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1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

I guess @Mindray11 , who recorded it, can answer that. I'm sure he has explained it before.

I never knew the cellphone clip only surfaced so recently, I thought it was from around the time it was recorded, and also assumed evaders version was thus also that old, like 2013 lol. When did it come out?

1 hour ago, Lethalis said:

The songs which made GNR famous are more than 30 years old.

You can't expect the band to sound the same. Also, without Izzy on board, they will sound different anyway. Probably more like Velvet Revolver with Axl.

Izzy is what gave this band a more traditional rock feel. Even though Slash shines on blues rock, it is not necessarily what he wants to create.

Maybe people should listen to Slash his Halloween album. They might recognize him on The General afterwards

What Axl has done on The General and Monsters is not a huge departure of what Slash likes to do. Keep that in mind.

And a lot of music he has  created with Myles Kennedy is just straight up modern rock:

It's not that traditional or bluesy.

I personally don't mind however, because I have quite a broad taste in music.

If GNR never disbanded and would have kept creating music all these years, they would not sound the same as on AFD. Having Duff and Slash back is not some time machine that will teleport us back to those years.

Izzy could change things a bit, but he won't come back.

 

Not sure how you put Shadow Life instead of The Unholy which is even on the same album That one is not far off from The General in terms of disturbingness music and lyric wise.

It blows my mind that that one came out almost 10 years ago, yet The General predates it by nearly 12 years. And it's only coming out 9 years after. Lmao GNR timeline

6 minutes ago, colonizedmind said:

In agreement....no reason to call Axl a liar....he had no particular reason to say a CD2 was ready and finished in 2014....no one was really putting him under pressure for that then....so one would imagine that was around 10-15 songs done....we've had 5 now....

It just confirms he had written lyrics for Cuban Skies, not that he had recorded them. I've no doubt he spent days or nights writing lyrics for it, but actually going into the studio and recording vocals is a different thing. I'd love for this unheard stuff to come out, but we have no real proof of it.

On 10/30/2023 at 2:29 AM, colonizedmind said:

This is the holy grail for me....

Axl's French accent fresh vocals were not the best decision though....

 

LOL

9 minutes ago, Rayvela said:

I don't think they were ripped from vinyl

So this means you think Slash and Duff recorded "demos" that leaked? Somehow demos recorded in the last 4 years, got into our hands? Of 20 year old songs? 

Anyone who doesn't think Slash is on those recordings doesn't know what he's fucking talking about. For real, people who play guitar and know Slashs style inside out KNOW he's on these recordings. And this in turn means, that if you think what we have are "demos", what the hell would be the point in recording demos in songs that have been around for 20 years? Slash and Duff added their parts, and that's what's coming out. The fact what we have sounds like demos and crappy is because it was ripped from a vinyl, that was already so shit it was rejected because of bad quality. Ripping audio from a vinyl is already not great, but one that was so bad it was rejected by the artist, of course it's gonna sound shit.

10 minutes ago, kitstuai said:

Impossible, you can't just bring your usb key and steal the tracks haha that's a very secured process and whoever try to do this is instantly fired. Also, why take such a risk when the songs will be released soon after

So you believe Slash and Duff recorded a DEMO of a song from 2003? And that this version, as impossible as it seems, somehow leaked and got into our hands?

Clearly they reworked it and someone took home a vinyl of that and riped it. The delay was only announced on THE DAY it was supposed to ship, so they must have had thousands of copies printed and ready already, you don't have like 10 vinyls ready on the day you're supposed to release. Not a stretch to assume atleast 1000 have been made by the time they announced this isn't shipping on the 27th.

21 minutes ago, kitstuai said:

The vinyl never shipped, Fernando said they wasn't satisfied with the first pressing they received

I'm not talking about people who ordered it, but people who were involved in the production of the vinyl

Plus, didn't someone say Cuban Skies was about Cigars? How would that song have been about cigars if it didn't have vocals?

5 minutes ago, GNFNRUK said:

 

I believe that is Axl saying “Oh daddy don’t” in a higher pitch. He seems to do that during the verses as it is also present at 0:37, albeit buried in the mix.

WTF, you are correct the exact same vocal appears on 0:38-0:39 but I don't hear "oh daddy don't", the person just says it in under half a second, it really doesn't sound like Axl, it sounds like a soundbite taken from somewhere else like a movie or something.

On 10/30/2023 at 3:02 PM, SlashisGOD said:

I’m waiting for Oklahoma and whatever became of Me and My Elvis next. The two strongest of the instrumental tracks.

+ Tonto

Ok am I tripping or is there a background voice at 1:57 in The General that says "fuck that" ? It doesn't sound like Axl, sounds more like a female voice

7 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

5. Eye on You (lol)

9. The General

MacDaddy don't

19 minutes ago, rumandraisin said:

Hasn't been asked, you're the first. 

Anyone know whether The General is State of Grace btw, haven't seen anyone ask. 

Isn't it hilarious the SOG conspiracy wasn't true, but that ANOTHER song ended up being The General? We thought SOG was The General, meanwhile Soul Monster was The General the entire time.

6 minutes ago, Coma16 said:

For sure, the first few people would have been surprised (just as they were when they listened to The General leak), but the rest of us would have found out via the internet and digital rips

Of course, the surprise was only meant for the people who actually ordered the vinyl. With the leak, the only surprise was the leak itself, not the way it was intended to have to listen to The General all the way through to find out there's actually a 2nd song, and it being the actual song you wanted the entire time. We knew right away 2 songs leaked so the surprise was ruined pretty much.

1 hour ago, Coma16 said:

But minus the vinyl, isn't that (almost) exactly what happened?

Well it happened, but in a much less cool way. Imagine putting on your vinyl and being disappointed with The General, and you're like where's the fucking section from the cell phone leak? And then after a few seconds of silence another song starts, and you're like what? And then THERE IT IS.

I'm sure Axl was aware that many people thought that part of Soul Monster was The General the entire time, so the way it was to be revealed that way with the second hidden song coming in, you gotta give it to GNR and TB that's fucking masterful planning. If that really was the idea all along, then that's fucking cool and finally something awesome the band did for fans.

3 minutes ago, Cosmo said:

I'm thinking it's a hidden track too

I'm thinking somehow they do belong together in some way though, Monsters has part of The Generals 2006 orchestra show intro in it, and is also a continuation of the lyrics in The General, atleast in my opinion. There was clearly some thought put into putting them together like that, even when they're not one song.

2 hours ago, Cosmo said:

Well, so much for "The General and Monsters is one song, you have to treat them like the same creation, they complement each other and should be listened to as one piece of work"

 

Guess not, according to what we're seeing.

Some guy uploaded Monsters to Soundcloud and it was taken down due to copyright with the notice: "the file you've uploaded contains audio of "The General" by Guns N Roses".

So they're either fused together, or Monsters is supposed to be a hidden track for the vinyl.

18 minutes ago, lpgnr said:

The outro solo is Fortus not Slash. 

It's both, Slash until exactly 4:03, then Fortus takes over

3 minutes ago, DSTK said:

Both tracks / one 9 min track ( whichever it is ) won't fit on a 7" 

Yes they will, jesus christ. This has been posted about 18274 times in this thread already.

1 minute ago, WhazUp said:

Does anyone else feel like we are losing brain cells reading some of these comments? 

Between the idea that The General/Monsters doesn't have Slash on them, nuGNR could have "saved rock n roll", and that all Slash does is repetitive blues licks I have never come across the type of crack these people are smoking lol

If I ever feel like I want to abuse drugs, I will contact these people

12 hours ago, t-p-d-a said:

Absurd - 10 / 10

Hard Skool - 10 / 10

Perhaps - 10 / 10

The General - 10 / 10

Monsters - 10 / 10

A man who is enjoying life to the fullest lol

9 hours ago, iftheworld said:

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Agreed