mystery

8 hours ago, Trin9498 said:

Saying there’s going to be new music is a 2002 take 😉 

At least in that era there were actual song titles and occasions where Axl would play music for journalists. The tone would be so much different right now if a song title leaked or someone talked about the recording process.

I made a thread about this last year and it's interesting to piece together from the few recordings post UYI tour to Chinese Democracy that his voice was kind of an issue as soon as 1994.

Ever since then there's periods where he either preserves the rasp or years like 2006, 2010, or 2016 where he really goes for it but Axl has never consistently sounded the same in different eras.

It'd be interesting to hear from his perspective because only he truly knows about his current capabilities and whether it's damaging at this point to sing full rasp.

Looking at those numbers and they're basically too big to fail at this point where they'd have to actually try to lose money. Touring in general with the exorbitant prices and fees seem to benefit the artists these days to the point that "Highest Grossing Tour of All-Time" doesn't mean much as they're probably all from the past 15-20 years.

3 minutes ago, Rovim said:

I think more material is going to be released just like last year. Might take a little while but I define that as still going/not over.  We got something to chew on this year in the form of the UYI box set so at least they're selling something other than merch and tickets.

Maybe next year Axl will release more tracks. If not next year, then the year after that and so on and so forth. He doesn't need to say a single word, just to be in the mood to release more music and that's still very possible imo.

I appreciate the optimism but the utter lack of communication from the guy up top means we'll never really know either way.

4 hours ago, Rovim said:

it's over when Axl says it's over. 

It's effectively over since Axl never ever says anything to the point Slash is basically the spokesman for the band. It reflects on his legacy that Chinese Democracy took over a decade to release and was joked upon by the mainstream press and that he hasn't done much artistically since.

If he truly didn't give a fuck like most people envision the legend of Axl Rose he'd have released Chinese Democracy much earlier than it came out and we'd have a slew of albums since. He's an obscenely wealthy guy who was extraordinarily talented in his prime and had so much early success that it set him up for life after. He seems perfectly content touring endlessly while having little to no communication regarding his actual plans for the band.

2 hours ago, El Guapo said:

Whatever it sounds like, chances are very high that you will be very disappointed.

If it was that great it would have been on Chinese Democracy and you know it.

So it's better to be a bad song that goes unreleased than to be released to the world and remove all doubt. Either way we've gotten so little material it would be worth it and at worse it would be average. I liked most of the leaked songs because while they weren't the greatest songs of all time, they were still decent songs and a look into what could have been.

It baffles me that the General was talked about as this big epic but has yet to be released or performed. We got Atlas Shrugged albeit an early version as a more polished version nearly made Chinese Democracy. The General is the last unreleased song I really care about though, like Sebastian Bach heard it in 2007 but it's been kept under wraps for reasons.

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

Are you guys really still excited for these ancient leftover tracks, even after Absurd and Hardskool? :/

Probably more so because Axl's voice has declined greatly since he first recorded whatever he has left from the Chinese Democracy era. I'd rather listen to songs recorded in 1999-2000 or even 2005-2007 than whatever Axl can muster in the studio in 2022. 

1 hour ago, smokingarthur said:

I mean, they can’t continue touring in 2023 without ANY new music can they?

Christ, every band is releasing new music, some have released multiple albums just since the pandemic.

This is as unbelievable as it is believable. Those singles Slosh talked about really need to see the light of day soon….

The year is 2029, Guns N' Roses have been on the Not in This Lifetime Tour for 13 years and Slash in an interview with Eddie Trunk says that the band has been working on new music and his relationship with Axl is great. He also announces that there's a new tour and album with Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators. 

4 minutes ago, BucketEgg said:

were they deliberately trying to make that video a bad apple itself!? that framerate is atrocious, everything is blurry, stuff is warped. it's like they took a roll of film, and a cat, and then asked the cat to scratch out half of the frames, taped those frames together with foggy adhesive tape, then asked the cat to piss on the footage, and then blowdried the film to get the warped effect.

Think I saw somewhere that this video was made long after the fact in the 2000's. They could have cobbled together some live footage and it would make for a much better video.

That weird video for Bad Apples that just uses blurred footage from Don't Cry and I'm not 100% sure is even official.

That riot fucked up a lot of the 2000's for them. I'm always interested in Axl disappearing from 1994-2000 but this was a second recluse period where he wasn't seen publicly from 2003-early 2006.

In between you had Axl voice a character for GTA: San Andreas in 2004, Mike Piazza leaking some then unreleased Chinese Democracy tracks on Eddie Trunk's radio show in 2003, a cancelled appearance at Rock in Lisboa in 2004 due to Buckethead's departure, and Slash drunkenly showing up at Axl's house in 2005.

41 minutes ago, Legendador said:

Be concerned when we reach this same time of the year in 2061, then we'll have only two months before the ginger turns 100.

I bet my ass that then the third generation of TEAM BRAZIL will release the vault as they did with Prince, only for us to find out that there was only one song left there, tha McDaddy one.

On Chi Dem there's minimal to no rasp, and I bet most people didn't even noticed.

The 99 vocals are already recorded.

I've heard it said that the amount of clean vocals on Chinese Democracy was a conscious decision on Axl's part to fit some of the songs and likely because his voice in general went through sime changes after 1993. There's songs with minimal or no rasp on Chinese but then there's some with a good amount like the title track, Better, Shackler's Revenge, and the intro to Street of Dreams. It was clear he still easily had the rasp but he used it more selectively.

If a new album somehow happens does it feature much rasp from Axl or will it be mostly clean sounding vocals? Pulling off some limited rasp even in a studio setting seemed possible around 2016-17 but it feels like we'd get vocals that are just a polished version of what he currently does live.

34 minutes ago, sofine11 said:

It’s almost as though every time Slash makes a concrete prediction, someone is hellbent on making him look like a tit for opening his mouth. At least that’s been the trend up until my posting this.

Axl feeds him the wrong information for shits and gigs.

7 hours ago, Chris 55 said:

the appetite set was like that too wasn't it?

The band was at least playing Shadow of Your Love and even added it to the reissue of the GH album around that time.

It doesn't bother me as much that they constantly tour as much that Axl wasted most of his vocal prime in his 30's and 40's while touring endlessly in his 50's and now 60's. Like how awesome would some 1999 concerts have been or even 2004-05?

I think the release of Chinese Democracy in 2008 made Axl done with recording songs while Guns became purely a touring band. They've been touring almost every year since 2009 with the exception of 2015 and 2020-21 being mostly wiped out by Covid.

I don't know if it's a common thing but it seems like the current band has barely acknowledged this release on the current tour. Like play a rarity or make a cool intro video of concerts from that era or even do a retrospective interview. You can't expect people to care when it seems like the band itself doesn't care.

7 hours ago, jacdaniel said:

Stripped back Guns like late 80s and 91 would be brilliant to hear. Too much bloat has always been the big problem with this band. 

I dislike a lot of the 1992 Use Your Illusion shows because of the back-up singers. They work on a few songs but bring down most of the others.

34 minutes ago, Bitchisback said:

GNR greatest hits was the #81 on the billboard 200 this year. 

That album has had some astonishingly long legs from the beginning for such a thrown together greatest hits album. Like it got Axl, Slash, and Duff on the same side of a lawsuit preventing its release when none of them were on speaking terms.

Yeah, they're likely to quietly retire having made much more money than they ever did in their prime. Who knows if we'll ever see Axl again but I imagine the other members would move on to other projects. I don't see Slash ever retiring as a musician and could easily see him keep going into his 70's.

41 minutes ago, LunsJail said:

Yeah, did she quit? Why are we talking about this?

People don't think she contributes enough even though the band had 2 keyboardists onstage from 2001-2014 with Chris Pitman and Dizzy Reed.

20 minutes ago, lame ass security said:

Just a username, I know very little about event security. 

I know it's a reference to the St. Louis riot but I couldn't resist.

8 hours ago, Amir said:

From the line-up I was really excited, but on the actual day I was a bit underwhelmed. I'd seen Faith No More once before at Brixton Academy in 2012 and that was a fantastic show. But the 2014 show was a totally different vibe. Early afternoon, very sunny, weird atmosphere for FNM, and then they debuted two new songs. I thought a club show like Brixton would have been a much better place to play new music, instead it got a muted reception at an open-air festival where they were openers and not headliners. Motorhead weren't bad, and Chris Cornell had a good vibe with the crowd in Soundgarden, he chatted a lot between songs, which was cool. Sabbath weren't bad, I know @Powerage5 thought they were underwhelming but I'd never seen them before (or since) so I'm glad I got to see them.

I was surprised at how much more I enjoyed Neil Young & Crazy Horse the following week, he was really powerful on stage.

Sol Invictus is such a boring , unambitious album and probably the worst in their catalog. I'm guessing they played Matador. Faith No More was supposed to play shows the past few years but Covid and Mike Patton having mental health issues means they haven't played a show with him since 2015.