GnR Chris

Anyone know the median time he's gone on stage?

I wanna get a good buzz going before the show but I don't want to show too early and lose it.

Sweet! I take the blue line home from work. It's right on the way. Perfect time too!

And? Exactly. AND?!

You're the one who stated the years he's been in Guns N' Roses. But he doesn't mean shit to the Gn'R legacy.

I like Guns N' Roses, the current band and the real group. I like Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Adler's work in and out of the band. (Edit: Not to mention solo stuff from current members, like Tommy Stinson).

If Axl wanted the current group to forge its own legacy, as he said, then perhaps he'd play a song that the current group wrote together. Until then how can we consider them anything but a nice little touring lineup for Axl?

Have to laugh at all the whining cunts in this thread. Say what you want but I can guarantee he's accomplished more in his life and done more cool shit than any of the useless, bitter little turds that are bitching about him

Accomplished a lot and done more cool shit, yes, no doubt. He's a member of GNR, and a millionaire. He should be eternally grateful for that, since he in no way helped create the band, write the songs that made them famous, or, to this point, done ANYTHING of any real significance to dignify his being in the band. And when he makes negative comments regarding the original members, intentionally or not (remember, Dizzy is a moron) it's like, he really thinks he deserves to be there? He needs to just play his bongos and his keyboard parts, and shut the fuck up.

cosigning this.

Dizzy is GN'R

Deal with it.

No one thinks of Dizzy when they think of Guns N' Roses.

People say, "You mean Izzy?"

u really know what everybody thinks yeah?

Izzy was 6 or 7 years in the band.

Dizzy 20 years. You really think that's true?

It was somewhat of a joke, but has truth to it. Years don't matter. Dizzy is a hired hand. Izzy was part of the Gn'R partnership. He was the architect to many of their biggest hits. In those seven years, Izzy Stradlin did more for Guns and rock and roll than Dizzy did in his 20 and will do in an entire lifetime.

Have to laugh at all the whining cunts in this thread. Say what you want but I can guarantee he's accomplished more in his life and done more cool shit than any of the useless, bitter little turds that are bitching about him

Accomplished a lot and done more cool shit, yes, no doubt. He's a member of GNR, and a millionaire. He should be eternally grateful for that, since he in no way helped create the band, write the songs that made them famous, or, to this point, done ANYTHING of any real significance to dignify his being in the band. And when he makes negative comments regarding the original members, intentionally or not (remember, Dizzy is a moron) it's like, he really thinks he deserves to be there? He needs to just play his bongos and his keyboard parts, and shut the fuck up.

cosigning this.

Dizzy is GN'R

Deal with it.

No one thinks of Dizzy when they think of Guns N' Roses.

People say, "You mean Izzy?"

This is a little off topic, but does anyone know where I can download the November Rain acoustic demo? Definitely my favorite GNR acoustic song, but hard to find...

Yes, I have it. PM.

The classic lineup only has 2 albums worth of worthy songs.

the new band has none.

*SNAP*crackle*pop*

Go listen to lies

I do. Every day. Haha

The classic lineup only has 2 albums worth of worthy songs.

Lol

I think he meant they made only 2 albums worth of songs worth listening to. And I agree.

I know it's a matter of opinion, but I'm sick of people saying shit like this because there were a few (horrendous) stinkers on Illusions. Some people say it should have been condensed into one record, but which songs would you leavr out? Due to length of some, you'd fit maybe 12-14 on one record.

I'll go down the list on songs I wouldn't leave out:

Right next Door to Hell

Dust N' Bones

Don't Cry

Perfect Crime

You Ain't the First

Bad Obsession

Back Off Bitch

Double Talkin' Jive

November Rain

The Garden

Garden of Eden

Don't Damn Me

Dead Horse

Coma

Civil War

14 Years

Yesterdays

Get in the Ring

Breakdown

Pretty Tied Up

Locomotive

So Fine

Estranged

You Could Be Mine

I like Knockin and Live and Let Die, but for the sake of argument, I left covers off the record. Had Gn'R waited on some of these songs to release them on a future record, we never would have gotten them.

Anyway ...

Just something I was thinking about, and I'm asking for shits and giggles since it'll never happen.

I think it would be cool to get scaled down simple versions of songs with just Axl on piano playing:

Sweet Child O' Mine

November Rain

Catcher in the Rye

Street of Dreams

Don't Cry

Madagascar

Patience

Civil War

Breakdown

Maybe even a little Dust in the Wind (Todd Rundgren) and a studio version of It's Alright.

And of course some cool shit that you maybe wouldn't think would work at first without the classic guitar riffs, like Estranged.

This thread is a fail.

Great interview. I've always wondered how he felt when Chris joined the band.

Why? Who cares? I'm sure he didn't feel worse than the classic lineup when he was brought in for no discernible reason.

What a surprise!

This so called journalist here is just another OLD GUY from the '80s complaining about Slash not being in the band anymore.

Why was this stupid fawk talking about REUNION?

This idiot doesn't get it. A re-union tour would kill the legacy of GnR. The classic lineup only has 2 albums worth of worthy songs.

GnR needs to continue making NEW and INNOVATED music to increase its catalog, if GnR wants to leave behind a legacy that rivals other great bands in history.

The real Guns N' Roses has already left a permanent footprint in rock and roll history. Those "two albums worth of worthy songs" are actually 50 deep plus the covers record they did and unreleased shit like "Crash Diet" and "Shadow of Your Love" that I wish was done proper.

Anyway, no matter how many album's Axl's Guns comes out with, it will always be viewed separately. Like Van Halen and Van Hagar.

I love the analogy someone else used here, so I'll repeat it: Dizzy Reed was born standing on third base but he thinks he hit a triple.

I think he sounds like a little twat in that interview, particularly:

"From what I remember - and trust me, it was a long time ago and many, many vodkas and beers ago - a lot of people had a hard time accepting I was in the band. They were gigantic when I joined. Some people thought I was just going to be a passing thing. Whether or not the other guys at the time were into it, I don't know. But now they're gone, and I'm still here."

Go fuck yourself, Dizzy. Most worthless member of Guns N' Roses ever.

He's as peripheral as they come.

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the song from the remastered Lies album? It was reportedly included as a bonus.

Please don't tell me to rip it off youtube either. I want the best possible quality.

but compared to Loaded or BLS, this is fuckin garbage, no way im watching this band. Another shitty opener for GNR, almost as bad as Bullet for my Valentine or whaterver the fuck band i seen in 06 at Hammerstein.

I'm disappointed, though I knew it wouldn't be anyone I heard of considering we're less than a week away now and no one's been announced.

Buckcherry sucks too.

But I woulda loved Black Label Society, Sebastian or Loaded.

Apologies if it's already been posted.

http://www.groupon.com/deals/gl-guns-roses-aeg-live?c=all&p=3

Edit: Kind of annoying considering I paid over $90 a ticket and here are other 200-level seats for $20. Oh, well.

Almost every band I've seen has played between 80 to 90 minutes. That runs the gamut from (a few off the top of my head) Bon Jovi, Poison, Death Cab, Motley Crue, Aerosmith, Def Leppard, Scorpions and many more.

People complain about the high ticket prices (and I did too), but you know what? I paid $100 to see U2 in 2005 and they only played for probably around 90 minutes. Even at the $50 I paid to see Bon Jovi, they played 90 minutes. That's around half as long as Gn'R for half the price.

You must've been unlucky. U2, and Bon Jovi all play well over 2 hours every show, with Bon Jovi topping them playing well over 2,5 hours on their last European tour. And that's without 15 guitar/drum/piano/banjo/bongo solo's. Whether you like Bon Jovi or not is out of the question here, they do deliver, as do U2. As for other acts that play close to 3 hours on a tour...McCartney, Rush, Dream Theater, Pearl Jam...

I'm not sure if it's changed over here but I'd rather get a 2 hour show without the solo's than a 3 hour show without any flow whatsoever, no matter how good the quality of the solo's is. I see a show for the songs, I'm not there to see a guy prove what technical skills he has.

Perhaps unlucky, but I've seen Bon Jovi twice and both times they only played around 90 minutes. Now U2 did play Soldier Field (outdoors where the Chicago Bears play) and I believe that was a longer set. Same with Bon Jovi.

I just have to voice the obvious yet not said opinion here;

3 hour rock shows just don't work.

Even though you might make yourself believe they do. the fact of the matter is that it really doesn't matter if you are pub band out on your first 10 shows or you are GNR, everything after the first 35 minutes, which in and of themselves should be great through and through, begs for an actual justification.

It requires a truely masterful showmanship and great songs to carry a show to an old albums length of 45 minutes. Very rarely have I seen shows that have been really good through and through that have lasted longer than that. 60 minutes is an absolute maximum from one troupe for me, usually. Maybe with my utmost favorites I can stomach a 90 minute thing, but that is really stretching it.

3 hours. it just screams "no!!!!" to me.

I really don't know how you can say this. To each his own, I suppose. At just 60 minutes I would feel like I didn't get my money's worth.

Honestly, some bands I go see, if I'm standing (because I'm starting to be an old bastard), I think the 90-minute mark is a good one. But with huge bands where I love so much of the catalog of songs, it's never enough. I'm a greedy, hungry pig.

With huge acts, there are always songs left off that you wish they would have played. But if they're pulling three hour shows, you really have little room to complain no matter what they didn't play because they squeeze so much in. And while some people think the solos and whatnot are buzzkillers, I happen to love them at rock shows if they are paced well.

From the live clips I watched, I like seeing the Pink Floyd stuff prior to November Rain and piano solos and whatnot. DJ (not a huge fan) had a killer solo at Rio.

I can't fucking wait till the Dexter theme starts to play at the Allstate in less than two weeks. I'm gonna get shitty at Shoeless Joe's pre-party and ride that fuckin' buzz all night long.

How many big rock acts today do near-three hour performances? I'm just curious.

I know my bro saw Tom Petty a few years back and he played for over two hours, but when I saw Petty he played for about an hour and 20 minutes, which has been standard for me.

Almost every band I've seen has played between 80 to 90 minutes. That runs the gamut from (a few off the top of my head) Bon Jovi, Poison, Death Cab, Motley Crue, Aerosmith, Def Leppard, Scorpions and many more.

People complain about the high ticket prices (and I did too), but you know what? I paid $100 to see U2 in 2005 and they only played for probably around 90 minutes. Even at the $50 I paid to see Bon Jovi, they played 90 minutes. That's around half as long as Gn'R for half the price.

I guess long story short I am really fucking pumped I'm going to see Axl and really fucking pumped I get to see a huge set. Much respect for the two and a half hour shows he's been playing. The last of a dying breed?

LOL, so a praise is "fanboyism" and not "objective" enough?

Im sorry, but too many here are trying to act very much like the non-hardcore fans: its not cool to be supportive or fully satified with something regarding the new band. Its like there is a need to have always anything against them.

IMHO, a review isnt supposed to be objective, thats totally impossible anyways. And being too cynical regarding anything that others could consider flawless is nothing but a bitter way to deal with your own taste.

The funny thing is that the review was actually a breath of fresh air after so many "the music is good, but.." kind of comment. And here we are again.

It isn't praise that's fanboyism. It's the way it was written. If earlier reviews had an anti-New Guns slant, then this one clearly (CLEARLY) tries too hard to argue in favor of Axl.

As I said, I loved Chinese Democracy. I consider it a fucking rock masterpiece. But that review was eye-rolling. It appears to have been written by some post-grad who thinks he's hot shit 'cause he knows words (to paraphrase a terrible movie).

He speaks of Axl as if he knows him, to the point of defense.

He says he can't forgive those who judge the record based on what they think it should be, but what if those people think it should be a Guns N' Roses record? It's clearly an Axl Rose record because he's the dictator in that "band." Everyone else is a revolving door of talent. It's Axl's own fault how people perceived Chinese Democracy. Gn'R is his own solo project. I think had Axl released the record under his own name, a lot more people would have been accepting of the material. He did himself a disservice.

But anyway, back to the music ...

I remember reading a review by Chuck Klosterman when CD first released, and found it to be a very good one and far more in the middle.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/chuck-klosterman-reviews-chinese-democracy,2539/

My favorite review of Chinese Democracy was Chuck Klosterman's.

By the way, I just saw GNR in Atlanta and couldn't be more thrilled. I hope it's a sign of good things to come.

Ha! Didn't see you also linked the same review before me.

I bought the $80 hoodie at the ATL show. I can post a pic if anyone wants to see it. I also bought a short sleeved North American Tour Tee and a Beanie for my nephews. I will post pics of those, too. They were $40 and $30, respectively. My daughter was amazed that I paid that much for a hoodie but, it's not just a hoodie, it's a Guns N' Roses hoodie! Can't be a cheapskate there!! Lol.

I thought $80 was pretty good, actually. I was prepared to pay $100 for a hoodie. I'm addicted to them. I can get a tee anytime.

I bought a Guns N' Roses hoodie for $25 online.

The thing about the shirts for $40 ... are they soft cotton? How is the fit? I'd hate to throw down that much and get some shit-fitting shirt with thick (cheap) cotton material that makes me sweat like a whore in church.

Go to my FaceBook to see the hoodie, beanie and tee that I bought. The shirts that were sold outside the venue were a lot cheaper but, they were also NOT the same ones. They had slight lettering imperfectiions or dates were wrong on the tour dates. They didn't have hoodies either. Oh, and the hoodies are the zip up kind so they are worth paying a little more, in my opinion. (I'm usually a cheapskate! Lol)

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Oh, and yes, they took credit cards at the Atlanta show, too.

The address you gave doesn't work.

Again oh my god sucks can we quit this shit already

It's like telling them to play my world

#MYWORLD Twitter them that idiot

"Oh My God" doesn't suck at all, especially that live version of it. I imagine if they re-recorded it or just played it live with the current band it would sound even better.

Again oh my god sucks can we quit this shit already

It's like telling them to play my world

#MYWORLD Twitter them that idiot

Tony might be a little harsh, but amen brotha.

The only good thing about that song is that we heard new music on the radio for the first time in 6 years or whatever.

I'm gonna start tweeting for You Ain't the First. That song blows away OMG! hee hee

I would love to see "You Ain't the First."

Oh My God is the best song of the so-called new GN'R era.

It just baffles me that they refuse to play 50-70% of their own material. This has been going on for 10 years now. Absolutely incomprehensible.

What do you mean their "own" material? Chinese Democracy is DJ and Bumblefoot's material?

I love Chinese Democracy. That said, this review sounds like complete fanboyism. It reads like someone jerking off to the sound of Axl Rose's voice.