Grayfox

Similar to how Axl didn’t know where he was the other night. Duff didn’t know that date that day

To be fair. When Absurd and Hardskool debuted it wasn’t the start of the NA tour. So it’s entirely possible they might not do it at the first NA. But it’s possible they could. There’s a 7 day gap between legs. Last show is on a Saturday. First show of NA is on a Saturday. Could drop during that week. Or the Friday before the last European show. Honestly it’s just hard to tell because there’s no rhyme or reason to their actions. I’d personally release Perhaps July 21st. Play it at the last show. Then on August 4th release The General. Strike again while the irons hot. Push any more ticket sales they can get off for people and call it good.

It really is strange. I couldn’t see Axl allowing it either. Especially since it’s a song he didn’t even write since it existed prior to Richard joining. I believe Nothing is a rough demo idea. I personally believe it’s been fleshed out more in the middle section where there’s the scratch vocals.

Exactly. Especially considering Axl didn’t originally want to put This I Love on the record. So we can guarantee that wasn’t a song that bumped anything. Originally Chinese Democracy probably had: Better, There Was A Time, Street of Dreams, If The World, Chinese Democracy, IRS and Madagascar. The rest were probably determined because of leaks. At least to a certain extent

I agree 100% here. There’s no doubt in my mind there’s more that’s yet to be heard. Instrumentals, there’s probably hundreds. Scratch vocals demos like State of Grace and Quick Song. Basically a 2 year period of time documented. Perhaps at the time he deemed a lot done in his mind so they got back burnered. I firmly believe 2002-2005 has many demos. No doubt the antiquiet leaks dictated the track list. Probably said the album needs all the leaked tracks plus whatever else to flesh it out more. So they added Shacklers, Scraped, Sorry, and This I Love. I definitely believe there’s more than 15+ completed left.

Seems as if that is the case. Lack of context was bad there before

Really?! Don’t play with someone’s heart strings if it’s not true..

Wasn’t As It Began used as part of another bands song that Richard worked with? But we’d also have Thyme, Tonto, and Nothin. I think we could have a full LP easily

What would be cool is at the end of a show flash a surprise QR code up on the screens that links to a download of a new single or EP. Free. No release anywhere else except through the QR code. Then after the tour drop the physical disc etc on the shop and have up on the standard streaming services

It was a vague comment. I forgot which show it was. But someone said they thought they could hear the intro piece. But there was planes flying overhead. I believe another person who attended confirmed it. No audio. And the original person said they thought they did but wasn’t 100%

The orchestra intro piece they use to open with.

What do you mean links?

Nah, that’s a different card “The Ge….” One has Richard, Slash, Dizzy There Was A Time has Slash on top

True. But it was a “staple” for sometime in 93. But sometimes you have to shove it in peoples faces until they like it

I wouldn’t be against The Garden.. as much as I want The General. Bother would be great

They really are. Sometimes it almost seems like they think to themselves “Oh the fans know too much. Lock it down!” I really do believe to an extent the leaks have pushed their decisions a lot. It’s like when we know too much they shut it down. Then when there’s nothing left to know they just say “what the hell, let it ride”. It almost feels something has to leak again to force their hand.

So we will finally be able to get an estimate on the tracks length? Then we can have the CSI team do the math on how much time would be left on a CD and finally put to bed the discussion on how many tracks will be on CD2. Thank god for Fernando and how he continues to giveth back to the community!

Fire got too hot so they had to pull it back off. Maybe next time when it gets less attention

It would be wild if The General does in fact get released.. without a prior version leaking before. I know a handful of songs didn’t “leak” off Chinese Democracy. But this would be the first release in “forever” that is essentially unheard. Kind of crazy if the signs are being read right.

“The General G” did also for what it’s worth

It’s only open on the day of a show. So it will be open again tomorrow.

If we go by what Axl said in the chats years ago we know he recorded vocals for it. If it wasn’t for the Locker leaks there would have only been 5 songs we knew for sure had vocals. Soul Monster one of them. So it has to mean something to Axl. So I think it’s possible that could be one. Slash also said some of the songs were more complex. Based off the sound check of perhaps we know that’s not it

If I had to guess. I’d say the songs are: Hard Skool Absurd Perhaps The General Atlas Shrugged Soul Monster Any other Chinese Democracy material I think will come out someday untouched from its former state as a sorta bonus deluxe version. Assuming we can take Slash at his word and it isn’t misdirection or changed plans.

Maybe he was just misrepresented. Maybe Duff meant in around a weeks time. Perhaps it could be next week at the beginning of the week?