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I've come to learn that Izzy has probably never handled anything in his life poorly and is the biggest reason GN'R was a success in the AFD/early UYI days

I don't have a good enough handle on Axl's vocals to know if that's authentic or a really good impersonation.  I'm sure there's a number of people out there that can emulate the sound of his voice and I'm sure some are fans.  With creativity, I'm sure some fans have made some convincing "GN'R  fan songs".  A type of fan-art.  If you will

I can't find Duff and Slash's Sentimental Movie on youtube anymore.  Was that taken down in a similar manner to what this thread is about?

Love them.  Fav is KOHD.  A few other favs are Hair Of The Dog, I'm A Human Being, Black Leather and Since I Don't Have You

2 hours ago, Twinaleblood said:

Down By The Ocean (its title then changed to Box) was eventually used by Izzy on his solo album Fire, so you can listen to it there.

49 minutes ago, Draguns said:

Nobody really knows that for sure.  Some have speculated that Box is Down by the  Ocean while others have said it's not.  I don't think it has ever been confirmed. 

2 hours ago, Ratam said:

"This plus Izzy's" is "Down the Ocean" 

Thanks for this info, everyone

On 2/22/2019 at 5:29 PM, Gibson_Guy87 said:

Soul Monster

Thyme (Tyme?)

Seven

Checkmate/Jackie Chan

The General

Atlas Shrugged

 

That'd be a pretty killer track list, plus whatever Axl has that we don't know about

All this plus Izzy's "Down by the River" (or something like that, whatever it's called) that allegedly Axl and ChiDem era members were tinkering around with

I want a bluesy-rock album predominantly written by Axl, Slash, Duff and Fortus with some involvement from Izzy (I'd like more involvement from Izzy, but I'm thinking best case scenario, he'd only be involved with a song or a few songs).  I'd like Steven to handle the drums on one of the songs and maybe even Sorum too (maybe even Gilby playing on a song since he never got a chance to contribute on new material when he was in the band outside of covers from TSI and possibly the cover of Sympathy For The Devil?)

If they do a new album I think it would be cool if Izzy was involved with 3 or so tracks.  I'd really love to hear that "Down By The River" (or something like that) unreleased GN'R song that is apparently mostly done by Izzy and was being worked on during the ChiDem era.  I know not many people will care but I thought Axl's camp called Izzy "family" in response to the questions about Izzy not being in the NITL tour and his remarks on Twitter regarding that and Axl didn't seem particularly mad when asked about Izzy in that one televised interview he did early on in the NITL tour.  Duff seemed so close to Izzy before the Axl/Slash/Duff reunion took place.  I hope Duff and Izzy's friendship hasn't soured over this whole situation

Whatever happened with Paul Tobias after he left the band?  Are he and Axl still friends?

A new SONG before the end of NEXT YEAR?  Well, hot dog

4 hours ago, Sosso said:

He was talking about film scores and not a new album. 

I know, but what he said about the film scores (essentially "maybe I'll get to it in the future") is just so Axl and reflects the concern and doubt people have of him releasing new GN'R music

"something I'd like to do at some point in the future" lol, Axl cracks me up.  I wouldn't even be mad if he never released another album or opened the vault.  That would add to his mystique

Edit: whoops, wrong thread

15 minutes ago, DeadSlash said:

I don't think Axl was ever planning on it being one album and done, it makes more sense to hold on to amazing songs when the plan was to follow the album up with another one in the next couple of years.

You're right and he said as much in interviews.  He had talked about a follow up to Chinese Democracy and referred to it as like the second half of the project. I don't know why I didn't consider that.  Yeah, you'd want heavy hitter songs for that album.  I wonder if we'll ever hear those songs

I think ChiDem (the song), Better, SOD, TWAT, CITR, Sorry, Madagascar, TIL and Prostitute are all great to fantastic songs.  I know a lot of people are pretty high on Shackler's Revenge (and I think it's solid, sometimes I feel it more than other times) but that song, If The World, Riad, Scraped and maybe IRS are all decent to good songs IMO and if the vault has stuff like rumored amazing songs like Thyme, etc, I wonder why some of these serviceable but nothing amazing songs ended up on the album over some real gold from the ChiDem era instead.

I'm really into the Illusion albums though and they all have 3 or so songs that probably are just decent and nothing special.  Maybe with albums, that's just sort of how it goes.  Usually there will be a few songs that are fine but nothing too impressive

I really think some of Axl's best lyrics and delivery are on this album.  I know some find CITR corny and I'm not too into the live versions, but I think it's a pretty amazing song and feels like it would feel pretty at home on UYI 2 or a mid/late 90s GN'R album had the band not broken up.  The vocal work and guitars on TWAT are insane.  I'm grateful ChiDem exists

Awesome and relevant song for the band.

Speaking of their covers on that album, I love SIDHY.  I enjoy 50s era sort of music like the original is and Axl's voice is incredible on the song

"wardrobe change?"

No need to let a beautiful thing overstay the time it calls for.  Whether or not new GN'R music happens, I say let them move on to other things

3 hours ago, Kwick1 said:

Maybe I didn't hear correctly but doesn't he say "a bit of the Southern rock feel"?  He's not saying they are Southern rock or even Southern rock based but have a little bit of the feel. I would say Axl is spot on in that description of KOHD, Civil War

Maybe I misquoted him

2 hours ago, Towelie said:

Surprised nobody has mentioned Bad Apples in this thread, seeing as it's the most obvious Southern rock track on UYI.

It's mentioned in the original post of the thread, or at least it was meant to be if I forgot to put it in

A more exact quote is back in the early 90s, Axl described the sound of the first half of UYI II as "the South will rise again" but I feel in the context of what he was getting at, he just meant it has a more southern sound, not a controversial political statement, so I edited the comment in the title a bit to avoid people misunderstanding what Axl was getting at, potentially derailing what this thread is about

He says it at about 4:50 in this video;

I found this comment interesting since UYI II seems to be the most beloved GN'R record after Appetite, which isn't saying too much since Lies is a shorter record (two EP's put together?), Spaghetti is a cover album, and the mileage on if ChiDem is a 'true' GN'R record varies. 

I feel in general the two UYI albums have instances of kind of a bluesy-rock sound (Dust N Bones, Bad Obsession, Bad Apples, You Ain't The First, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, 14 Years, Yesterdays, Breakdown) that I feel point to the direction of where another amazing Guns N' Roses record could be found.

On 10/12/2018 at 8:11 PM, UsedYourIllusion said:

Rest in peace Shannon! Loved his singing

His backing vocals on Don't Cry add so much to that song

The guitar work on There Was A Time gives me chills

Axl didn't like Slash's wife, right?

9 hours ago, DK6 said:

Out of interest - what do you mean by rein it in a bit. Do you mean the live version?

The live version of this song is probably my favourite GNR song. Always my go-to on any new bootlegs - have to check the quality of the DTJ 

I mean the album version and I think I spelled rein in incorrectly (it's one of those words where the same sounding word has different meaning depending on how you spell it).  I love Axl's backing vocals to Izzy on Double Talkin Jove, but if I were in control I might tone it down just a tad, like when Axl says "no more patience man, you dig what I'm saying? Punk?" I wouldn't have Axl say that "punk" part.  I'd have him stop when he says "you dig what I'm saying?"