Kill_YourIdols Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 (edited) i sometimes get anoyed by some comments people saying that it has been 12-13-15-16 years but i thought that axl had began to work on it like in 97 after slash left the band right? Edited December 29, 2006 by slash_360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pain_Train_99 Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 good post, ive always wondered that, does anyone out there know when it all started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasham1983 Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 well i think 95..as when slash presented him with the material of its 5 o' clock somewhere, he rejected it..means that he was already have plans in mind and was working on it......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill_YourIdols Posted December 29, 2006 Author Share Posted December 29, 2006 well i think 95..as when slash presented him with the material of its 5 o' clock somewhere, he rejected it..means that he was already have plans in mind and was working on it.........i thought that slash never showed axl the it's five o' clock somewhere material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfan001 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 well i think 95..as when slash presented him with the material of its 5 o' clock somewhere, he rejected it..means that he was already have plans in mind and was working on it.........i thought that slash never showed axl the it's five o' clock somewhere materialhe showed it.. but then it was rejected.. and slash released it with snakepitam i right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hejanne Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 The short answer... to long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eschman Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Isn't there talk of using some of the Unwanted Illusions material? I don't think that an album was being conceptualized before 97, but I think some of the material being used is older than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukinx Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 My guess is 1995 is when he planted first seeds for what was gonna become "Chinese Democracy". But I don't think it really started to ammount to any real songs until around 1997. But really, the only one who knows is Mr. Axl Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leigh-Rok! Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Artists like Axl will forever create music. Most of the songs that we've heard, either leaked of played live, are songs that were written well over 6/7 years ago IMO. Axl is keeping anything written after that completely out of the public eye in order to maintain the integrity of 'Chinese Democracy' or whatever he chooses to call the album when it's finally ready.It's correct that Axl continuously moves with the times, that's why he's re-recorded songs here and there.I'm confident of an early 07 release. The setting is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pain_Train_99 Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Artists like Axl will forever create music. Most of the songs that we've heard, either leaked of played live, are songs that were written well over 6/7 years ago IMO. Axl is keeping anything written after that completely out of the public eye in order to maintain the integrity of 'Chinese Democracy' or whatever he chooses to call the album when it's finally ready.It's correct that Axl continuously moves with the times, that's why he's re-recorded songs here and there.I'm confident of an early 07 release. The setting is perfect.Your right about the following the times, thats why everything is getting changed so much, cuz it was good, but now axl thinks it might sound out dated. I also wonder if he'll call the final album chinese democracy, you think he would, but i think it'd be cool to change it last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen8R Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 He's been working on it too fucking long. A8R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Dunno but I'm pretty sure it will end up in guinness world record book once it's released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Dunno but I'm pretty sure it will end up in guinness world record book once it's released.nah bat out of hell will beat it.i think he started in 95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pain cake Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 (edited) I think it's getting so long that theres no original members except axl left from the 2nd band Edited December 30, 2006 by pain cake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Dunno but I'm pretty sure it will end up in guinness world record book once it's released.nah bat out of hell will beat it.i think he started in 95How long did that album and take to record and was it worth the wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelica Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Artists like Axl will forever create music. Most of the songs that we've heard, either leaked of played live, are songs that were written well over 6/7 years ago IMO.Longer than that. The titles of most of the leaked songs started surfacing around 1996, I'd guess they were probably written between 93-95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leigh-Rok! Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Artists like Axl will forever create music. Most of the songs that we've heard, either leaked of played live, are songs that were written well over 6/7 years ago IMO.Longer than that. The titles of most of the leaked songs started surfacing around 1996, I'd guess they were probably written between 93-95.I didn't know for sure that's why I said "well over 6/7" and "IMO"... thanks for clearing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of A Gun Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 The only rational and definite answer to this...is TOO LONG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November_rain Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 well i think 95..as when slash presented him with the material of its 5 o' clock somewhere, he rejected it..means that he was already have plans in mind and was working on it.........i thought that slash never showed axl the it's five o' clock somewhere materialhe showed it.. but then it was rejected.. and slash released it with snakepitam i right? Yes,you´re right.And about how long...well, I have no idea since all I know is what I have read in internet and you know...I don´t care about the time but about the quality of the record. If the record is good I don´t care if I have to wait 100 years or 2 days,it´s the music that matters to me. Of course I would like to have CD in my hands right now but if the band/axl need some more time to arrange things their way or because they want to do some changes or whatever, I don´t mind about the wait.And as Leigh-Rock said, I´m also confident in early 2007 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Of The Roses Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 i bet you half of the members on here have actually waited since it started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 (edited) I think axl worked on the album since about 1997, almost 10 years on and off...I think he had an album finished and ready in 1999, but he felt it wasn't good enough...I also have a strange feeling this album was to be released many,many times but always something happened that didn't allow it to see the light of day...this time it's for real though... Edited December 30, 2006 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November_rain Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 i bet you half of the members on here have actually waited since it startedOh yes, we have nothing better to do than sit and wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leigh-Rok! Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 (edited) I think axl worked on the album since about 1997, almost 10 years on and off...I think he had an album finished and ready in 1999, but he felt it wasn't good enough...I also have a strange feeling this album was to be released many,many times but always something happened that didn't allow it to see the light of day...this time it's for real though...Yeah probably. What we DON'T know is the amount of material that Axl's got/been working on that's NOT Chinese Democracy. I think from about 99/00 the album existed, and in the 7 years since, apart from touring, Axl's been working on further album material and tinkering here and there with Chinese Democracy. With every new song created, and with every now technique discovered, Axl uses these new experiences to enhance Chinese Democracy. Unfortunately for us it just delays things somewhat.When the dust clears and the album drops, and like he said in 02, the work would already have been done for the follow-up to Chinese Democracy and he'll have half an eye on a 3rd new album in 2011/2012.I'm sure as hell here for the duration! B) Edited December 31, 2006 by Leigh-Rok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Of The Roses Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 didn't Brian Wilsons album take over 30 years, so Axl can't beat that but he can in costs for making the album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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