volcano62 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 IMO CD is one of the most intense albums of all time.Indeed.lolcanoVery creative fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 There's a clear evolution on the 3 GNR albums. From Appetite to Illusions and from Illusions to Democracy. On very aspects...I think on the musical aspect, it just got better and better.And I agree with you tr420. Some people expect Axl to release another Appetite For Destruction, they just seem to forgot that he's not 20 anymore, and have been to some deep shit since then. I'm so glad GNR didn't become the KISSish thing Slash wanted to.This is hilarious.What's so funny? It's a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Axl did not have huge hand in writing the music/lyrics of Appetite thru UYI. I mean - look at the quality and intensity of the music and lyrics from those albums. Chinese had none of that musical or lyrical intensity and creativity. (Sure, Axl has legal credit, but without West or Stradlin, he can't compose for shit. Those guys were Axl's Bernie Taupin.)Does downplaying Axl`s importance and contributions to the band make you a real Guns N`Roses fan ? no Axl no Guns N`Roses deal with it how did things work out with that bloke called Scott Weiland ?So how does downplaying Guns N Roses contributions to Guns N Roses albums make you a real Guns N Roses fan? Problem? Deal with it...etc etc...'Axl wrote em all!'WTF ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 There's a clear evolution on the 3 GNR albums. From Appetite to Illusions and from Illusions to Democracy. On very aspects...I think on the musical aspect, it just got better and better.And I agree with you tr420. Some people expect Axl to release another Appetite For Destruction, they just seem to forgot that he's not 20 anymore, and have been to some deep shit since then. I'm so glad GNR didn't become the KISSish thing Slash wanted to.This is hilarious.What's so funny? It's a good point.Show me the good point(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Roses Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 In my opinion SOD, TWAT, ITW & TIL lyrics are cheesy. Better has great lyrics, ChiDem and Shackler are good. I think the greatest thing Axl've written is Estranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) I think I like This I Love because it's basically Axl and a piano. The 2010 live performances are just awesome but I agree the lyrics are kinda cheesy. Edited February 1, 2013 by pi2loc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Axl did not have huge hand in writing the music/lyrics of Appetite thru UYI. I mean - look at the quality and intensity of the music and lyrics from those albums. Chinese had none of that musical or lyrical intensity and creativity. (Sure, Axl has legal credit, but without West or Stradlin, he can't compose for shit. Those guys were Axl's Bernie Taupin.)Perhaps the most idiotic logic I have ever heard. You cupcakes aren't even trying anymore, it's just "pick a topic and talk shit about Axl." Did you even read what you wrote? Do you realize how dumb it makes you sound? Oh wait, you don't care, you probably rubbed one out because you created this thread in the D&N section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeBaZ Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Axl did not have huge hand in writing the music/lyrics of Appetite thru UYI. I mean - look at the quality and intensity of the music and lyrics from those albums. Chinese had none of that musical or lyrical intensity and creativity. (Sure, Axl has legal credit, but without West or Stradlin, he can't compose for shit. Those guys were Axl's Bernie Taupin.) /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzydoezit Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 mediocre song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 TWAT isn't a bad song. It has some great parts. It has some regrettable parts. To say it ranks anywhere near the top songs from GNR 87-91 is lunacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Without Buckethead and Finck that song would be shit./thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Roses Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 At least Axl sang crazy with his great vocal range in twat, and yeah, bucket's solo is fucking awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 There's a clear evolution on the 3 GNR albums. From Appetite to Illusions and from Illusions to Democracy. On very aspects...I think on the musical aspect, it just got better and better.And I agree with you tr420. Some people expect Axl to release another Appetite For Destruction, they just seem to forgot that he's not 20 anymore, and have been to some deep shit since then. I'm so glad GNR didn't become the KISSish thing Slash wanted to.The evolution comment is a bit silly since it's clearly two different bands, but he's right about Slash wanting to tuen GNR into what every other classic rock band became: a repetitive machine churning out the exact aame album every 2 years. At least this way GNR has a damn good good songs:shit songs ratio that virtually no other band can claim. This is hilarious.What's so funny? It's a good point.Show me the good point(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 You really botched that post.How do you know what Slash wanted to turn GNR into? Because Axl claims this? And I have no idea what you're on about with the good song: shit songs ratio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Because he wanted Snakepit to be the next album. Shows that he had no interest in evolving the sound of GNR. (Or working as a team, but that's for another thread)As for the shit songs ratio, I'm basically saying that I'm glad gnr didn't become like acdc post-BIB releasing generic album after generic album with no memorable songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Because he wanted Snakepit to be the next album. Shows that he had no interest in evolving the sound of GNR. (Or working as a team, but that's for another thread)As for the shit songs ratio, I'm basically saying that I'm glad gnr didn't become like acdc post-BIB releasing generic album after generic album with no memorable songs.Again, is this just Axl's side of the story that you're repeating as fact? Neither you nor I know what GNR would have become if they hadn't broken up. And by the way, I wouldn't have wanted them to release generic album after generic album, but it would have been better than what has actually happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Because he wanted Snakepit to be the next album. Shows that he had no interest in evolving the sound of GNR. (Or working as a team, but that's for another thread)As for the shit songs ratio, I'm basically saying that I'm glad gnr didn't become like acdc post-BIB releasing generic album after generic album with no memorable songs.Again, is this just Axl's side of the story that you're repeating as fact? Neither you nor I know what GNR would have become if they hadn't broken up. And by the way, I wouldn't have wanted them to release generic album after generic album, but it would have been better than what has actually happened.If you prefer quantity over quality maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Because he wanted Snakepit to be the next album. Shows that he had no interest in evolving the sound of GNR. (Or working as a team, but that's for another thread)As for the shit songs ratio, I'm basically saying that I'm glad gnr didn't become like acdc post-BIB releasing generic album after generic album with no memorable songs.Again, is this just Axl's side of the story that you're repeating as fact? Neither you nor I know what GNR would have become if they hadn't broken up. And by the way, I wouldn't have wanted them to release generic album after generic album, but it would have been better than what has actually happened.If you prefer quantity over quality maybeI swear some of you guys are constitutively incapable of answering questions about your blind adherence to the Axl party line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.wa.T Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I agree with brainsaber. Axl did not have huge hand in writing the music/lyrics of Appetite thru UYI. I mean - look at the quality and intensity of the music and lyrics from those albums. Chinese had none of that musical or lyrical intensity and creativity. (Sure, Axl has legal credit, but without West or Stradlin, he can't compose for shit. Those guys were Axl's Bernie Taupin.)Perhaps the most idiotic logic I have ever heard. You cupcakes aren't even trying anymore, it's just "pick a topic and talk shit about Axl." Did you even read what you wrote? Do you realize how dumb it makes you sound? Oh wait, you don't care, you probably rubbed one out because you created this thread in the D&N section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eu4ic Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Songwriting doesnt come incredibly natural to him the way it does for Izzy. So instead, Axl tries to "cheat" by objectifying the hell of all the pieces/personnel and tinkers with them for years and treats songs like some Frankenstenian experiment until he thinks voila this is a good song. But a lot of times it's long-winded and sanitized. TWAT, Prostitute, and SOD come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Because he wanted Snakepit to be the next album. Shows that he had no interest in evolving the sound of GNR. (Or working as a team, but that's for another thread)As for the shit songs ratio, I'm basically saying that I'm glad gnr didn't become like acdc post-BIB releasing generic album after generic album with no memorable songs.Again, is this just Axl's side of the story that you're repeating as fact? Neither you nor I know what GNR would have become if they hadn't broken up. And by the way, I wouldn't have wanted them to release generic album after generic album, but it would have been better than what has actually happened.If you prefer quantity over quality maybeI swear some of you guys are constitutively incapable of answering questions about your blind adherence to the Axl party line.Knew you'd eventually fall back on that. To be honest, I don't really care for Axl or Slash at this point. The only things that set them apart for me are their respective fanbases here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Yesh right, Axl did n`t have hand in writing band`s material Dizzy Reed and Steven Adler wrote` em all fucking hoard of sheep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Because he wanted Snakepit to be the next album. Shows that he had no interest in evolving the sound of GNR. (Or working as a team, but that's for another thread)As for the shit songs ratio, I'm basically saying that I'm glad gnr didn't become like acdc post-BIB releasing generic album after generic album with no memorable songs.Again, is this just Axl's side of the story that you're repeating as fact? Neither you nor I know what GNR would have become if they hadn't broken up. And by the way, I wouldn't have wanted them to release generic album after generic album, but it would have been better than what has actually happened.If you prefer quantity over quality maybeI swear some of you guys are constitutively incapable of answering questions about your blind adherence to the Axl party line.Knew you'd eventually fall back on that. To be honest, I don't really care for Axl or Slash at this point. The only things that set them apart for me are their respective fanbases here.Knew I'd fall back on that? Are you serious? That's now three consecutive responses to my posts where you have neglected to explain why you think Axl's narrative of GNR history is accurate. I love Axl and Slash, but I'll admit their faults. I call bullshit on your claim of neutrality. And you're boring me by not actually participating in conversation when asked questions, so I'll see you around, bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 As long as Axl does lyrics and melodies you have a GNR record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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