Apollo Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Sorry but I disagree with you on some of your points. Axl did not steal the band name, if the band members individually signed over the name then that's it... they willingly gave it to him. That's not stealing!We have a Slash and Duff saying that they were told he wouldn't perform unless they signed the name over to him. We have Izzy confirming he would be getting a paycut down to 15% and Slash and Duff were to become employees of Axl as well due to them signing over the name. He made himself the boss of a band, ungreatfully after all the music the others had provided him with. Izzy, Duff and Slash were all so fed up with Axl's behaviour that they all quit. Now what does that tell you?Izzy did that?Wait....what? I thought Izzy was Axl's best friend? Surely Axl wouldn't have tried to screw Izzy like that. And surely Izzy wouldn't have walked out on his best friend.None of that really happened, did it? Somehow this all has to be Slash's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Top Ten rock is what I meant.Listen, you are going to have to explain to me how a bowling alley gig can make a profit once the overheads have been subtracted? The spin they applied to the gig: 'UCAP' while racketing up the ticket prices. Listen, this show was 2/3 full. I actually do think some of those last shows may have made a loss. It is interesting how the touring has stopped now! In 2010 GN'R were still an arena act in the states. In 2013, they would struggle to sell out a small theatre. So this 'loads of money and chicks' thing does not really fit the present circumstances. I think most chicks would run a mile from Axl right now (they would probably go with Ashba. He seems popular with the ladies for some odd reason). You can think all you want but common sense still dictates that nobody is doing anything for free and definitely not at a loss. I don't know what more I can do to try to help you think somewhat rationally. You keep your deluded belief that they're running around to lose money for whatever reason you have convinced yourself that they would do that, and I'll continue to sit here and wonder if paints chips really can have that type of effect on a person or if the trauma stems from something else. You have never heard of tours on which the arsehole has fallen out, disastrous tours (economically)? Even on the great Illusion tour, most of the money was apparently being pissed away on other factors (e.g. legal fees and Roman parties). True, nobody tours for free, but this is what happens when certain other mitigating factors happen (just like, nobody purposely sets out to make shit albums). Here, Team Brazil have made a right old mess by over saturating the exact same market and consequentially, the arsehole has truly fallen out. If Axl possessed a management that knew what they were doing, it would never have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 The tour would have been cancelled instead of successfully completed if that were anywhere close to being the case. Nothing has changed since UCAP, and that was definitely long enough ago to tell if you weren't being successful. Try and make some bit of sense here, would you? This is just getting more and more pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Well you have not explained to me how newgnr - a band with eight members, multiple leeches and a frontman who still likes the rock n' roll lifestyle - can make a profit from a half empty bowling alley? Maybe you should be directing these questions at Team Brazil: ''why play gigs when you make a loss?' Why indeed? I would ask them, 'why saturate the same market until that market completely collapses?' TB could not direct a porno in a brothel. You say it lacks logic'. You are correct, but then, nothing TB do seems very logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Well you have not explained to me how newgnr - a band with eight members, multiple leeches and a frontman who still likes the rock n' roll lifestyle - can make a profit from a half empty bowling alley? Maybe you should be directing these questions at Team Brazil: ''why play gigs when you make a loss?' Why indeed? I would ask them, 'why saturate the same market until that market completely collapses?' TB could not direct a porno in a brothel. You say it lacks logic'. You are correct, but then, nothing TB do seems very logical. They did small shows near cities they were doing festivals, and even if it was half-empty (Brooklyn Bowl had 600 capacity at 150 a head) it was a decent payday for what was a last minute announcement. A half empty place would've made 45K in tickets, and who knows how much they charge in booze there. Axl prob. walked out with 15-20K, and prob. made 3 times that a couple of nights later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Well you have not explained to me how newgnr - a band with eight members, multiple leeches and a frontman who still likes the rock n' roll lifestyle - can make a profit from a half empty bowling alley? Maybe you should be directing these questions at Team Brazil: ''why play gigs when you make a loss?' Why indeed? I would ask them, 'why saturate the same market until that market completely collapses?' TB could not direct a porno in a brothel. You say it lacks logic'. You are correct, but then, nothing TB do seems very logical.I've answered it many times and it's very simple to understand for most people. They wouldn't do any of that. It really is foolish to believe otherwise, yet here we are. Edited September 17, 2013 by Damn_Smooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohlovelyrita Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Well you have not explained to me how newgnr - a band with eight members, multiple leeches and a frontman who still likes the rock n' roll lifestyle - can make a profit from a half empty bowling alley? Maybe you should be directing these questions at Team Brazil: ''why play gigs when you make a loss?' Why indeed? I would ask them, 'why saturate the same market until that market completely collapses?' TB could not direct a porno in a brothel. You say it lacks logic'. You are correct, but then, nothing TB do seems very logical.I love Williamsberg and been to that bowling alley once and the club space is pretty large altho I didn't watch a band from there. I understand if the show sells out people will just listen from the outside. I'm sure GnR could sell it out in a snap and did. If not, the tickets were too expensive. Back when, I saw The Ramones in a space half the size and Patti Smith in a space half that size. Patti did the tiny gig around the time she sold out a huge theatre in L.A. which was amazing.The one thing that bands like GnR, Ozzy, B-52s and the like do wrong is charge to meet the band. Or if they are gonna charge at least bring in some of the fanclub (?) for free. It's embarrassingto lower fans to mere spectators. In the 70's the audience was on the level with the band. Any band member that totally skips their after party (unless he is sober) is not doing his duty. Don't forget what the experience is all about.On topic: Can a vegetarian love bacon? Yes but then they are fooling themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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