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2 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

That’s because they are the same. They don’t necessarily have to credit every one or every second. 

They would if it was him playing it. 

3 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

The composition credits for Absurd and Hard Skool were just "Guns N' Roses" as well in the streaming services' liner notes. The "real" credits (meaning who gets composition royalties) appeared on ASCAP a while later. I suppose the same will happen with Perhaps.

Oh okay so another person could get a composer credit as well then. The fact that Slash and Duff are credited on all of the recent releases though seems like they must have a new agreement going forward. 

18 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

I think that might be true, if it's just 2 seconds of guitar I don't think you have to credit the player?

I think they’d still get credited as a studio musician, but not sure. 
 

Perhaps must’ve been solely credited to Axl before as the composer is now just listed as Guns N Roses (Axl,Slash,Duff). Absurd for example is credited to Axl, Dizzy, Slash and Duff as Dizzy must’ve been an original co-writer. Which is interesting because it shows us that the deal between Axl, Slash and Duff regarding releasing new music is now back to the pre UYI days where the band as an entity was credited as the composer. At least I think that’s the case.

6 minutes ago, Bitchisback said:

I'm in Pennsylvania.  That is just a rip of the song someone took from last night.  Not a demo.

 

And lots of songs go to radio before streaming services. That's not uncommon 

The one that I saw was definitely the demo, not the radio rip. It’s been taken down now though. 
 

5 minutes ago, BassistSeb said:

If you take it literally they’re not technically lying though but yeah agree it’s odd that they’re wording it so it’s like it is a new writing collaboration when it’s openly known that it’s from the NuGuns era. 

Well weren’t we under the impression Duff/Slash added their parts to these CD era songs a few years ago, not this year? Seems like they’re trying to pull a fast one for some reason with their description of this song. Maybe someone did some focus testing of general audiences and they realized nobody is interested in repurposed Axl songs from 20 years ago…just a thought..

11 minutes ago, BassistSeb said:

I do find the press release that implied it was written by Axl, Slash and Duff pretty weird given that it dates from the NuGuns era. I suppose if Axl came up with the structure, lyrics and vocal melody then it isn’t incorrect as that’s classed as writing and then Slash and Duff did the recording two decades afterwards…

Yeah, but that’s not getting in a room this year and writing it together. Wonder why they’re lying like that in the promo material they’re giving radio stations…

7 minutes ago, Blakemajors1 said:

So it isn’t robin’s solo if he isn’t credited right? Shouldn’t they all be listed out if that was the case?

He’s not playing it on the official release apparently. Regarding that they list the composer as Guns N Roses. Is that something new? Seems like it could be some deal between Axl, Slash and Duff to share on the publishing for all new material released. Anybody know more on that?

19 minutes ago, AxlRQ93 said:

So guessing Spotify USA tomorrow?

Yeah it appears their idea of great promotion (and probably why it was delayed a week) was to give Audacy rock stations in the USA the song exclusively to play one day before it officially came out. It also seems based on Audacy’s description of the song that they may be trying to mislead people that this is a new song that Axl/Slash/Duff wrote together…

https://www.audacy.com/national/music/world-premiere-guns-n-roses-perhaps

According to an official release, "Perhaps" was "written and recorded by Axl Rose, Slash, and Duff McKagan this year," and is their "first collective new composition and recording together in thirty years since 1993’s 'The Spaghetti Incident?'"

Check out the band's brand new single "Perhaps" all day Thursday, August 17, beginning at 12AM ET on your favorite Audacy Rock stations.

5 minutes ago, Bitchisback said:

??

 

 

Even if the demo is the first result Guns n Roses doesn't control Google.  It's just an algorithm 

I’m in California so even though the song has been premiered on radio in the States you can’t listen to it on YouTube,Spotify,etc yet. So the only thing that is available to pop up on google at the moment is the demo someone uploaded to YouTube. It’s also been up for over 4 hours. Seems like that should be deleted and/or they should’ve just made the actual song available after it premiered on radio. 

4 minutes ago, dave94 said:

It’s on Spotify, but for me it seems to know I’m connected to a VPN so is blocking access, but looks like it will probably be available “tonight” whatever location you’re in

I listened to the YouTube version because I couldn’t wait 

People were mentioning earlier that along with using the VPN you need to log out of your Spotify account as that’s telling the platform where you’re actually from. 

27 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

I get it (I didn't at first), it's the sports fan mentality. They want their "team" (band) to win, to be champions again, to make them proud so they can brag to their friends/fans of other "teams".

But music should not be about this. All that should matter is whether someone enjoys it or not. I may follow the charts or ticket sales for "educational purposes", but I really don't care about this stuff.

I think it can be about both. Plus the more success you have, the more likely you’ll be convinced to release more so it works out. 

When I search Guns N Roses Perhaps on google the first result is the demo on YouTube. 🤦🏻‍♂️Fucking idiots for letting that happen. 

3 minutes ago, Appetitefordiscussion said:

Is there anyway to hear this still? Or was it just played once 

They’ll probably play the song once an hour on that station if you’re willing to wait. 

19 minutes ago, DannyVinyard said:

IDK. I just know his work in GNR is fantastic. 

Yeah, I like most of his work in GNR as well, but I think people get a little carried away about his skills around here. CD is by far the most he has ever recorded for an album. Curious why he hasn’t been on more stuff as he left GNR over 15 years ago and wasn’t on hardly anything before. 

12 minutes ago, DannyVinyard said:

What sucks is that if and when the General comes out, we'll get the busted Slash version and may never get to hear the epic Robin version. 

How many songs has Robin played on in the studio for NIN? 

15 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

Yeah I quite like what he did with it.  To me it is funny, people complain about Slash playing too fast live, but when he slows down the playing and does more long sustained melodic lines they complain too lol

 

To me the solo is fine and it fits for sure.  And I like the added production element of the double tracking

Yeah I really liked the guitar sustain (or whatever you call it) at the end leading into the piano coming back. That was cool. 

9 minutes ago, NelvinHigby said:

pretty insane that they did not promote this whatsoever, especially with the fact they recorded an intro? Perhaps that was special for the diehards?

Their voices in the intro are probably from 20-30 years ago. 

1 minute ago, Amir said:

Was asleep but had a weird dream which woke me up just a few minutes before the song played. Listened via VPN so sound quality wasn't the best. Is the solo different from the TouchTunes leak, or is it just mixed better? Definitely sounds better.

I think we’re just hearing a better mix. It’s a different choice (not obvious) but I like it for the song.

1 hour ago, Subtle Signs said:

We're coming for ya Jelly Roll!! 

Ha, Slash is already sitting at #4

4 minutes ago, klakly said:

If it is true that the single will be on the radio tomorrow, do you think it will be available immediately for purchase/streaming on the various platforms or will they announce that it will be available from Friday?

If they’re starting to play it in the USA tomorrow at 10AM EST, then maybe it will already be streaming in places like New Zealand at that point.

5 minutes ago, DarkLotus1111 said:

Lol people actually believe "The General" is next... there's no proof. At least "Perhaps" and "Atlas Snuggled" seem realistic since they leaked, but "The General" hasn't even been leaked.   

The video where you may or may not see The General as a set list option seems to be what people are hanging their hat on. 

7 minutes ago, The Real McCoy said:

 If ALL of this was intentional (including a fake release date and the “accidental” jukebox link) just to be red herrings before a surprise drop to radio, then it was fucking masterful to whoever suggested it. 

It wasn’t, but why would that be masterful? 

27 minutes ago, The Real McCoy said:

Apparently this is true - I just messaged one of my friends that works the rock format, and he confirmed that it IS dropping tomorrow and they’re playing it once an hour after 10 AM

I mean hopefully that it true, but why the hell did they delay it 6 days then? Corresponding video? Stupidity?

7 hours ago, IzzysMissy said:

Fair. The promoter provided thousands upon thousands of free tickets agencies, radio stations and orgs because sales were stupid low and the stadium would have been empty. People, when receiving free tix, only redeem them maybe 20/25% of the time. GNR fans can delude themselves however they want but in the US at least, gnr is playing to empty stadiums. 

Good. They don’t deserve anything more at this point.