Marc Canter: "Axl and Slash would have to go to a marriage counselor"

[Doppeldab]

Guns N´ Roses is near to reach to Spain to do four shows, and the spanish web "Genetika Rock" has published an interview with Marc Canter. There are some interesting things... It´s first in spanish and also in english. Here is the link:

http://genetikarockradio.com/entrevistamarccanter/

Enjoy it!!

Edited September 21, 2010 by Doppeldab

[dalsh327]

They've been working on a documentary about the restaurant.

[Granny]

Nice read. I like his insights about the break-up reasons. Might be the most objective view on the topic we can get in the end.

[Doppeldab]

Nice read. I like his insights about the break-up reasons. Might be the most objective view on the topic we can get in the end.

I´m agree. I think Marc Canter knows how are Axl and Slash, he was a part of Guns in the 80´s and still have the friendship of both. So his opinions are always interesting, and maybe more objective than others...

[Fun n' Games]

Nice read. I like his insights about the break-up reasons. Might be the most objective view on the topic we can get in the end.

I´m agree. I think Marc Canter knows how are Axl and Slash, he was a part of Guns in the 80´s and still have the friendship of both. So his opinions are always interesting, and maybe more objective than others...

Plus, I see him online here all the time.

Hi Marc!

[GN'R Forever]

"Axl has many more problems with Slash than Slash has with Axl."

It'd be interesting to know the extent of these problems...that said, I'd love to see them perform as I'm too young to have seen them in their prime.

[T.W.A.T.]

Can someone interpret?

[GN'R Forever]

Can someone interpret?

Just go to the bottom half of the page.

[recklessroad]

I don't even know when that happened. I don't remember if Axl ever told me anything about it and Slash never said anything about it until I saw it in his book. Slash felt that if he didn't sign it, that Axl wouldn't go on stage. That doesn't mean that Axl made that threat Slash and Duff just assumed that Axl wouldn't go on stage or record again if they didn't sign. So Axl didn't blackmail them. Also Slash and Duff may have not have had the best advice by their management regarding signing the name over, but if they didn't sign the name over the band would have broken up anyways in 1995/1996 when they didn't agree on who was going to be replacing Izzy and what songs they would record. No one would have the name GUN N' ROSES. If that was the case Axl would have had a lot more music out by now but, under a different name, but probably with the same guys that worked on Chinese Democracy and that record would have been out in 1998/1999 with new music from Axl every few years. There was a lot Axl had to deal with to keep GUNS N ' ROSES going when Slash and Duff left and it took many years to deal with. Plus some law suits. Slash would have done the same thing as he did anyways with out Axl, 2 Snakepit records 2 VR records and 1 solo record and still there would be no reunion. So who is lying? Maybe no one, maybe just a bunch of miscommunication and why does it matter anyway? They wanted different things so going their own way was the only way they could get what they wanted. It was sad for me to see that split but thats life, shit happens and we lick our wounds and move on.

[DownUnderScott]

Well said Marc. There's just no changing the past so why worry about it. There is only the present to enjoy - GnR are touring and extremely active - and the future to look forward to...

[Jackie Moon]

awesome post

[inthisriver]

awesome post

I don't see it.

[FuddMckagan]

I don't even know when that happened. I don't remember if Axl ever told me anything about it and Slash never said anything about it until I saw it in his book. Slash felt that if he didn't sign it, that Axl wouldn't go on stage. That doesn't mean that Axl made that threat Slash and Duff just assumed that Axl wouldn't go on stage or record again if they didn't sign. So Axl didn't blackmail them. Also Slash and Duff may have not have had the best advice by their management regarding signing the name over, but if they didn't sign the name over the band would have broken up anyways in 1995/1996 when they didn't agree on who was going to be replacing Izzy and what songs they would record. No one would have the name GUN N' ROSES. If that was the case Axl would have had a lot more music out by now but, under a different name, but probably with the same guys that worked on Chinese Democracy and that record would have been out in 1998/1999 with new music from Axl every few years. There was a lot Axl had to deal with to keep GUNS N ' ROSES going when Slash and Duff left and it took many years to deal with. Plus some law suits. Slash would have done the same thing as he did anyways with out Axl, 2 Snakepit records 2 VR records and 1 solo record and still there would be no reunion. So who is lying? Maybe no one, maybe just a bunch of miscommunication and why does it matter anyway? They wanted different things so going their own way was the only way they could get what they wanted. It was sad for me to see that split but thats life, shit happens and we lick our wounds and move on.

Nice post.

[mendosa]

always happy to read you Marc

sincerly,

your commander in chief

[Fun n' Games]

I don't even know when that happened. I don't remember if Axl ever told me anything about it and Slash never said anything about it until I saw it in his book. Slash felt that if he didn't sign it, that Axl wouldn't go on stage. That doesn't mean that Axl made that threat Slash and Duff just assumed that Axl wouldn't go on stage or record again if they didn't sign. So Axl didn't blackmail them. Also Slash and Duff may have not have had the best advice by their management regarding signing the name over, but if they didn't sign the name over the band would have broken up anyways in 1995/1996 when they didn't agree on who was going to be replacing Izzy and what songs they would record. No one would have the name GUN N' ROSES. If that was the case Axl would have had a lot more music out by now but, under a different name, but probably with the same guys that worked on Chinese Democracy and that record would have been out in 1998/1999 with new music from Axl every few years. There was a lot Axl had to deal with to keep GUNS N ' ROSES going when Slash and Duff left and it took many years to deal with. Plus some law suits. Slash would have done the same thing as he did anyways with out Axl, 2 Snakepit records 2 VR records and 1 solo record and still there would be no reunion. So who is lying? Maybe no one, maybe just a bunch of miscommunication and why does it matter anyway? They wanted different things so going their own way was the only way they could get what they wanted. It was sad for me to see that split but thats life, shit happens and we lick our wounds and move on.

EXTREMELY interesting and insightful post!

But I have to add: If Slash and Duff hadn't signed the name away, with Axl being the only original member left in the old band, wouldn't the two of them own the rights of the name (as they are 2 members)? Imagine if Velvet Revolver went by the name of Guns n' Roses today, and the band called GnR today would go by a completely different name.

What would have gone differently with Slash's and Duff's band then?

(Not that it would make a huge difference, I can see that..)

Edited September 22, 2010 by Fun n' Games

[tange]

I don't even know when that happened. I don't remember if Axl ever told me anything about it and Slash never said anything about it until I saw it in his book. Slash felt that if he didn't sign it, that Axl wouldn't go on stage. That doesn't mean that Axl made that threat Slash and Duff just assumed that Axl wouldn't go on stage or record again if they didn't sign. So Axl didn't blackmail them. Also Slash and Duff may have not have had the best advice by their management regarding signing the name over, but if they didn't sign the name over the band would have broken up anyways in 1995/1996 when they didn't agree on who was going to be replacing Izzy and what songs they would record. No one would have the name GUN N' ROSES. If that was the case Axl would have had a lot more music out by now but, under a different name, but probably with the same guys that worked on Chinese Democracy and that record would have been out in 1998/1999 with new music from Axl every few years. There was a lot Axl had to deal with to keep GUNS N ' ROSES going when Slash and Duff left and it took many years to deal with. Plus some law suits. Slash would have done the same thing as he did anyways with out Axl, 2 Snakepit records 2 VR records and 1 solo record and still there would be no reunion. So who is lying? Maybe no one, maybe just a bunch of miscommunication and why does it matter anyway? They wanted different things so going their own way was the only way they could get what they wanted. It was sad for me to see that split but thats life, shit happens and we lick our wounds and move on.

Marc,

First thanks for coming on here and giving us your insights. I have a question.

You comment that Axl would have more music out if he didn't use the GNR name. Why is that?

[Fun n' Games]

I don't even know when that happened. I don't remember if Axl ever told me anything about it and Slash never said anything about it until I saw it in his book. Slash felt that if he didn't sign it, that Axl wouldn't go on stage. That doesn't mean that Axl made that threat Slash and Duff just assumed that Axl wouldn't go on stage or record again if they didn't sign. So Axl didn't blackmail them. Also Slash and Duff may have not have had the best advice by their management regarding signing the name over, but if they didn't sign the name over the band would have broken up anyways in 1995/1996 when they didn't agree on who was going to be replacing Izzy and what songs they would record. No one would have the name GUN N' ROSES. If that was the case Axl would have had a lot more music out by now but, under a different name, but probably with the same guys that worked on Chinese Democracy and that record would have been out in 1998/1999 with new music from Axl every few years. There was a lot Axl had to deal with to keep GUNS N ' ROSES going when Slash and Duff left and it took many years to deal with. Plus some law suits. Slash would have done the same thing as he did anyways with out Axl, 2 Snakepit records 2 VR records and 1 solo record and still there would be no reunion. So who is lying? Maybe no one, maybe just a bunch of miscommunication and why does it matter anyway? They wanted different things so going their own way was the only way they could get what they wanted. It was sad for me to see that split but thats life, shit happens and we lick our wounds and move on.

Marc,

First thanks for coming on here and giving us your insights. I have a question.

You comment that Axl would have more music out if he didn't use the GNR name. Why is that?

Because he wouldn't have had to spend so much time and energy on keeping the and dealing with the name Guns n Roses and on some law suits.

[Doppeldab]

Like Axl´s T-shirt said in the 80´s, "Shit Happens"... The original members of GNR broke up and we can´t change it. But now we have a great band too, touring the world, whith Axl full of energy. GNR has reinvented itself, and I like the result...

[Vincent Vega]

I don't even know when that happened. I don't remember if Axl ever told me anything about it and Slash never said anything about it until I saw it in his book. Slash felt that if he didn't sign it, that Axl wouldn't go on stage. That doesn't mean that Axl made that threat Slash and Duff just assumed that Axl wouldn't go on stage or record again if they didn't sign. So Axl didn't blackmail them. Also Slash and Duff may have not have had the best advice by their management regarding signing the name over, but if they didn't sign the name over the band would have broken up anyways in 1995/1996 when they didn't agree on who was going to be replacing Izzy and what songs they would record. No one would have the name GUN N' ROSES. If that was the case Axl would have had a lot more music out by now but, under a different name, but probably with the same guys that worked on Chinese Democracy and that record would have been out in 1998/1999 with new music from Axl every few years. There was a lot Axl had to deal with to keep GUNS N ' ROSES going when Slash and Duff left and it took many years to deal with. Plus some law suits. Slash would have done the same thing as he did anyways with out Axl, 2 Snakepit records 2 VR records and 1 solo record and still there would be no reunion. So who is lying? Maybe no one, maybe just a bunch of miscommunication and why does it matter anyway? They wanted different things so going their own way was the only way they could get what they wanted. It was sad for me to see that split but thats life, shit happens and we lick our wounds and move on.

A question Marc:

Do you know if Axl and Slash recorded any songs between '94 and '96? Like anything original? Even if it was just instrumental stuff.....

If so I hope we hear it someday.

Edited September 23, 2010 by MetalForever

[tange]

I don't even know when that happened. I don't remember if Axl ever told me anything about it and Slash never said anything about it until I saw it in his book. Slash felt that if he didn't sign it, that Axl wouldn't go on stage. That doesn't mean that Axl made that threat Slash and Duff just assumed that Axl wouldn't go on stage or record again if they didn't sign. So Axl didn't blackmail them. Also Slash and Duff may have not have had the best advice by their management regarding signing the name over, but if they didn't sign the name over the band would have broken up anyways in 1995/1996 when they didn't agree on who was going to be replacing Izzy and what songs they would record. No one would have the name GUN N' ROSES. If that was the case Axl would have had a lot more music out by now but, under a different name, but probably with the same guys that worked on Chinese Democracy and that record would have been out in 1998/1999 with new music from Axl every few years. There was a lot Axl had to deal with to keep GUNS N ' ROSES going when Slash and Duff left and it took many years to deal with. Plus some law suits. Slash would have done the same thing as he did anyways with out Axl, 2 Snakepit records 2 VR records and 1 solo record and still there would be no reunion. So who is lying? Maybe no one, maybe just a bunch of miscommunication and why does it matter anyway? They wanted different things so going their own way was the only way they could get what they wanted. It was sad for me to see that split but thats life, shit happens and we lick our wounds and move on.

Marc,

First thanks for coming on here and giving us your insights. I have a question.

You comment that Axl would have more music out if he didn't use the GNR name. Why is that?

Because he wouldn't have had to spend so much time and energy on keeping the and dealing with the name Guns n Roses and on some law suits.

Agree but i was looking for a little more detail and how much the record industry changes impacted things.

[Doppeldab]

This interview with Canter has been a good introduction to the shows of Guns in Spain. They are coming, and Sebastian Bach is gonna be here too... Take a look to this:

http://genetikarockradio.com/rosebach/

I can´t wait!!

Edited September 27, 2010 by Doppeldab

[Guest Apollo]

Maybe this will finally shut up the axl-haters with the "he blackmailed" the rest of the band for the name comments.

[Martin Riggs]

Maybe this will finally shut up the axl-haters with the "he blackmailed" the rest of the band for the name comments.

Well he did. The only question is whether it was just implied or directly stated.

[Uncle Buck]

I don't even know when that happened. I don't remember if Axl ever told me anything about it and Slash never said anything about it until I saw it in his book. Slash felt that if he didn't sign it, that Axl wouldn't go on stage. That doesn't mean that Axl made that threat Slash and Duff just assumed that Axl wouldn't go on stage or record again if they didn't sign. So Axl didn't blackmail them. Also Slash and Duff may have not have had the best advice by their management regarding signing the name over, but if they didn't sign the name over the band would have broken up anyways in 1995/1996 when they didn't agree on who was going to be replacing Izzy and what songs they would record. No one would have the name GUN N' ROSES. If that was the case Axl would have had a lot more music out by now but, under a different name, but probably with the same guys that worked on Chinese Democracy and that record would have been out in 1998/1999 with new music from Axl every few years. There was a lot Axl had to deal with to keep GUNS N ' ROSES going when Slash and Duff left and it took many years to deal with. Plus some law suits. Slash would have done the same thing as he did anyways with out Axl, 2 Snakepit records 2 VR records and 1 solo record and still there would be no reunion. So who is lying? Maybe no one, maybe just a bunch of miscommunication and why does it matter anyway? They wanted different things so going their own way was the only way they could get what they wanted. It was sad for me to see that split but thats life, shit happens and we lick our wounds and move on.

Nice post, man.

I wish the guys (Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy) would have agreed to take 5 years off from one another (93-98) and then came back together to try and record at that time. It would have given Axl the opportunity to release his solo work (CD) and an opportunity for the band to cool their egos. It would have been nice having a real guns record right around 2000, especially when you consider that every other mainstream act sucked balls right around that time.

[STARABOSTES]

why?

the fact of the matter is that, in terms of the name - Guns N' Roses, Slash was a replacement for Traci Guns, and the name of the band was invented by Axl, so, normally that the right to use it is Axl's.

and in terms of music, as we know from Slash, they didn't see the same direction. And from Axl we know, that Slash wasn't interested in any effort to explore new musical directions and to improve his style, and, sadly, Slash had proven us, along the years, that his stuck somewhere back in time, and that his skills are quite limited, and that he needs someone like Axl and Izzy to get the best of him!

so, yes, all the effort, and the talk about "the reunion" is from Slash's part, because - hell! - on his own, he had became a player for every one with the dope! - he lacks respect for his talent or he really feels that singing with everybody that wants to sing with him is "rock n' roll" as this is his most common comment when it gets to why he left the band - "because I sign up for a rock n' roll band and not for and orchestra!" isn't it?!

so no, Axl and Slash don't need shit.

Axl's got great players who fit more than right in GNR style and attitude!

Slash needs to let go, and stop using each chance he got to speaks about old GNR, or he has a mental problem, that is living in the past, in that case, he need a specialist to help him!

I love the way he sings in GNR songs! but that's it. and the fact that he left Axl with his eyes in the sun, well, you did it once, and that's enough.

GNR reunion in "classic line up" will make Guns N' Roses a mediocre band, one of many, who get together to live on the past success, and to get tons of money!

what was once broken can not be fixed!

And you - the fans who wish for your joy days to come back, the days of childhood or teens, the fact that GNR will be again as they were back then, will definitely not bring back the years who have grown!

Nostalgia it's the mental manifestation of people who fear death, who have a hard time adjusting to grown up, to the way life is when you are an adult!

PS shouldn't this topic be else were?