smokingarthur Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/22445 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 http://www.nme.com/news/guns-n-roses/22445That sucks. If Slash/Duff had a part in writing the old material, shouldn't they get part of the royalties?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcalldp Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Seen it but it's amazing how much media we're seeing of G' N R now compared to the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colt 1911 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 dude i dont think slash or duff helped write the lyrics. And the wouldn't be a SCOM riff like now if it weren't for axl when he saw that it was good and kept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAFC Nick Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 dude i dont think slash or duff helped write the lyrics. And the wouldn't be a SCOM riff like now if it weren't for axl when he saw that it was good and kept it.Err you're completely missing the point. If it wasn't for Slash there wouldn't be a SCOM riff. I don't think Axl could've played that or come up with an amazing intro like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffmckegean Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 (edited) I love the reference to a new record coming out later this year, now where have I heard that before................. Edited March 8, 2006 by duffmckegean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 The action is in response to a federal suit filed in 2005 by Slash and bassist Duff McKagan, who accused Rose of changing the publisher of the group's copyrighted songs without first conferring with them and then claiming the royalties.Who won this lawsuit?If this lawsuit is still going on why would Axl start a new counter lawsuit over the same thing?I hope someone can explain this to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcalldp Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 The action is in response to a federal suit filed in 2005 by Slash and bassist Duff McKagan, who accused Rose of changing the publisher of the group's copyrighted songs without first conferring with them and then claiming the royalties.Who won this lawsuit?If this lawsuit is still going on why would Axl start a new counter lawsuit over the same thing?I hope someone can explain this to me?I don't think the other law suit has to be finished for him to file this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I love the reference to a new record coming out later this year, now where have I heard that before................. I've been in enough bands to know that just because you write lyrics of a song, it doesn't mean you own the publishing/writing credits. Somebody has to write the music, and consequently get paid for it. Axl didn't write all the music to GnR's hit songs. The lyrics sure (and he should get paid for that), but not all the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcalldp Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Depends how the control of back catalog material is set up in Guns and Roses as a business. If Axl owns Guns he may also have or be wanting the right to control the use of the back catalog. This could happen with the other members still having writing credit and still getting money for any of these deals even if they have no say in what the deals are.another example is Pink Floyd. Floyd is set up as a business to run by four votes. Roger waters has no control as he's no longer in the band and does not own the Floyd name. The other three simply vote together which makes his one vot useless. He still gets royalties for the use of back material tho... It can be set up a lot of different way and that may be what they are fighting over at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I don't think the other law suit has to be finished for him to file this.But if Axl wins the original lawsuit there is no need for a counter lawsuit over the same issue. If he loses he can always appealI don't understand the logic behind the counter lawsuit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VICHY Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 HOMEFUCK, TRY TO UNDERSTAND!This is NOT about that Axl wants 100% rights to all songs.This is about that Duff, Slash and Matt has to much power. And they wont to use their power to sell old classics songs to shitty movies and junk. In that way they throw bad light at gnr today in a important time before CD.Guns n Roses is today Axl Rose`s brand. When Slash, Duff and Matt do this stuff they put his brand in a bad light that Axl cant control.IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvesterStallone Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 So you think Big Daddy wasn't a shitty movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukin Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 HOMEFUCK, TRY TO UNDERSTAND!This is NOT about that Axl wants 100% rights to all songs.This is about that Duff, Slash and Matt has to much power. And they wont to use their power to sell old classics songs to shitty movies and junk. In that way they throw bad light at gnr today in a important time before CD.Guns n Roses is today Axl Rose`s brand. When Slash, Duff and Matt do this stuff they put his brand in a bad light that Axl cant control.IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 HOMEFUCK, TRY TO UNDERSTAND!IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?Good point.Is it hard to understand that I eat veal DAILY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 So you think Big Daddy wasn't a shitty movie? Can't Hardly Wait was even worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobadog Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 dude i dont think slash or duff helped write the lyrics. And the wouldn't be a SCOM riff like now if it weren't for axl when he saw that it was good and kept it.Err you're completely missing the point. If it wasn't for Slash there wouldn't be a SCOM riff. I don't think Axl could've played that or come up with an amazing intro like that.sure i read once that the tune in SCOM was Izzy's warm up tune that Slash then decided to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 dude i dont think slash or duff helped write the lyrics. And the wouldn't be a SCOM riff like now if it weren't for axl when he saw that it was good and kept it.Err you're completely missing the point. If it wasn't for Slash there wouldn't be a SCOM riff. I don't think Axl could've played that or come up with an amazing intro like that.sure i read once that the tune in SCOM was Izzy's warm up tune that Slash then decided to use.To say that Axl, or anyone else came up with SCOM riff is complete and utter bullshit. Slash wrote it as a joke, and then presented it to the band. This is well documented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaddisonmoore Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 those allways make me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.b Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 HOMEFUCK, TRY TO UNDERSTAND!This is NOT about that Axl wants 100% rights to all songs.This is about that Duff, Slash and Matt has to much power. And they wont to use their power to sell old classics songs to shitty movies and junk. In that way they throw bad light at gnr today in a important time before CD.Guns n Roses is today Axl Rose`s brand. When Slash, Duff and Matt do this stuff they put his brand in a bad light that Axl cant control.IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?Agreed, could'nt have said it better, there intitled to their royalties, but there should be an agreement between all the people who wrote the song if it is to be put on a soundtrack or anything like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbone947 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 dude i dont think slash or duff helped write the lyrics. And the wouldn't be a SCOM riff like now if it weren't for axl when he saw that it was good and kept it.Err you're completely missing the point. If it wasn't for Slash there wouldn't be a SCOM riff. I don't think Axl could've played that or come up with an amazing intro like that.sure i read once that the tune in SCOM was Izzy's warm up tune that Slash then decided to use.To say that Axl, or anyone else came up with SCOM riff is complete and utter bullshit. Slash wrote it as a joke, and then presented it to the band. This is well documented.Yeah Slash wrote it as a joke adn axl liked it and wrote SCOM from the riff...or am i wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukin Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Yeah Slash wrote it as a joke adn axl liked it and wrote SCOM from the riff...or am i wrong...That is the official story, yes. But who really knows? I mean... a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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