GNR 1996: tons of songs

[dalsh327]

They also have thousands of hours of unreleased video footage from the Classic line up. I bet Axl sits on that to the grave. I bet Adler, Duff, Slash, Izzy would release it tomorrow if they could get Axl's agreement, which won't get as Axl would claim that would affect the current bands chances.

This is the footage for the, what was then planned, documentary, right?

I almost want this more than the songs.

If what some have said is true - that during this period (UYI tours) Axl was in full-on Diva mode, and having all those lavish "theme" parties after shows that were eating through tour profits - parties which no one else in the band really wanted (so they say) - then I imagine this would be a big reason Axl doesn't want the footage to be released. It would just solidify the image of him that many people have. An image that, for most of the time Old Guns were together, is probably not that accurate.

Would be so interesting to see though.

Maybe there will be a reason to release that footage some day, but as long as he's focused on keeping this band together, he doesn't see a reason to have it out there. I don't think there's anything they have that makes it unreleaseable or cringe-worthy, I'm sure they were told to turn the cameras off at times.

[DeadSlash]

According to Marc Canter, most of those songs--about 50 or so--came from Izzy. Izzy rejoined the band in the studio and the UYI lineup was literally all together in the same room working in '96 for several weeks and Izzy either brought with him or crafted around 50 songs in that period. The rest were mostly Axl's material, with Slash providing some blues based rockers. They had recorded at least 7 songs by mid 1996.

But there are no vocals on the songs. A major factor in me not caring as much.

Edited August 26, 2012 by DeadSlash

[Crash Diet]

According to Marc Canter, most of those songs--about 50 or so--came from Izzy. Izzy rejoined the band in the studio and the UYI lineup was literally all together in the same room working in '96 for several weeks and Izzy either brought with him or crafted around 50 songs in that period. The rest were mostly Axl's material, with Slash providing some blues based rockers. They had recorded at least 7 songs by mid 1996.

Axl didn't have anything except Prostitute and TIL. Alice Cooper (through Bob Ezrin telling him) and Matt Sorum said Axl barely had one song together in 4 years. Slash, Duff, and Izzy had a lot of songs, and Axl rejected Izzy and Slash's songs at the time instead of just going forward and recording them. It was just a pissing contest that Slash and Axl were in, any way you look at it. Odds are Izzy wound up using those songs for himself or just put them on the shelf for another time.

Look at it this way, Stephen King writes a lot of books, but he doesn't publish everything he rights as soon as he's done with it. Some things sit in a file.

"We have been doing mostly Axl's material." (Slash chat, 10/16/96)

"The songs are really good, and I have a good vibe about it. I wouldn't want to go out and do a bad Guns N' Roses record." (Slash, Kerrang, 09/21/96)

"[slash] also enthuses about the new material Guns N' Roses have been writing. Apperently, the band members are currently trading tapes amongst themselves [before the actual recording sessions]. "It's amazing stuff," he says." (Slash, Kerrang, 09/21/96)

"Even if we don't sell any copy of the next album, I will be very proud of what we did. But I don't worry about it, I know that what we are doing right now is great. [...] We are working on rock songs that last only 4 minutes (laughs). We already did 7 songs and we will write 7 others. [...] It will be a single album with 10 or 12 songs." (Matt, 1996)

"Axl is rhythym guitar on his own songs for the time being." (Slash chat, 07/30/96)

"For the last couple of years, [Axl] started to go, 'Okay, I'm going to play guitar and actually learn what these notes are.' It's an innocent guitar, not unlike Izzy (Stradlin, ex-GN'R guitarist) was, but Axl's got a lot more musically than Izzy ever did.'" (Duff, Addicted to Noise, 08/30/96)

"Right now, he's playing guitar and it's like he plays that instrument for 10 years." (Matt, 1996)

"Guns N' Roses is back working together again, according to bassist Duff McKagan. [...] "We've been in for two weeks as a full band with Slash and Axl (Rose) and me ([...] Dizzy Reed is also back [...]), and we go from midnight to five in the morning," McKagan said from L.A." (Duff, Addicted to Noise, 08/30/96)

"It's fun and the energy is there," [Duff] said only hours before joining Axl Rose, Slash, Matt Sorum and rhythm guitarist Paul Huge at a GN'R rehearsal and writing session." (Duff, Metal Edge, 11/96)

"There will be a new Guns N' Roses 12 song minimum recording with three original "B" sides." (Axl, MTV fax, 10/30/96)

"The record will be all up-tempo rock songs ("No ballads," McKagan said firmly) and it will be just 12 songs, with a release planned for next spring." (Duff, Addicted to Noise, 08/30/96)

"It's gonna be an angry record, but that's what we were built on." (Kerrang, 09/21/96)

"This is not as sophisticated as Illusion, but not as wild as Appetite. It's in the middle. Maybe more groovy. Musically, we are all better. I never heard Duff play like that." (Matt, 1996)

Fuck, man, i want this sooo much

"The record will be all up-tempo rock songs ("No ballads," McKagan said firmly) and it will be just 12 songs, with a release planned for next spring." (Duff, Addicted to Noise, 08/30/96)

This is my cup of tea

[dalsh327]

Duff was very diplomatic in one of the interviews, he did say some of the songs were NIN-sounding and sounded enthusiastic about it. They're not going to bitch about the music they're working on until after the fact, so take what was said at the time with a grain of salt. Even when Slash was on Stern, he admitted to lying about the condition of VR at the time. Which is why some of Howard's best interviews are years later, and he plays back tapes when these guys were FUBAR.

For instance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt8AL2CRBqU

[Nosaj Thing]

Duff was very diplomatic in one of the interviews, he did say some of the songs were NIN-sounding and sounded enthusiastic about it. They're not going to bitch about the music they're working on until after the fact, so take what was said at the time with a grain of salt. Even when Slash was on Stern, he admitted to lying about the condition of VR at the time. Which is why some of Howard's best interviews are years later, and he plays back tapes when these guys were FUBAR.

For instance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt8AL2CRBqU