprised the forum still floods with people when new stuff manages to trickle out. Surprised they haven't exhausted the good will of more casual fans.

15 minutes ago, lame ass security said:

I assume she's second from the bottom.

kinda looks like Pitman

CD2 starts now  

Even speaking as someone who frequents a GNR forum, I'm blown away by the amount of sustained fan interest in this kind of thing. 

7 minutes ago, lame ass security said:

I bet Guns smelled pretty bad back in the day.😄 Didn't a couple guys in Motley Crue have a bet that the last guy to shower on tour won? I think they went like a month or something.

Haha. Probably. Although... there's a heck of a lot of photos of Slash with his towel hair setup:

Anyway, not to derail this important conversation  . 

Someone just needs to take a pressure washer to DJ. 

If you could just blast away the Ashba water, the swag, the glitter guitars and hair dye and all the perfectly positioned bangs and accessories, factory ripped and patched clothing... just get some levis and a sunburst and bare your soul, baby. 

Well, do what you want.... but the fucking Hollywood Vampires, Sixx AM aesthetic... where the fuck did it come from... it's like a post-apocalyptic sunset strip crypt keeper vibe. So many fucking layers of shitty clothing paired with mascara. They all look like they just smell f'n rank.

Rock needs a savior. 

Pitman was like Giga-Dizzy... his final form

you defeat Dizzy in battle and then he comes back as Pitman... now he has *four* keyboards hanging all over the fuckin place, a leather vest becomes the full haight ashbury leather daddy ensemble, bongos give way to fifty layers of sub bass for all the canines in the audience 

1 minute ago, Rovim said:

 

* I feel like Slash still carries the show even if he does overplay some of the time. I remember his solo spot from not too long ago where there was an official live feed or something and it was outstanding, so he still got it imo. Maybe just lost inspiration from lack of new shit to play.

Yeah that blues solo spot that surfaced in the fall I think? That was amazing.

I feel like maybe he was crying about the band dynamic through song. I almost teared up. 

10 minutes ago, GNR_RNR said:

 

KOHD is great in it's current form and represents a highlight of the set. No amount of forum cynicism changes that.

 

 

I'm glad you're here to dispense the objective GNR truths!

1 hour ago, Gunsdrummer63 said:

I don't like him because his drums (sound wise) and fills don't mix. I actually would prefer Brain or Brent Fitz if it couldn't be Adler or Sorum. And I know I won't see Adler full time or Sorum full time so that doesn't really apply to me. I'm a drummer myself and I don't like Frank due to his drumming style in the band. His snare doesn't fit, he over uses the china cymbal, and his cymbal sounds just don't work in most songs. As mentioned before, he doesn't play the November Rain tom fill correct and that pisses me off most. 

 

Many people would argue the only people that matter are Axl and Slash. People didn't show up just to see Duff when he was back in 2014. Slash and axl being back draws the crowd. People don't even know who 4tus is, they think he's izzy. 4tus also joined the band in 2002, not 2006. They did do something about it, Frank was taking drum lessons after the last leg of the Tour. 

I don't care who the drummer is as long as he fits. Frank is a decent drummer, but he doesn't have the groove or power. Brain and Brent are a perfect combo of this. 

I agree! 

I don't care who the drummer is at this point (except for a special AFD fueled love for Adler), I just care about the sound... Like Sorum, especially if he was playing like he did on the UYI tour, I could take or leave him. But his playing really evolved through VR and his GNR approach just sounds good. It is heavy handed... but in a satisfying sounding way. He's not coming back so it's a non-starter but... just for comparison sake.  For some reason Frank sounds tiring (??) to listen to, heavy like Sorum but not tight (but not... groovy either) -- I'm a guitarist, not a drummer -- I can't really put my finger on it. Meanwhile Fitz and Adler have this propulsive, poppy, bouncing in your seat thing -- it just colors the f out of the songs in the best way, to me. 

I was watching the Nightrain 2016 in Florida and wasn't vibing the drums and thought maybe I was just too in my head, then I scrolled down and saw a comment "whats wrong with the drummer?" So... I dunno. . Just further proof that the idea of drummers as being these faceless, plug and play devices (especially for big band reunions where they always seem to get the least respect), is way off. 

(and I say that with all due respect to Frank! it's a style thing). 

11 hours ago, Ralphelmo said:

Slash is having much more fun playing with SMKC, that's true. I think many people haven't really noticed the 2019 SMKC DVD release, I love the way audio was captured, it feels like you are there while watching. The combination of Fitz, Kerns and Sidoris simply blows away actual GNR in AppetiteFD repertoire.

 

And acoustic 'Civil War' from 2012, just close your eyes and listen to the band. Atmosphere they create is exactly what about this song is. Click -> Civil War 2012

Wow that's sick I never saw that. 

Frank really seems to be channeling the original Izzy recording even more than he did in earlier tours -- even has a Tele! That's the contrast you want. 

2 minutes ago, Powderfinger said:

Nah, his tone and playing back then were different to how he plays and sounds now. 

How about NITL vs recent Conspirators? Do you find his tone differs there, too?

41 minutes ago, GNR_RNR said:

A band doesn't owe fans proshots. Sure they are nice (and I'm glad they've started releasing them) but the majority don't just chuck them out for free.

Imagine complaining to 2014 fans that Slash and Duff were back and playing 'Coma'+'Locomotive'. You'd be laughed out.

Just read this thread, the entitlement is obvious.

Bands aren't entitled to slavish praise just like fans aren't "entitled" to content. 

None of this is necessary and nobody is entitled to shit.

But how come Slash can pull this off?

But GUNS N' F'N ROSES can't.

5 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said:

Take your rose covered glasses off imo Matt sounds very lethargic here.  Its sounds messy  and its all over the place given they were all drunk out of their minds and on the last show of the tour

That sounded like a lumbering snarling beast putting Argentina up against a wall. In the best way.

5 minutes ago, guitarpatch said:

Do you know how much it costs and the time it takes for a professional mix? You realize they won’t be making relatively anything off of it? 
 

I don't have any idea! haha... but it's not like this is the reunion of Jet.

GNR is a bigger touring enterprise than Metallica, yet Metallica has seemingly dozens of great sounding full shows online. Anyway, they can invest what they want in their band... s'all good. 

I don't think the issue is Slash's tone so much as the mix. There's no bass? The drums have no life to them. 

the f.

Cut to a static camera behind the audience.... baaaaaaah

I like the approach. It's not like he's Eddie Trunk... and I mean that in a good way. 

No use trying to nail Frank's ass to the wall (or any of the guests) or put him in a position that he obviously can't speak to -- regardless of your opinion of him in the band.

Asking him about Steven is just kinda offside, imo. If Slash / Axl / Duff skirt the issue, why are we gonna press Frank? We shouldn't view him as a means to an end... that's why I wanna know his fav song to play and how his dynamic with Slash and Duff worked.... the tempo.... LET'S GET TO KNOW HIM! And maybe him knowing the fanbase is really clued in to the rhythm dynamics will have some impact in future shows, who knows, or the new material or whatever!

8 hours ago, Axlr0s37 said:

 I'm in the minority that loves Live Era. 

Rocket queen is amazing, I like that gilbys guitar is missing makes slash's stand out and you can play the rhythm along with it (although very badly). Some great rough versions of tracks on there. 

Before the world of YouTube it was the only live example I had of GNR apart from my mums vhs of the freddie tribute concert. Could pretend to be axl with my makeshift axl style mic. 

 

Did you get the AFD 5.1 channel mixes for guitar practice? Track those down!

You get the slash track isolated and the izzy track -- very fun!