Dazey Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) I just find it ridiculous and annoying that any athlete that does well now gets accused of cheating, instead of celebrating people's achievements we end up questioning them.It's not that she was that good it's that she seemed to make such a massive overnight improvement. I mean 5 seconds off your personal best is unheard of without something being dodgy. I think she did amazing but you can't blame people for raising the question. I mean she did the last 50 metres faster than the winner of the men's final. In fairness the reason the Chinese are better than everybody probably has something to do with them being plucked from kindergarten and training something like 350 days a year for hours on end. Communist countries seem to be good at that kinda shit. Edited July 31, 2012 by Dazey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I just find it ridiculous and annoying that any athlete that does well now gets accused of cheating, instead of celebrating people's achievements we end up questioning them.It's not that she was that good it's that she seemed to make such a massive overnight improvement. I mean 5 seconds off your personal best is unheard of without something being dodgy. I think she did amazing but you can't blame people for raising the question. I mean she did the last 50 metres faster than the winner of the men's final. Year of training though, and she has improved clearly. Totally agree that it's ridiculous, but Kiwi scullers took 12 seconds off the WR did they not? It's plausible. Fair play, she won't be as strong, but is significantly lighter - just seems odd in the last you would utterly turn it on, but the first three 'laps' were consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tater Totts Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I just find it ridiculous and annoying that any athlete that does well now gets accused of cheating, instead of celebrating people's achievements we end up questioning them.It's not that she was that good it's that she seemed to make such a massive overnight improvement. I mean 5 seconds off your personal best is unheard of without something being dodgy. I think she did amazing but you can't blame people for raising the question. I mean she did the last 50 metres faster than the winner of the men's final. In fairness the reason the Chinese are better than everybody probably has something to do with them being plucked from kindergarten and training something like 350 days a year for hours on end. Communist countries seem to be good at that kinda shit. But at the same time she is not the first swimmer to improve by a huge amount overnight, Stephanie Rice improved her PB by 6 second before the 2008 Olympics so it is not like it is unheard of.Also I think people are making too big a deal about the last 50, she swam it in like 28.9 and Lochte swam his in like 29.1 and when the total times were added up Lochte's was 23 seconds faster.I admit it is kind of suspicious but it is not the first time it has happened and doubt it will be the last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 In fairness the reason the Chinese are better than everybody probably has something to do with them being plucked from kindergarten and training something like 350 days a year for hours on end. Communist countries seem to be good at that kinda shit. Oh totally - look at the countries in the medal table in comparison to various others... intensive training for your entire life will make that sort of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Year of training though, and she has improved clearly. Totally agree that it's ridiculous, but Kiwi scullers took 12 seconds off the WR did they not? Yeah they did but that wasn't their record to beat so it's not really the same thing. Also what was the overall time cos if it was like 15 minutes and they took 12 seconds off it's kinda not as big of a deal as it might seem at first glance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuddMckagan Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 First medal for us in the games, team equestrian. Hopefully we'll get another one in the individuals in a few hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I admit it is kind of suspicious but it is not the first time it has happened and doubt it will be the last The Chinese have also been done for doping like every five minutes for the last ten years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tater Totts Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I admit it is kind of suspicious but it is not the first time it has happened and doubt it will be the last The Chinese have also been done for doping like every five minutes for the last ten years or so. I didn't mean just the Chinese mate I meant in general, there will always be occurrences when people improve like mad especially around Olympics time. Also might be cynical of me but I imagine if it was UK, US, AUS athletes the controversy would not be that prominent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I didn't mean just the Chinese mate I meant in general, there will always be occurrences when people improve like mad especially around Olympics time. Also might be cynical of me but I imagine if it was UK, US, AUS athletes the controversy would not be that prominent.Course not, cos we're not dirty thievin' Commie bastards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tater Totts Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I didn't mean just the Chinese mate I meant in general, there will always be occurrences when people improve like mad especially around Olympics time. Also might be cynical of me but I imagine if it was UK, US, AUS athletes the controversy would not be that prominent.Course not, cos we're not dirty thievin' Commie bastards! Someone on Sky Sports made a very good point, as soon as a Chinese girl sets a PB and wins gold she gets accused of cheating by an American coach, yet they have Phelps who has 14 golds and if anyone were to accuse him of cheating there would be widespread offense when anyone with 14 gold would be a prime target for an accusation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Yeah but Stephanie Rice is well fit and calls people persons, so shes automatically a winner in my books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I didn't mean just the Chinese mate I meant in general, there will always be occurrences when people improve like mad especially around Olympics time. Also might be cynical of me but I imagine if it was UK, US, AUS athletes the controversy would not be that prominent.Course not, cos we're not dirty thievin' Commie bastards! Someone on Sky Sports made a very good point, as soon as a Chinese girl sets a PB and wins gold she gets accused of cheating by an American coach, yet they have Phelps who has 14 golds and if anyone were to accuse him of cheating there would be widespread offense when anyone with 14 gold would be a prime target for an accusation.Can see why with those shoulders... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Can see why with those shoulders...Yeah but I'd wager he has to make less of an effort to cut through the water. It probably parts like the red sea to get away from his face! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Can see why with those shoulders...Yeah but I'd wager he has to make less of an effort to cut through the water. It probably parts like the red sea to get away from his face! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Can see why with those shoulders...Yeah but I'd wager he has to make less of an effort to cut through the water. It probably parts like the red sea to get away from his face! I didn't know Michael Phelps starred in My Left Foot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Can see why with those shoulders...Yeah but I'd wager he has to make less of an effort to cut through the water. It probably parts like the red sea to get away from his face! I didn't know Michael Phelps starred in My Left Foot? Ease up sunshine hes an alright looking bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Ease up sunshine hes an alright looking blokeFuckin' isn't like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Ease up sunshine hes an alright looking blokeFuckin' isn't like! Good body, but not my type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Ease up sunshine hes an alright looking blokeFuckin' isn't like! Dont use your negatives and slightly superior of the English language on me you wily Barmy Army troglodyte! Ease up sunshine hes an alright looking blokeFuckin' isn't like! Good body, but not my type.You a bender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Ease up sunshine hes an alright looking blokeFuckin' isn't like! Good body, but not my type.You a bender?By not my type, I referred to the fact that I don't like men. Thought that was pretty obvious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 By not my type, I referred to the fact that I don't like men. Thought that was pretty obvious Nope, you merely implied you don't like that type of men! Something you wanna tell us sweetheart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Ease up sunshine hes an alright looking blokeFuckin' isn't like! Good body, but not my type.You a bender?By not my type, I referred to the fact that I don't like men. Thought that was pretty obvious I am so confused right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Ease up sunshine hes an alright looking blokeFuckin' isn't like! Good body, but not my type.You a bender?By not my type, I referred to the fact that I don't like men. Thought that was pretty obvious I am so confused right now Us English do that By not my type, I referred to the fact that I don't like men. Thought that was pretty obvious Nope, you merely implied you don't like that type of men! Something you wanna tell us sweetheart? Jeez, some of you boys don't get humour Oh well, if not I'll just go after Nate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tater Totts Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 By not my type, I referred to the fact that I don't like men. Thought that was pretty obvious Nope, you merely implied you don't like that type of men! Something you wanna tell us sweetheart? Jeez, some of you boys don't get humour Oh well, if not I'll just go after Nate...Nate? I thought you liked your men with a bit of body hair! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyReedsexmachine Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesMen's volleyballBulgaria won agains the best team in the world POLAND 3-1 We suck at many sports but at volleyball - WE KICK ASSSSSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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