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15 hours ago, lame ass security said:

I saw that Axl was having some issues with drone intrusion during some recent shows. How close do those things get to the stage? 

As lame ass security I thought you would know this.

6 minutes ago, Ratam said:

Wow! It become in MyMetallicaForum.com.....

Because they like actually do stuff instead of Guns who have mostly been in a time warp since 2016. It's similar to the Chinese Democracy era when 2009-2014 was kind of one long blur.

43 minutes ago, We love Axl Rose said:

5 years ago today, GN'R held their longest show at The Forum, Inglewood.

Setlist: It’s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Welcome To The Jungle, Double Talkin’ Jive, Better, Estranged, Live And Let Die, Catcher In The Rye, Rocket Queen, Sorry, You Could Be Mine, You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory/Attitude, This I Love, Prostitute, Civil War, Yesterdays, Coma, Band Intros, Slash Solo (Godfather)/Sweet Child O' Mine, Wichita Lineman (Glen Campbell cover), Used To Love Her, My Michelle, Out Ta Get Me, Wish You Were Here/Layla/November Rain, Black Hole Sun, Only Women Bleed (instrumental)/Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Nightrain

Encore: Jam (Melissa)/Patience, Whole Lotta Rosie, There Was A Time, Don’t Cry, Madagascar, The Seeker, Paradise City

Wasn't their previous longest show at the same venue?

On 11/23/2022 at 4:55 AM, eggers said:

I’m sure it’s been discussed but I’ve noticed things don’t seem to get pulled off YouTube anymore? Is there any info as to what’s happened?

They should just let it be. Their policy seemed antagonistic towards fans and kind of limited exposure to them especially live. Reminds me of Prince who had a company take all of his stuff down which changed when he died.

I wonder at this point what a new album would actually be about lyrically? Chinese Democracy seemed almost biographical about Axl's failed relationship with Stephanie Seymour and the old band's breakup. Would a new one be more political? Would there be a love song that's indirectly about Slash?

2 hours ago, allwaystired said:

I assume they don't give a flying fuck. If they did, they'd do something. 

100 per cent. That some people say "there's no point in doing new music as it wouldn't be as good as AFD" is pretty much the low point for justifying doing nothing. 

Preach, there's people that have the opinion that other artists new albums are trash so why compare them to Guns N' Roses? The point is those bands are at least doing stuff creatively in the present day and not resting on their laurels. I'd rather see a band try and if the music sucks it's at least done in earnest and you also get different setlists out of it.

35 minutes ago, UYI4 said:

And Metallica just announced a new album and first single is live.  Yet here we are waiting for nothing lol.

The Red Hot Chili Peppers who are peers of Guns released 2 albums this year too and John Frusiciante who's like the Slash of that band rejoined them at the very end of 2019. It's really like George RR Martin never flat out saying he's never finishing ASOIAF but giving these frustrating updates that sound the same. Slash is the biggest culprit of people thinking new music is coming but never just saying nah, Axl is too lazy or uninterested to do shit. 

8 hours ago, mikeman5150 said:

Absolutely some people don’t like it because it’s different, but you’re kidding yourself if you don’t think that many never even gave it a chance/listened to it because Slash wasn’t there. I think to the general fan base, everything after slash left was the VMA’s freak show and nobody really cared. If they did, they would’ve sold a lot more albums, and a lot more concert tickets. 

People underestimate how big it was that Slash was no longer part of the band to the general audience. He was also having chart success with Velvet Revolver which included more recognizable Guns N' Roses members than the band itself did at the time. VR was delivering that classic rock sound that people were clamoring for in the mid-2000s while Chinese Democracy was not that. Also and I've talked about this at length, Axl's appearance along with the other members definitely made people go wtf. Axl looked completely different in 2002 than in 1993-94 and was being made fun of endlessly for the braids, his face, weight gain, and the weird hip-hop fashion he adapted in 2002. Guns was just an uncool band until nostalgia kind of kicked in during the early 2010s and was solidified with the 2016 reunion.

She's starting off with Welcome to the Jungle first to prepare her audience and eventually sing Breakdown which is her true favorite GNR song.

3 minutes ago, We love Axl Rose said:

Pin @alfierose@janrichmond

Why was that gate even there?

I feel like comparing what happened in 1991 to 2008 is kind of apples and oranges. The Ritz was a warmup gig for albums that were supposed to come out earlier than they did. Chinese Democracy was Axl pissed off at the record label and promotion of his album so he did like 3 interviews around the time of its release, went on boards including this one for some Q&As, and then dipped for most of 2009 while the album just died. 

In the late 2000s and even today music videos are still an important promotional tool. Red Hot Chili Peppers have 40 million views for Black Summer from Unlimited Love and 400 million for Dark Necessities from the Getaway. You can't tell me that wouldn't have helped Chinese Democracy from 2008-2010. 

16 hours ago, Nintari said:

When I buy a live album, it's because I want to listen to the band... live. If I wanted a studio take, I would buy the studio record. The fact that this opinion is the minority baffles the fuck out of me and to no end. I mean it too. I literally can not fathom how that is not the mainstream way of thinking. Live album=live. Studio album=studio. That's the way it should have always been. But no... fucking Kiss and their fucking sound-check nonsense... sigh.

It's why YouTube and all the pro-shot and bootleg shows being in one place is an absolute godsend.

On 11/10/2022 at 1:52 PM, TheSlashrose said:

I confess that when I bought Live Era at the time I didn't imagine it had been re-recorded.

Understandable because live shows from the band would've been 6 years ago in 1999 and unless you went to a bunch of them, had one of the released VHS tapes, recorded a TV performance, or had bootlegs there wasn't much of a frame of reference. There was no YouTube that had easy access to multiple shows from the era and no concept of Axl's 99 voice to compare with the finished Chinese Democracy songs.

Madagascar, it packs an emotional punch but the tempo is too slow and Axl's vocals remind me too much of Tina Turner.

1 hour ago, Spiritual_Chaos said:

It was also the debut album, that is iconic and very well regarded. I would imagine through the years more people have been picking up Appetite than the Illusions albums. It's their "The Black Album".

I mean Pearl Jam went from selling their Ten box set (similar to this one) everywhere, to throwing VS and Vitalogy together in one combined box and just selling that one from their own fanclub. Then stopped completely. 

Makes sense for Pearl Jam honestly because from Vs on they decided to not be nearly as mainstream so there's not near as much to sell. There's no visual identity from that era apart from their SNL appearance because they made no music videos and rarely made public appearances. Your only frame of reference is if you saw them live from 1993-95.

I think Guns N' Roses currently doesn't do enough to make people keep tabs on them and be aware that a UYI boxset exists. No new music or music videos, no interviews or appearances by Axl I'm aware of since 2016, and a live show that's a nostalgia act that's been going on for almost 7 years now.

In this day and age they can release archive clips easily like they did for Used to Love Her last year but they just don't. This might be the last big boxset release unless they release a Chinese Democracy boxset for some reason in 2039.

41 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Yeah, I'm sure everyone is thrilled with the UYI reissue selling so few copies and not entering the top 200 album chart. You're right. It's a great success. 

And seeing as you asked again, yes the Appetite reissue did sell. It entered the top 10 album chart. People bought it. Fuck all people have bought this one. Not an opinion, just a fact. 

My business "theory" is "if something sells it will get made". That really isn't a "theory" though. And the suggestion that dismal sales for this reissue makes any other reissues less likely really isn't a "theory" either. 

 

Yeah, it sold pretty well. Went top 10 in America. 

That one also came out much closer to the 2016 reunion where there was still some novelty about the band. We're 4 years after that one where most casual fans have moved on and it feels like the band themselves have barely promoted it. Thor: Love and Thunder somehow promoted it more.

This whole boxset puts emphasis on how there's such a large gap in the band's history where touring and recording music came to a screeching halt. Part of me thinks that Slash, Duff, and Matt would've stuck it out if Axl felt like touring at all from 1994-2000. There's such an irony these days that all they seem to do now is tour which is extremely bittersweet when you consider we lost many years of what should've been the band's prime. 

Axl and Shannon Hoon on Don't Cry at the Ritz show is straight up sexy.

On 11/10/2022 at 2:42 PM, We love Axl Rose said:

DJ Ashba turns 50. today! 

Kind of mindblowing, I thought he was in his early 40's and it always feels like he's trying to look like he's eternally 25.

12 hours ago, Legendador said:

But I always though MY WORLD as AXL's predictement to the future, he was highly influenced by Nine Inch Nails, Butthole Suffers, Ministry, and I think this was his way to make something "different" and that with the Nu Metal scene / industrial metal era would become the thing.

"My World" is the wrong song, for the wrong band at the wrong time, but nothing different than what Nine Inch Nails, Korn, Ministry, Limp Bizkit, Orgy, Deftones would do years later.

Being "My World" made and played by one of those bands would it be that bad?

The concept of My World as a more realized industrial song with the rest of the band isn't a bad one but didn't he apparently record it himself without the other members realizing? Oh My God feels like a better attempt at it years later and My World at best should've been a B-Side because it's a jarring end to Use Your Illusion Ii.

1 hour ago, Tom-Ass said:

Metallica does it right. I am kind of laid up right now and have had live Metallica playing on my TV for hours on youtube.  They give so much to their fans and are still a phenomenal live band. 

For a band that gets shit for the Napster thing, they release a whole bunch of cool stuff on YouTube even if it's not optimal quality because they're not so hesitant about their past and aren't trying to monetize it as much as they can. 

4 minutes ago, GnR Chris said:

UYI 2 is superior to 1. I don’t care how much “filler” someone says the record might have. Consider them bonuses, not filler. ‘Cause even if you stripped them away, you still have a full-length record with just these: Civil War, Yesterdays, 14 Years, Breakdown, Pretty Tied Up, Locomotive, Estranged, You Could Be Mine. All bangers. 

I prefer 2 over 1 as some of the rock tracks on UYI I (RNDTH, Perfect Crime, DDM, GOE) are alright but UYI II brings more of an emotional impact with songs like Breakdown, Estranged, 14 Years, and Civil War. I took away what I consider filler from both of them in one of my posts and they still have 12 songs each.