Setlists......Again

[Used To Love Me]

It will be interesting to see which songs become staples of the live set over time.

So far Better, SOD, Madagascar have been played a lot. Since the record came out ITW, CD, TIL have been mainstays.

Yeah, it will definitely be interesting to see. I think it will be unique since most songs from other albums which have become keepers did so by being popular on the radio and videos... that can't be the case with anything on CD, so, other than Better and CD itself it's really just going to go by what the band enjoys playing and the reception from live crowds.

I was agreeing but then I thought of Easy, Brownstone, Rocket Queen, Nightrain, Out ta get Me which didn't have videos (Easy had that banned bondage vid). The fans havent really been guided through what song is most important, maybe cos they're all great? But I know what you mean, hits seem more subliminal these days.

I guess in this era a single or hit is more loosely defined. ChiDem was a hit on download charts? ITW was on Body of Lies. Shackler's was/is popular on Rockband. Better was going to be a video. To me SOD seems like a classic GNR video in the waiting.

Maybe they are seeing what goes down well live? TIL seems to be getting good reaction. Sorry obviously wasn't picked out as a single but seems pretty popular.

What if they did epic vids for TWAT and Cacther and then suddenly everybody would demand them live. In the meantime I guess we'll have to think for ourselves!

See, I think the AFD songs mostly became popular on their own before they ever made the album. Those were the songs they tended to play live all the time, with the LLAS stuff as well as KOHD and a few others. I think they just became staples of a GNR show that way and have been since.

[Naupis]

gnr-dave,

Check out the El Salvadorian setlist. Then talk.

K thx bye.

They played 19 songs with 6 new ones. That kind of reinforces Daves point as they were playing 5-6 new ones every night 4 years ago. What is that supposed to prove?

[droezle]

Axl should only be playing two or three old songs tops at this point. He has had decades to top his original GNR material. You hate the old band so much, stop playing the old material calling the band Guns N' Roses. It isn't because he is the last man standing, it is because the GNR moniker and makes more money.

And how many people will attend a G N' R show when he does that? Most of the people who visit a G N' R show only want to hear the old songs.

[gnr-dave]

gnr-dave,

Check out the El Salvadorian setlist. Then talk.

K thx bye.

They played 19 songs with 6 new ones. That kind of reinforces Daves point as they were playing 5-6 new ones every night 4 years ago. What is that supposed to prove?

Yeah and 3 of those songs are CD, SOD, and madagascar three songs they were playing back in 2000-02, and the other is better which they have been playing since 2006. So 4 of the 6 so called new songs they were playing before CD even came out. Its the 2002 and 2006 set all over again with two additions. Now if they were playing 5-6 real new songs that did not include CD, SOD or madagascar then that would be a different story.

But if you have seen Gnr in 2000-2007 you have pretty much seen the same set list save a couple of songs.

I really think he has to do with his voice not being able to handle the songs. Just listen to that in ear mix from Japan, you can really hear him struggle on the new songs they stopped playing.

Even something like TIL he sounds really bad.

[GNRED]

gnr-dave,

Check out the El Salvadorian setlist. Then talk.

K thx bye.

They played 19 songs with 6 new ones. That kind of reinforces Daves point as they were playing 5-6 new ones every night 4 years ago. What is that supposed to prove?

Yeah and 3 of those songs are CD, SOD, and madagascar three songs they were playing back in 2000-02, and the other is better which they have been playing since 2006. So 4 of the 6 so called new songs they were playing before CD even came out. Its the 2002 and 2006 set all over again with two additions. Now if they were playing 5-6 real new songs that did not include CD, SOD or madagascar then that would be a different story.

But if you have seen Gnr in 2000-2007 you have pretty much seen the same set list save a couple of songs.

I really think he has to do with his voice not being able to handle the songs. Just listen to that in ear mix from Japan, you can really hear him struggle on the new songs they stopped playing.

Even something like TIL he sounds really bad.

No, TIL sounds very good live, as does Sorry, I think they play what suits them that particular night, Axl's voice is strong. If you buy a ticket that does not give you the right to dictate a setlist for the gig, and certainly you can't

on a show you don't even attend. I think you are bitter and Jaded, and should find a band you really like. Why stay just to complain? This all stems back to your words from Beta because you were spreading lies, so it is your own fault.

[ChineseDemocracy2004]

At the moment I think the band have their set of CD songs. Imo I don't think There Was A Time, Scraped, Riad and Prostitute will get an outing anytime soon but I don't know. Maybe Sorry, Madagascar, Shacklers and If The World may alternate throughout the remaining shows. Whatever they play from Chinese Democracy is fine with me.

[gnr-dave]

gnr-dave,

Check out the El Salvadorian setlist. Then talk.

K thx bye.

They played 19 songs with 6 new ones. That kind of reinforces Daves point as they were playing 5-6 new ones every night 4 years ago. What is that supposed to prove?

Yeah and 3 of those songs are CD, SOD, and madagascar three songs they were playing back in 2000-02, and the other is better which they have been playing since 2006. So 4 of the 6 so called new songs they were playing before CD even came out. Its the 2002 and 2006 set all over again with two additions. Now if they were playing 5-6 real new songs that did not include CD, SOD or madagascar then that would be a different story.

But if you have seen Gnr in 2000-2007 you have pretty much seen the same set list save a couple of songs.

I really think he has to do with his voice not being able to handle the songs. Just listen to that in ear mix from Japan, you can really hear him struggle on the new songs they stopped playing.

Even something like TIL he sounds really bad.

No, TIL sounds very good live, as does Sorry, I think they play what suits them that particular night, Axl's voice is strong. If you buy a ticket that does not give you the right to dictate a setlist for the gig, and certainly you can't

on a show you don't even attend. I think you are bitter and Jaded, and should find a band you really like. Why stay just to complain? This all stems back to your words from Beta because you were spreading lies, so it is your own fault.

Axls voice is gone, its the sad truth, that is why he uses backing tracks to help out his voice. Just listen to his in ear mix, you can hear how his voice is shot. And YES fans have the right to dictate the set list.

It does not mean the band has to listen but we have every right to talk about what we like or do not like about the set list, that is why its called a discussion forum.

Why are you going to understand this simple concept. And again I am a much bigger gnr fan than you will ever be.

And I already shot down the beta bullshit, so that is getting really old. I already backed up I was right and she was full of shit.

That happened how many years ago? Its time to move on. You would not even around for the Beta incident, so you dont know what you are even talking about. Stop talking out of your ass.

And Jarmos site is a joke. Do you know how many long time die hard fans have been banned from his site? Its in the hundreds. You would fit right in over there, you all kiss Axls ass not matter what.

Gnr could play a 10 song set list and you would not have a problem with that. Learn to think for yourself and not just regurgitate what others say.

Edited April 12, 2010 by gnr-dave

[dimitrisaxl]

gnr-dave take a rest from this topic for god's shake!

[gnr-dave]

gnr-dave take a rest from this topic for god's shake!

Why would I do that, ,you should tell that to the others who don't want to discuss the set list topic and instead want to bring other BS into the thread.

[John Bonham]

Axls voice is gone, its the sad truth, that is why he uses backing tracks to help out his voice. Just listen to his in ear mix, you can hear how his voice is shot. And YES fans have the right to dictate the set list.

It does not mean the band has to listen but we have every right to talk about what we like or do not like about the set list, that is why its called a discussion forum.

Why are you going to understand this simple concept. And again I am a much bigger gnr fan than you will ever be.

If you listen to this clip of "Catcher" from Tokyo you can clearly hear the backing track - it's very loud in the mix.

[GNRED]

gnr-dave,

Check out the El Salvadorian setlist. Then talk.

K thx bye.

They played 19 songs with 6 new ones. That kind of reinforces Daves point as they were playing 5-6 new ones every night 4 years ago. What is that supposed to prove?

Yeah and 3 of those songs are CD, SOD, and madagascar three songs they were playing back in 2000-02, and the other is better which they have been playing since 2006. So 4 of the 6 so called new songs they were playing before CD even came out. Its the 2002 and 2006 set all over again with two additions. Now if they were playing 5-6 real new songs that did not include CD, SOD or madagascar then that would be a different story.

But if you have seen Gnr in 2000-2007 you have pretty much seen the same set list save a couple of songs.

I really think he has to do with his voice not being able to handle the songs. Just listen to that in ear mix from Japan, you can really hear him struggle on the new songs they stopped playing.

Even something like TIL he sounds really bad.

No, TIL sounds very good live, as does Sorry, I think they play what suits them that particular night, Axl's voice is strong. If you buy a ticket that does not give you the right to dictate a setlist for the gig, and certainly you can't

on a show you don't even attend. I think you are bitter and Jaded, and should find a band you really like. Why stay just to complain? This all stems back to your words from Beta because you were spreading lies, so it is your own fault.

Axls voice is gone, its the sad truth, that is why he uses backing tracks to help out his voice. Just listen to his in ear mix, you can hear how his voice is shot. And YES fans have the right to dictate the set list.

It does not mean the band has to listen but we have every right to talk about what we like or do not like about the set list, that is why its called a discussion forum.

Why are you going to understand this simple concept. And again I am a much bigger gnr fan than you will ever be.

And I already shot down the beta bullshit, so that is getting really old. I already backed up I was right and she was full of shit.

That happened how many years ago? Its time to move on. You would not even around for the Beta incident, so you dont know what you are even talking about. Stop talking out of your ass.

And Jarmos site is a joke. Do you know how many long time die hard fans have been banned from his site? Its in the hundreds. You would fit right in over there, you all kiss Axls ass not matter what.

Gnr could play a 10 song set list and you would not have a problem with that. Learn to think for yourself and not just regurgitate what others say.

No, you are wrong about several things, Axl's voice is strong,I have been to concerts this year. Beta is not full of shit; she is a very special person and you should not say such things. There is nothing wrong with the setlist, critisise after you attend a concert, and I have been a GNR fan since I was 17, the only joke here is you pretending to be a fan while venting your misplaced frustration, go find a band you like, you sound crazy.

[eye2eye]

Axl voice is shot hahaha good joke mate

that scream at the start of the Jungle is insane( I know it is from 2006), his voice in Rose Bar videos is far from being shot. And listen to ear mix of Nice Boys from Asia. Man sounds better than in years , his voice was shot but back in 2001-2002

[Janabis]

There is nothing wrong with the setlist, critisise after you attend a concert

Obviously the people who criticize the setlists are the ones who go to the most concerts. That's why they'd like to see some surprises.

[GNRED]

There is nothing wrong with the setlist, critisise after you attend a concert

Obviously the people who criticize the setlists are the ones who go to the most concerts. That's why they'd like to see some surprises.

No, is not true the ones who complain the most do not go to many if any concerts and they judge from Utube videos, If they would actually go to a concert they would not be disappointed and find fault, saw GNR in 91 several times and in concurrent years as the lineup changed, this is a great lineup and they put on an awesome show. That is a fact. :nod:

[bacardimayne]

This cupcake thread is still up? We need madison back in a form where she can only lock/move threads.

[BMo13]

Axls voice is gone, its the sad truth, that is why he uses backing tracks to help out his voice. Just listen to his in ear mix, you can hear how his voice is shot. And YES fans have the right to dictate the set list.

It does not mean the band has to listen but we have every right to talk about what we like or do not like about the set list, that is why its called a discussion forum.

Why are you going to understand this simple concept. And again I am a much bigger gnr fan than you will ever be.

If you listen to this clip of "Catcher" from Tokyo you can clearly hear the backing track - it's very loud in the mix.

Isn't that cheating?

[jellyzero]

This cupcake thread is still up? We need madison back in a form where she can only lock/move threads.

Why is this a cupcake thread? I am kind of tired of good discussions being locked. I think this one should be open until the whole tour is over, if not a new thread about the same thing will pop up every few weeks. I realize some of you just want to get a post in or put your 2 cents in on everything but if a thread doesn't appeal to you, don't click on it. It's so easy.

[RocketKing99]

Axls voice is gone, its the sad truth, that is why he uses backing tracks to help out his voice. Just listen to his in ear mix, you can hear how his voice is shot. And YES fans have the right to dictate the set list.

It does not mean the band has to listen but we have every right to talk about what we like or do not like about the set list, that is why its called a discussion forum.

Why are you going to understand this simple concept. And again I am a much bigger gnr fan than you will ever be.

If you listen to this clip of "Catcher" from Tokyo you can clearly hear the backing track - it's very loud in the mix.

Isn't that cheating?

For fucks sake... how does it change the parts that Axl sings? He does it pretty well.

How about the fucking riffs that Slash stole for the Slash album? Slashites never talked about that. Go fucking cupcake somewhere else.

gnr-dave,

Check out the El Salvadorian setlist. Then talk.

K thx bye.

They played 19 songs with 6 new ones. That kind of reinforces Daves point as they were playing 5-6 new ones every night 4 years ago. What is that supposed to prove?

Yeah and 3 of those songs are CD, SOD, and madagascar three songs they were playing back in 2000-02, and the other is better which they have been playing since 2006. So 4 of the 6 so called new songs they were playing before CD even came out. Its the 2002 and 2006 set all over again with two additions. Now if they were playing 5-6 real new songs that did not include CD, SOD or madagascar then that would be a different story.

But if you have seen Gnr in 2000-2007 you have pretty much seen the same set list save a couple of songs.

I really think he has to do with his voice not being able to handle the songs. Just listen to that in ear mix from Japan, you can really hear him struggle on the new songs they stopped playing.

Even something like TIL he sounds really bad.

No, TIL sounds very good live, as does Sorry, I think they play what suits them that particular night, Axl's voice is strong. If you buy a ticket that does not give you the right to dictate a setlist for the gig, and certainly you can't

on a show you don't even attend. I think you are bitter and Jaded, and should find a band you really like. Why stay just to complain? This all stems back to your words from Beta because you were spreading lies, so it is your own fault.

Axls voice is gone, its the sad truth, that is why he uses backing tracks to help out his voice. Just listen to his in ear mix, you can hear how his voice is shot. And YES fans have the right to dictate the set list.

It does not mean the band has to listen but we have every right to talk about what we like or do not like about the set list, that is why its called a discussion forum.

Why are you going to understand this simple concept. And again I am a much bigger gnr fan than you will ever be.

And I already shot down the beta bullshit, so that is getting really old. I already backed up I was right and she was full of shit.

That happened how many years ago? Its time to move on. You would not even around for the Beta incident, so you dont know what you are even talking about. Stop talking out of your ass.

And Jarmos site is a joke. Do you know how many long time die hard fans have been banned from his site? Its in the hundreds. You would fit right in over there, you all kiss Axls ass not matter what.

Gnr could play a 10 song set list and you would not have a problem with that. Learn to think for yourself and not just regurgitate what others say.

You're an idiot. Have you even been to a show this tour? Stop making such fuckhead comments... "Axl's voice is gone"... for fucks sake, go listen to TIL in Edmonton or any fucking bootleg from Canada.

I've been to two shows this tour and Axl is in better shape than '93.

Stupid cupcake.

[BMo13]

You gotta love how Nut$wingers are so open to discussion.......

[RocketKing99]

You gotta love how Nut$wingers are so open to discussion.......

Nah, you're trolling, go back to the $ta$h section.

[BMo13]

You gotta love how Nut$wingers are so open to discussion.......

Nah, you're trolling, go back to the $ta$h section.

Like I was saying....a nut$winger ordering me out of this discussion when all I did was ask a question. It's sad.

[RocketKing99]

You gotta love how Nut$wingers are so open to discussion.......

Nah, you're trolling, go back to the $ta$h section.

Like I was saying....a nut$winger ordering me out of this discussion when all I did was ask a question. It's sad.

Aww.. why so sad?

Look at how open to discussion are the the nut$wingers: http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=162098

Edited April 12, 2010 by RocketKing99

[BMo13]

You gotta love how Nut$wingers are so open to discussion.......

Nah, you're trolling, go back to the $ta$h section.

Like I was saying....a nut$winger ordering me out of this discussion when all I did was ask a question. It's sad.

Aww.. why so sad?

Look at how open to discussion are the the nut$wingers: http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=162098

Haha, you just linked a thread where YOU are instigating discussion of plagiarism. What a loser.

[RocketKing99]

You gotta love how Nut$wingers are so open to discussion.......

Nah, you're trolling, go back to the $ta$h section.

Like I was saying....a nut$winger ordering me out of this discussion when all I did was ask a question. It's sad.

Aww.. why so sad?

Look at how open to discussion are the the nut$wingers: http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=162098

Haha, you just linked a thread where YOU are instigating discussion of plagiarism. What a loser.

And YOU are instigating discussion in this thread with "Isn't that cheating?" questions. You loser.

[BMo13]

You gotta love how Nut$wingers are so open to discussion.......

Nah, you're trolling, go back to the $ta$h section.

Like I was saying....a nut$winger ordering me out of this discussion when all I did was ask a question. It's sad.

Aww.. why so sad?

Look at how open to discussion are the the nut$wingers: http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=162098

Haha, you just linked a thread where YOU are instigating discussion of plagiarism. What a loser.

And YOU are instigating discussion in this thread with "Isn't that cheating?" questions. You loser.

Alright, listen up I AM SAM. I asked one question. You made several posts making statements. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION?