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  1. I've recently been watching bootlegs kinda cronologically (and reviewing them), right now I'm at the Buckethead era and I'm wondering about which show do you guys think was the best of this lineup. Axl's voice was mostly weak (it has a different kind of Mickey) but the lineup was cool and there was excitement in the air. HOB 2001 and Rio 2001 are classics, Leeds 2002 is pretty cool, Albany has a very interesting and long Axl rant about Slash and Duff and perhaps Bucket's best Nightrain solo. I haven't checked Boston, Chicago or New York MSG and I don't really want to watch all three if they're going to be very similar, which one's the best? Any good show I forgot to mention?

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  2. I seriously doubt Absurd will be a stand-alone single, the band and Axl never do that unless it's from the soundtrack of a movie and no movie wants Absurd.

    I'm probably too optimistic/dumb but do you guys think that just like their three previous releases they will release the new album on november and Axl spent the pandemic finishing it, the album's ready and Absurd and Hard Skool are the singles that will precede it while in the memantime they tour?

  3. Don't Cry, November Rain and You Could Be Mine weren't new songs either when they released them in 1991 so...

    It's so crazy that most of us assume Axl is a crazy perfectionist and that's why he doesn't release anything and then that Mf comes and releases this bizarre (and far from perfect) song out of nowhere. Hopefully this makes Axl realize that relesing stuff at this point in his career is no big deal.

    Surely this means Hard Skool will be released when they play it, right? I now believe that we'll get a new album before CD turns 15 years old.

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  4. I'm back. ROCK IN RIO 2001: the return of GNR and specifically Axl Rose after years in the dark (ignoring the great HOB performance). The most hyped and exciting performance of that festival, let’s jump right into it.
    The intro is amazing. The cartoon intro is funny and the Exorcist 2 voice over builds up the excitement for the show brilliantly. I believe in pain! I believe in murder! (According to a review of the show, Noel Gallagher who was watching the show backstage shouted “I believe in buckets”). The end of the “I believe” speech is almost immediately followed by the first notes of WTTJ. Rad as fuck to see the whole crowd exploding with the start of Jungle, which is the perfect opener. South american crowds are always the best, this is just a fact. Axl moves across the stage just as he had always done, however his voice is not the same. While at the end of the UYI tour Axl reduced the amount of rasp to pretty much only when doing high notes and mostly used a very nasal tone, here Axl consciously avoids the rasp except for a few occasions. His voice is a different kind of Mickey to the one he did 2011 onwards: it’s more nasal and it differs according to if it’s high notes or mid-range songs. It’s the falsetto tone that’s present on many songs of the released CD. As a guy who doesn’t know shit about the technical aspect of singing, it’s hard to explain. Sure, it’s better than nowadays Mickey but it’s still not as good as the goold ol’ rasp. It’s a vocal tone pretty much unique to this era of the band so that’s what makes it interesting. We don’t know for sure the reason for his use of this voice in these years. Just a conscious change in style or he couldn’t reach the rasp live without damaging his voice?
    Last time we heard him sing was Live-era overdubs (what could have been a great album was butchered, sounds familiar?) and in that album he goes raspy (a different rasp to the one we knew, slightly more high-pitched and not as nasal) when singing with his mid-range but switches to falsetto when doing the high notes. Rocket Queen from that album is a perfect example of these voice changes, rasp on the verses and mostly falsetto on the outro. We don’t know the reason for this choice. Ironically, from 2011 onwards whenever Axl had to sing with his mid-range he went full Mickey but when he had to sing high notes he brought the rasp, the exact opposite! One of the many mysteries of the ginger’s voice.

    The new lineup is the coolest lineup Nu-GNR ever had, although back in the day it probably wasn’t as appreciated since they could only compare it to the classic band. The main focus of the audience is Axl, but it’s a bunch of really weird guys. Not only do you have a guy with a Michael Myers mask and a KFC bucket on his head but also a guy dressed as a goth alien (and Pitman looking like a Village People). Tommy and Brain look more normal and do a very good job at their instruments. At the start of ISE Axl runs to a direction where Bucket is walking to and they almost crash, then Axl briefly puts his hand on Bucket’s shoulder. It’s here where he stops singing and demands that a guy who (Iirc) had a “GNR = Slash” banner gets thrown out, it’s a funny moment and fortunately it didn’t make Axl stop the show. A riot here would have been a catastrophe, can you imagine?
    After Mr. B & before LALD, Axl does his first rant translated by Beta. He talks about his former bandmates (saying that they conspired against his comeback?) and said he understood why some might be disappointed that they’re not there. Axl mentions it’s Paul Huge 5th show overall in his life, pretty crazy that he’s playing to 200.000 people. And maybe he works at an office or something nowadays, imagine if you found out your co-worker once played a concert to 200k people. Without introduction, Oh My God comes and sounds cool as fuck (Bucketgead does a bit of the robot-dance during the intro haha). He performs it with his mickey-ish nasal voice and does a bit of rasp here and there. Axl arrives late on the last line of the song and performs it acapella and with rasp! Then comes Think About You, I love this song and the old band hadn’t played this since 1986 iirc. They didn’t even do it on the AFD tour! The Mickey-ish voice works well on this song imo. YCBM sounds ok but the voice clearly doesn’t work well with the song. While 2011 onwards he often went raspy during the bridge, here he does it with high-pitched Mickey during the first half and sneaks a bit of rasp on the second half. Axl then introduces Robin who talks in portuguese and plays Sossego to win the crowd. Then SCOM and then KOHD. 

    KOHD is closer to the original version but it feels painfully slow. Instead of the traditional call and response with the crowd Axl just repeats the chorus like 12 times. During that moment the camera focuses briefly on a guy wearing Slash’s trademark top hat and sunglasses and raising a Slash t-shirt, lucky for him Axl didn’t see that. We now see the live premiere of Madagascar. It’s clearly not the best version vocally with Axl Mickey-ing it a bit. He also plays guitar during the bridge for some reason.
    Buckethead time now. First his bizarre & cool nunchaku/break-dance routine then a cool galactic-sounding guitar solo with shredding. Allowing a nunchaku/breakdance performance as part of a solo, it’s clear that Axl didn’t care if people called the new band weird and instead he embraced it. November Rain has Robin doing his own take of the first two of the three iconic Slash solos. They’re not 100% different as he keeps some of the best licks but he changes many of them. It's certainly bold of him to do that instead of playing them note for note and they aren’t bad but his solos can’t compare to the original ones. Buckethead with glowing eyes in his mask plays the outro riff very efficiently and without deviating from the original too much. 

    Then comes OK performances of OGM & RQ. CD is a different version from the original, starts differently and the solo is shorter. Bucket does the Chicken Binge solo and they play The Blues. It’s a good performance (OK nevermind) but he kinda struggles at the high notes of the outro. Patience now, I wonder if it was hard for a guitarist as virtuous and capable as Bucket to be restricted to playing simple chords on an acoustic guitar. Nightrain. Buckethead nails the solo and adds a bit of his own take at the end of it, he shines and shreds at the outro. Robin is good and he greatly contributed to CD but damn it would’ve been so cool to have Buckethead as the only lead guitarist, having him just do rhythm on some songs feels like a waste.

    After the encore wait and a short jam between Robin & Bucket they play My Michelle, as with many of the songs it sounds ok but the lackluster vocals hold it back. Then they proceed to play an absurd song that they recently brought back. Way more industrial than the newer versions and the vocals are way Mickey-er. The “bitch like you” chorus is better than just repeating “Absurd” over and over. Easily the weakest of the CD songs performed here. After this, a brazillian samba group comes to play for a few minutes, it’s so random and unnecessary (and the crowd don’t get it either) but the chicks are hot so I’ll allow it. Finally, the band returns for PC with Axl shirtless and bringing back his trademark bandanna! He looks like classic Axl but with a few pounds more and sweatpants instead of shorts, still in good shape tho. Axl arrives late for the first “Take me downs” and sing it over the solo at the start for the first time. He has a lot of energy despite his voice not being at his best, Robin backing vocals sound louder than him for some reason. He runs into the crows for the final verse. Overall a satisfying show closer. The show ends with Axl talking to the crowd and bringing Beta on stage for an emotional moment.

    I would’ve given my left nut to be at that concert, not only because it was legendary but also because I’m a huge Oasis fan and they had played a great show earlier. Axl’s voice is the only downside for me but he isn’t terrible and he’s full of energy. I’d like to review next a show from the north american 2002 tour. Albany or Boston? Which one’s better?
     

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  5. The fact they played this confirms 100% that they're also going to play Hard Skool at some point in this tour (let's hope very soon). Imagine if they both become setlist regulars, two "new" and unreleased songs on the setlist that sounds cool as fuck and makes the tour better than it has been in a long long time. It would be the first time they play unreleased songs since fuckin' 2007.

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  6. Considering this allegedly new setlist is the same as the leaked one from 2020 there's a chance that that's not the real setlist or that they don't follow it closely. Still it wouldn't surprise that they follow the same basic order of ISE, MB, CD, Jungle, etc.

  7. Listened to it recently and for me it's a forgettable album, the only banger is Beggars & Hangers On (which he should play live more often with The Conspirators). More than half the songs I already forgot how they went. The bluesy riffs are cool but not enough to save the album.

    Maybe he needed Axl to bring different vocal melodies and contribute to the songs to make them better, although other than the mentioned song I don't remember if there was a riff that was really memorable there.

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