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He was trend chasing and sadly that is a very bad look for a guy who was once the world's biggest rock star.

That was the beginning of a long, dark period for the band.

I listen to him playing something like this and it just makes it all the more mind numbing that Axl can't get inspired enough to make music with him and actually release it to the public.

I've long thought if they just gave themselves 3 months in a studio and started from scratch they'd be amazed at what would come out of it as opposed to the convoluted process of re-recording everything a million times and trying to sooth Axl's ego with the CD leftovers to make him feel it wasn't the colossal waste of time it was (it's the same reason we have to put up with Frank and his sub par drumming).

Divorce is expensive, and the reunion is refilling Slash's coffers.

If he stops releasing music, that will change my opinion on him.

Until then I think he is  just making himself whole financially because where else can he earn that kind of money playing music he wrote?

If Axl came to him tomorrow and said let's release music the guy would lock himself in a room until he came out with a GNR album. I will only look at Slash differently if there ever comes a day that wouldn't be true.

They have released 1 album since 1993, and if it was up to Axl CD probably would still be sitting on a shelf somewhere.

That anyone in the GNR universe (be it fans, the band, management or whoever)  would dare so much as even say a word about those who are frustrated that their favorite band has managed to release only 1 album in 27 years  (you read that right......27 years) is beyond comprehension.

We are coming up on 30 years now since we've gotten any new original material with Axl/Slash/Duff on it, but some how Axl/TB don't seem to get why there is the hostility there is about the refusal of the band to release music from a line-up that is the only reason they are a financially viable business at this point.

This won't be able to continue on forever as Slash will move on at some  point after he is done refilling the coffers post divorce.

Frankly I pity Axl at this point as the 1991 version of himself would think the 2020 version is the world's biggest loser for what he has allowed himself to become considering what he once stood for.

There is a special place in hell reserved for TB and what they have  done to this man and his career.

1 hour ago, Sydney Fan said:

I hate to say this but after watching both tokyo 92 dvds the other day im kind of agreeing with your statement. I just wonder if hes bored with the NITL setlist, of there is something about the whole NITL he hates.

After seeing SKMC early 2019 the chemistry that slash has wiyh those band members is different to how i see slash on stage with GNR. I just  think theres something about the whole NITL that he seems emotionally removed from.

SMKC is his passion project, GNR pads his bank account and got him flush again with cash after his divorce.

He probably hears the same  crap we  do at the shows knowing how much better they could sound, but if Axl is going to go through the motions why shouldn't he.

He plays to a fraction of the people at his own gigs, but his energy level and and overall playing is usually better (not to mention he always looks happier).

I think when the re-union started he probably deep down was hoping to make some music with Axl again, but the bigger a pipe dream  that begins to look like  the bigger the chance  that the uneasy peace right now breaks.

1 hour ago, dario27 said:

I like it a lot...

i don't understand how everybody seems to think if Slash collaborates with any artist it must have a Novermber Rain or Sweet Child O' Mine solo.... why? i'm glad he's still recording releasing and playing with high quality, unlike most of his contemporary musicians...

Even Zakk's been releashing shit for a while...

If you listen to the solo you can here it  saying the chorus. It was never intended to be a masturbatory effort on Slash's part (I love when he is allowed to just wail away but this wasn't the place.

Song will likely be edited down to 4 minutes for radio, so we weren't going to get NR II.

I agree whole heartedly with your  point about people feeling he mails it in if there isn't a 2 minute epic solo when he is working on someone else's song with likely parameters.

This was all about  being tasteful, emotive and fitting into the song.

Vocals aside, Slash's solo band sounds orders of magnitude better musically on the GNR songs than GNR does.

Someone should strap Axl in a chair and make him watch Slash's band play the Appetite stuff/Civil War/YCBM and such and then make him watch the product they are putting out and make him explain why he is OK with an inferior sounding musical product.

3 hours ago, Dean said:

I don't know how everyone else would feel, but I would be sickened for a Guns N' Roses album to be released with DJ Ashba's guitar parts replacing Robin Finck's.

This wouldn't even register on the outrage meter.

When looked at in the context that an entire album of people purporting to call themselves Guns N' Roses was released without so much as one note from Slash on it (a borderline crime against music humanity) worrying about DJ  replacing Robin seems  beyond trivial.

Most of us knew this and said so at the time, but with the further we are removed from them getting back together initially it just puts into an even bigger picture what a true farce that that entire new GNR experience was.

Axl still lives that shame every day, and  he thinks that forcing Frank/Fortus to be in the reunion line-up some how justifies that that 20 year period was anything but the monumental waste and embarrassment it was.

I think part of what is holding back making new music with Slash and actually releasing it is that it will be overwhelmingly be positively received, and actually sound like  a GNR  record again.

This will naturally dredge up the memories of how ridiculous it was for him to try and pass off that Slashless band as GNR.

Billboard had an article last year that  said the post reunion take per show was an extra $3 million a show  average over what Axl was doing just because the cat in the hat was back delighting GNR  crowds again.

That has  to eat him alive considering he had thoroughly convinced himself (and tried to convince the public) that he alone was GNR. The public voted with their wallets differently.

Slash coming back may have padded Axl's bank account, but it undoubtedly killed his confidence and pride to have the public basically validate his biggest insecurity that no matter how hard he tried it really was all about Slash all along.

He was resentful the new line-up never got out from under Slash's shadow, and releasing a new album with Slash that would undoubtedly rock will only remind him daily that he  quite literally wasted 1/3 of his life essentially being the old man yelling at clouds during that dark Slashless period in GNR's history.

On 11/22/2019 at 12:20 PM, GNRfanMILO said:

On a per-show basis, the band leveled up from an average gross of $617,000 on the 2012-14 Appetite for Democracy Tour to $3.7 million each night on the Not in This Lifetime… Tour.

Deep down that mind blowing statistic has to just kill Axl, who deluded himself into truly believing he alone was GNR at one point.

Slash should drive a harder bargain next time around considering his presence essentially represents a $3 million dollar difference in the per show take.

He just tears it a new asshole in that outro for the One you loved is gone.

Those last 2-3 minutes of the outro with him wailing away is why I love him.

God do we need him playing on some new Guns material. No one does that better than him.

I swear I keep hearing parts of Don't Cry in the Great Pretender.

Just as he's about to get into the solo it's sounds like the same lead in.

Does anyone else hear it  or is just me?

If you listen closely to The Great Pretender there are times where it feels like it's about to morph into Don't Cry, particularly in the build-up to his solo.

Love everything about this song. His riff just kicks all kinds of righteous ass.

There has been some luke-warm reviews from people on here, but for the most part this is the freshest I feel like Slash has sounded in a while. Many of these songs have a great energy too them, and the album overall just feels kind of fun.

I can't put my finger on what exactly or where, but overall I think Frank's presence has helped Slash's sound on this album compared to when he was essentially doing everything in the studio guitar wise last album.

Like any Slash album there are still moments when he cuts into something or hits a note a certain way (like only Slash can do) that still give me that chill where the hairs on your arm stand up. The people who think he's lost it or is just recycling everything at this point are really missing out.

He still has that Slash sound people expect, but does it in a way that doesn't sound like 80's cock rock as you might expect from a guy in his 50's still playing rock n roll.

If Axl ever got interested in making music again there is still a great Guns record waiting inside Slash's guitar, that much is certain.

Just now, Nicklord said:

 

 

The Great Pretender is probably the most GnR sounding song on there. It has really amazing riff. It doesn't really have a chorus, it's just a bit louder verse that builds up to a riff the first time and to a solo the second time. Probably my favorite so far

Good to hear on the great pretender, because the reviews were hyping that as a standout song.

Any gems on there to anyone who has heard the whole thing?

If Slash made $45 million that means Axl probably made like $60.

Axl making that kind of money means Team Brazil is rolling in cash.

Are we ever going to get a single or anything?

This album is turning into the musical version of if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound.

His playing will be much more inspired when he is touring his solo stuff.

Aside from the money playing with GNR has to be soul crushing for him. They make no new music, and he is stuck with a rhythm guitarist and drummer that frankly are a downgrade on the GNR stuff compared to what he plays with in his solo outfit.

GNR songs always seem to sound much more alive and dynamic when played by anyone other than GNR.

They should seriously get rid of Melissa and her effects and Dizzy unless needed on a piano song.

All of that crap adds nothing to the songs, which is why they always sound better without it.

5 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Slash isn't paying Perla only as an ex-wife, but also as a business partner.

He apparently thought it was a good idea at the time to make her his business partner, and maybe she was really helpful. Regardless of whether it was it was a bad idea in retrospect, it was a choice he made and now he has to compensate her.

When you're married in the people's Republic of California you are stuck with your wife as a business partner whether you like it or not.