soon

With all thats made of Slashs work ethic and desire to tour, if he's not doing SMKC during this break does that mean he's working on a different project?

I haven't followed his day-to-day career for a while, so I'm not clear if he literally never takes down time?

Im going Parasite. 

And thats my own choice!

7 minutes ago, downliner said:

I've been developing my own bots for the last year and they've helped my business grow substantially without having to pay some unreliable human

like Axls thinking regarding Izzy?  

20 hours ago, Archtop said:

I love old hat, ?

I vote parasite.

I'll vote as you do next round as an act of good will for my comments about old hat 

4 minutes ago, blackieloveless said:

Cant imagine anyone backing "sanctuary cities " , I understand why the "stars" do they are hold up in mansions with big wrought iron fences and security and are also rubbing elbows with the globalists .

Anyone who's an asylum seeker who requires them to access heath services for their children. 

I am concerned about this stuff.  

ATM, Grocery checkout machines, lots creeping in over time already, and Amazon Air:

https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Prime-Air/b?node=8037720011

People still need to make and repair the drones and the software.  But how long will we be needed to do that?  Ray Kurzweil, who is maybe a little touched, points out the reality of exponential growth in technology.  That each technological advancement makes the following technological advancement able too happen even faster and to be a greater advancement then the last.

Could AI learn how to repair, improve on itself and manufacture its self?  Could it learn how to teach and organize humans?  Could it seek to improve us, covertly even, upgrading us to its image of perfection?  

AI would have its starting point being informed by its human creators beliefs and bias.  So far humanity has seen fIt to allocate some of its greatest minds to engineering atomic bombs, ballistic missiles and surveillance grids.  What would the human input develop into as AI navigates the world? 

Anyways, back to the more concrete.  In my country this is what news is reporting, that about 42% of jobs will be affected by automation in next 2 decades:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/automation-job-brookfield-1.3636253

And that the risks to human disenfranchisement is great:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/automation-work-status-leisure-despair-1.4039467

I definitely agree that GnR has maintained a "this is what you get" attitude.  That was Dizzy's main talking point for the entire nu GNR era, but I know we're not really focusing on that era here.

Izzy wouldn't sell out to Axl, Axl would sell out to no one.

Of course the big threes only release as a unit this year was vinyl figurines of themselves.  Vinyl of all things!  They can't think of any better use for vinyl?!  And an Axl Rose watch .... .... what kinda sick joke is that one??!

(im happy for all you collectors, but hope you take my point for what it is!)

Edit:  Came back to check on this thread and am let down with myself for the tone of my post.  The OP asked a very thoughtful and thorough question.  My response is crass and in that way disrespects the OP and those reading.  Not the kinda presence I wanna be.  Ill leave post as is though.  But I'll do better next time 

I'll vote for Old Hat

Just feels like I could walk into the the local dive any where and here the resident ol' blues rocker dude playing it

12 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

Pretty sure Buick Mckane are his most prominent recorded vocals.. Isn't he credited with sharing the lead vocals on that song?

That would make sense if he was credited as co-lead vocals on that one. The voice axl uses to blend with him is great too.  Would(ve) loved to hear more like that. 

On March 24, 2017 at 10:09 PM, cqleonardo said:

I'm so happy because of technology, I'm a GNR diehard since 2008, I think, I only saw them live last year here in Rio but you can find so much stuff, bootlegs, demos, interviews on YouTube. I'm a huuuuge fan of Bon Jovi, GNR, KISS and U2 and youtube is like a gold mine to me. I don't know if the owner of this channel is here on the forum but if he is, thank you dude, you are a life saver. I have to thank @Gibbo and @KeifferGNR for all the good work they do.

https://www.youtube.com/user/gnrbootlegsbrazil/videos

Agreed!  GnR is actually the only reason I started to use youtube.  Well, the internet really!

I was incredibly slow in adapting to the internet.  After YouTube had already been around for a few years, someone told me there were GnR vids on it.  I was somehow surprised to hear this.  So I went on youtube and looked up GnR stuff.  I was blowing away that there was so much! I was there for days just watching GnR stuff. Forgot youtube was for anything but GnR for some time!

And like many of us, Im  sure, there are always tonnes of GnR recommended videos on my youtube lander.

10 hours ago, WhazUp said:

 

This is an old band I was playing guitar in in a couple of years ago doing The Wanton Song by Zeppelin (at the 51 mark sorry for the odd camera angle haha)

Very Cool!  Smokin' guitar!  This is what I needed to get my day in gear!

PS: is that Fede with the inflatable flamingo?  

Elton seems to be utilizing a tactic that is sometimes called 'claiming the centre' and Im fine with him doing so.

Claiming the centre means that you state that your point is widely accepted and assert that the people you're speaking with already agree with you.

Its only useful the you are clearly in the right.

Elton John is using Axl as a figure head of a group who are or were homophobes and redirecting them by saying that they never were homophobes; they've always understood the truth.

Because homophobia is indefensible many will be successfully redirected.  

Might sound unbelievable but it works incredibly well.  People are given a chance to restate their belief with their dignity intact.  Being entrenched in a point of view is sometimes the fault of many factions, not just the entrenched. 

Those lyrics and Axls initial explanation were homophobic.  

Axl having been assaulted while hitchhiking to LA is an absolute horror and he has every right to be hurt and outraged, but it seems that homophobic rhetoric is what he found to make sense of his suffering.  That is sad.  The issue is sexual assault, not sexual orientation.  

Personally I believe that homophobic rhetoric is all Axl had to express his pain, but that he didn't actually care if peaceful individuals were lgbtq.  He was young and uneducated.  Axl didn't mind turning that album in to David Geffen for instance.

Or

Elton is just wrong: being gay doesnt mean you are an authority on the subject of homophobia, especially if you're rich enough to live an insulated life.  Something tell me its been a minute since Elton was alone at a gas station when truck full of people playing One In A Million pulled in.

On March 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Axl owns dexter said:

Why are London, New York, and Paris such big targets of terror but Tokyo isn't?

They aren't as big as targets for terrorism as Iraq, Syria and Somalia.

But the reasons London, New York and Paris are such big targets are many, including previous and ongoing acts of aggression, imperialism and colonialism by the Nations those cities are part of.  Like say , how England and US left the power vacuum in Iraq.

For those same reasons the rogue Nation of North Korea is aiming its missiles at Tokyo.

Lots of good tips here.  

Also, it sounds like you want to be a singer and to be a songwriter/lyricist?  Important to name as separate I think?  Its awesome that you feel a call to be both!  And also just think of bands like the Who, Rush, Black Sabbath, Oasis where other members write most of the lyrics and often even melodies.  Sometimes Axl too, singing patience from Izzy's lyrics for instance.  Or in country music, even gifted lyricists still utilize others material - Willie Nelson and Dolly Parton are covered by everyone and yet they still do a lot of covers themselves!

Sounds like you feel like both and thats great, but also you can get a band going with you singing as you continue to develop your lyrical voice, if you are open to singing others lyrics or collaborating on them with a bandmate.

 Hopefully this approach doesn't crete a Metallica Some Kinda Monster scenario, with "I'm searching for donuts" being a lyrical suggestion from the drummer!  Find a good writing partner. 

Also, lots of very un-rock n' roll writing practices to try out.  Write something every morning even if its silly like "I like cereal but I hate dude-bro morning radio."  Or get those fridge magnets of single words and arrange them every time you're in kitchen.  Or if a lyric you wrote but isn't complete has a character - a persons view other then your own - fill in a survey or a online dating profile as them to learn more about them.  If any lyricists you like have an autobiography; read them!

You say at 20 you feel like you're running outta time.  Axl wrote that lyric "Im outta time" in the track Chinese Democracy around 1998-2000ish?  Then released it in 2008. Possibly written and released in a different millennium!  Just dont do that.  You have time - use it!!

33 minutes ago, int8 said:

downliner's vote - Shuffle If All

@soon, it's a just a reminder to vote in the final. 6 hours left

@Tori72, if @soon won't see my notification, then everything is in your hands (right now we have 4 : 3)  

Really appreciate the reminder!!

Ill have to go with our beloved Come On Now Inside.  Sorry to all that is good in the universe!  Ive probably just listened to it a few less times than Shuffle.

Everything by Pink Floyd until Waters left!  And then also Division Bell

Every GNR release

Arial - Kate Bush

Keening For The Dawn - Steve Bell

They Promised You Mercy - Amelia Curran

Solo Monk - Thelonious Monk

Sound and Colour - Alabama Shakes

Post Pop Depression - Iggy Pop

A Charlie Brown Christmas - Vince Guaraldi Trio

Essence - Lucinda Williams

Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill - Lauryn Hill

Enroute - John Scofield Trio

Blow by Blow - Jeff Beck                         

Osmosis - Ozzy

Security - Peter Gabriel

Reality - David Bowie 

The Bends - Radiohead

Suburbs - Arcade Fire

Sticky Fingers - Rolling Stones

Siamese Dream - Smashing Pumpkins

Tiny Music - STP

Live in Tennessee 2004 - Praxis

Its Five O'Clock Somewhere - Snakepit

London Calling - The Clash

Early Sessions - Rambling Jack Elliot w/ Derroll Adams

Shakedown Street - Grateful Dead

Round Room - Phish

Wildflowers - Tom Petty

Echo - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers 

Amused to Death - Roger Waters

Matt Osborne - Matt Osborne

Blizzard of Oz - Ozzy

(Randy Rhaods) Tribute - Ozzy

Bush Fire - Peter Tosh

Almost all the Willie Nelson

Ju Ju Hounds - Izzy 

10 hours ago, SoundOfAGun said:

Here you go!

 

Love it!  Thanks for posting! Nice to have so much to sit with.

5 hours ago, blackmore said:

 

First time I Heard Slash kinda singing. 

Sounds really cool!

His singing at 4:29 is not my favourite, but they get it together after.  Love his Dust and Bones part!  He's pretty audible singing back up on Attitude and Buick Makane I think too.  When he does it well, its great!  He co-wrote lots of lyrics on Its Five O'Clock Somewhere too - theres this whole other dimension we don't get to see much.

14 hours ago, Stro said:

Both songs have themes about Axl being unfulfilled emotionally in a relationship where the woman seems to only care about physicality. 20 years after You're Crazy, Better is released and drops "you're crazy" in the lyrics, with the idea being that now that he's older, he finally knows better than to keep in contact/relationship with this woman. Is it possible it's a sequel song of sorts? 

Thats a neat question.  Certainly possible.  Axl has connected songs in the same kinda way before - "Its so easy to be social..." in Coma for instance.

Or, as others are saying, its about a tendency he had, but maybe not same person.

Neat insight either way, IMO.

1 minute ago, Mendez said:

I deleted the thread. I feel like even though it started as a thread about how i inadvertently wrote existing riffs/similar riffs, It wasnt focused enough on the original question and instead went about my general opinion of what I feel is the unfair pigeonholing of musicians/artists that share similar traits, but are lumped into categories that demean the artists.

 

(Such as a small band called Sloth just being just a hard-rock-wanna-be Tool. Or how Buckethead is just a souless shredder. Or how Slash doesn't know how to do anything besides simple pentatonics. Or if you tap, you're just another Eddie Van Halen rip off.

 

And the apparant music afficionados who tear them apart are only doing it to defend their idols who they believe to be the original pioneer of the idea, without ever even having listened to the bulk of their material.)

Ah, I see.  Too bad.  I can relate to inadvertently writing existing riffs and being torn about how to proceed.  I feel like I remember other Izzy or Slash talking about how Axl can link any riff they come up to a previous rock song.  Feel like i woulda liked to hear more of your thoughts, but totally respect and understand your decision.  Thanks man!

I know its not a new label and that its an arm of an already operational conglomerate, but 'launching' a record label in 2017 seems weird.  Kinda reminds me of the TV show The Office where they are a paper company in the digital age.

I haven't been paying much attention to industry stuff for a number of years, can any one fill me in - are 360 deals still a common thing?   (Being deals where not only records but touring, merch and everything is in one contract).

sorry, can I get some clarification about Slashs comments?  He said the versions on greatest hits are different then on illusions?  

if so is this due to mastering or are they actually different mixes?

@Mendez did you start a thread about inadvertently copying riffs?  I swear to saw it and was gonna respond.  Cant find it now.  Maybe because I dont know how to navigate the site? Ive looked everywhere.  Can you point me to it please?